I found this pre work out supplement

**jolter604** · 08-10-2015, 06:51 PM

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It gives a good strength increase and makes me sweat my cheeks off. But it will make you crap your pants. I think it cleaned me out. First day I crapped myself doing wide grip pull-ups. I know the worst.....

**djgreen** · 08-10-2015, 08:55 PM

dam idk if I could take shitting myself talk about a buzz kill

**djgreen** · 08-10-2015, 08:56 PM

what are the ingredients?

**davidtheman100** · 08-10-2015, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

It gives a good strength increase and makes me sweat my cheeks off. But it will make you crap your pants. I think it cleaned me out. First day I crapped myself doing wide grip pull-ups. I know the worst.....

Doesn't sound promising lol

**jolter604** · 08-10-2015, 09:43 PM

The main two ingredients are d-aspartic acid and agmatine sulfate, then caffeine, no creatine. I sweat heavy on it

**jolter604** · 08-10-2015, 09:44 PM

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The main two ingredients are d-aspartic acid and agmatine sulfate, then caffeine, no creatine. I sweat heavy on it

**jolter604** · 08-10-2015, 09:44 PM

The strength gain is crazy, it was at vitamin shoppe.i would say it's like the original super pump 250

**bloodchoke** · 08-10-2015, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

It gives a good strength increase and makes me sweat my cheeks off. But it will make you crap your pants. I think it cleaned me out. First day I crapped myself doing wide grip pull-ups. I know the worst.....

Is that why you started calling your pull-ups "mud-slingers?"

**numbere** · 08-11-2015, 08:57 AM

Wow 450 mg caffeine! I was under the impression mr hyde had the highest caffeine matrix (415 mg) on the market.

**PrettyPlease?** · 08-11-2015, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

Wow 450 mg caffeine! I was under the impression mr hyde had the highest caffeine matrix (415 mg) on the market.

There is a preworkout from Metabolic Nutrition called E.S.P with 500mg

**numbere** · 08-11-2015, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by PrettyPlease?

There is a preworkout from Metabolic Nutrition called E.S.P with 500mg

Yes, but that's 500 mg per 10 g of E.S.P.

Ten grams of mr hyde has 559 mg of caffeine.

Ten grams of pep test will have 563 mg of caffeine.

**PrettyPlease?** · 08-11-2015, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

Yes, but that's 500 mg per 10 g of E.S.P.

Ten grams of mr hyde has 559 mg of caffeine.

Ten grams of pep test will have 563 mg of caffeine.

My apologies. Not sure I follow the logic for breaking it down that way as opposed to per serving?

**kelkel** · 08-11-2015, 01:37 PM

Whatever happened to a couple cups of coffee?

**PrettyPlease?** · 08-11-2015, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Whatever happened to a couple cups of coffee?

Or a few scoops of ultimate orange

**numbere** · 08-11-2015, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by PrettyPlease?

My apologies. Not sure I follow the logic for breaking it down that way as opposed to per serving?

Gram for gram the other two supplements contain more caffeine.

E.S.P has three different serving sizes that are based on mass (3.3 g, 6.6 g, and 10 g).

I think it's a bit silly to say one supplement has more caffeine just because the suggested serving is larger.

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**Ashop** · 08-18-2015, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

It gives a good strength increase and makes me sweat my cheeks off. But it will make you crap your pants. I think it cleaned me out. First day I crapped myself doing wide grip pull-ups. I know the worst.....

I used a few jugs of Gaspari Superpump (SUPERDUMP) 250 and it did the same thing to me.