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11-29-2007, 03:33 PM #1Senior Member
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11-29-2007, 04:04 PM #2Member
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that pics looks weird,, i have a serious doubt it is not photoshop'd
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11-29-2007, 04:09 PM #3
repost
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11-29-2007, 04:16 PM #4
repost and that dog needs to do calves more
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11-29-2007, 04:19 PM #5
old.
This dog was on the news like half a year ago.
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11-29-2007, 05:04 PM #6
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That picture is just as real as this one:
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11-29-2007, 05:46 PM #8Anabolic Member
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That head on that dogs body looks retarded. Looks like a puppy lab's head on a bulldogs body.
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11-30-2007, 01:18 AM #9
That dog is actually real... It's a Whippet, it's about twice the size of an average one due to mytostatin blockage.
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11-30-2007, 09:10 AM #10Senior Member
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11-30-2007, 03:56 PM #11
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12-01-2007, 06:49 AM #12
That's not real. His legs would break if he tried to run.
It's not a whippet - their skeletal structure is much finer.
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12-01-2007, 07:37 AM #13
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12-01-2007, 07:39 AM #14
Last edited by MeanMachine2000; 12-01-2007 at 07:48 AM.
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12-01-2007, 07:47 AM #15
Oh...and she wasn't a test subject with myostatin inhibitor she was born with a mutation in the myostatin gene
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12-01-2007, 10:26 AM #16
I dont see the big deal in all this stuff. Once every month for about the past 3 years someone posts up pics of an animal with a myostatin mutation and then everyone wacks off about it and wonders when we will get a drug to do the same for us.
And everytime I tell them its NOT gonna happen. Our bodies dont react like animals its that simple. We would never build muscle like that, we just arent meant to. And like I have said countless times if this whole myostatin thing is so great and we are gonna have people walking around like monsters than why hasnt it happened yet?
HGH inhibits myostatin by up to 40% already, and we have these same people usings tons of GH, tons of steroids , the best diets in the world and training with the best trainers in the world spending tens of thousands of dollars a year on this and dont get any bigger than Ronnie. Yet people think anyone could take a myostatin blocker and be just the biggest freak ever seen. Like I said...not gonna happen.
But anyways, see you guys again next month when we get another repeat lol.
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12-01-2007, 04:22 PM #17
Not true.
In 2004, a German boy was diagnosed with a mutation in both copies of the myostatin-producing gene, making him considerably stronger than his peers. His mother, a former sprinter, has a mutation in one copy of the gene. More recently, an American boy born 2005 was diagnosed with the same condition.
(wikipedia)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5278028/
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12-01-2007, 09:55 PM #18
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12-01-2007, 10:01 PM #19I dont see the big deal in all this stuff. Once every month for about the past 3 years someone posts up pics of an animal with a myostatin mutation and then everyone wacks off about it and wonders when we will get a drug to do the same for us.
And everytime I tell them its NOT gonna happen. Our bodies dont react like animals its that simple. We would never build muscle like that, we just arent meant to.
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12-02-2007, 06:12 AM #20
The x-men are coming, hurrah!
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12-02-2007, 07:39 AM #21New Member
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12-02-2007, 12:13 PM #22
It hasn't happened yet because it is a relatively new discovery. Actually, in order for you to "inhibit" your Myostatin gene, it would require gene therapy. This would have to be administered via a retrovirus using rDNA. You would have to essentially infect yourself with a virus that would "turn off" the myostatin gene in all of your cells. Remember, each cell (that undergoes Mitosis) has an exact genetic copy of every other cell in your body. So, in order to turn off the gene, you would have to infect every cell, or a large majority of the cells with the retrovirus that would 'turn off' that gene. Then, after a few months if those cells underwent Mitosis enough times all of your cells would now be "Myostatin blocked."
In regards to the second comment about being the biggest freak anyones ever seen. Well, this is also very different. GH, Steroids, Diet, Training, and etc, are all limited within the parameters of your genetics. Yes, you can use any steroidal or peptide compound available, have the best diet, and the best training, and chances are the majority of people will never attain the kind of physiques we see on stage at Olympia. However, Myostatin will level the playing field so to speak. You are essentially, changing your genetic makeup. Now, god given ability and capability will no longer be a limit. Anyone who has enough money, and so desires to change their genetic makeup will be able to do so (eventually, this is all very new technology and some is only theory at this time). So yes, if the technology advances to a point that an effective Myostatin gene therapy is developed, it will allow people who would have otherwise average or sub-par physiques to attain the kind of physiques we see on stage. The Myostatin gene is what LIMITS the amount of muscle a person is able to put on their frame. Chances are, that the "genetic freaks" we see on stage are not as heavily affected by this limiting mechanism which is written into our genes. Now, although this gene will have no effect on the shape or symmetry of muscles, it will allow more 'average' people to attain the MASS results of those with much more 'above average' genetics.
I am going to guess that a lot of people who are genetically gifted, are going to view advances such as these very negatively. They most likely want people to be "below" them and dont want people to be able to achieve the kind of physiques that they have, even if the other person diets&trains just as hard as them, they like the fact they are seperated by god given or genetic ability. This is not unusual, most people are afraid of change, and even more want to feel "better" than others, based on a number of parameters, but genetics is just as good as any.
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12-02-2007, 11:53 PM #23
The whole point of what I was saying is that if this supposed drug is gonna be so great why dont we see anything amazing with HGH which ALREADY inhibits myostatin by up to 40%.
I know exactly how gene inhibition works and about DNA, rDNA, tRNA, mitosis, apoptosis etc etc and have written several papers on DNA sequencing. This isnt something new to me or something I need explained. My entire post was the fact that I just think people overestimate the power of a potential myostatin blocker; as I explained through extrapolation of hGH results.
Same as someone new to AAS thinks its gonna make them super huge, then...wow I dont look anything like a pro. Then people who mildly use AAS thinking ok its GH time im gonna be pro material, then...wow I dont look anything like a pro. Its a personal opinion and I just think if this technology is ever introduced people will be disappointed.
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12-03-2007, 04:22 PM #24
I wasn't making any assumptions about your knowledge on the subject. Sorry if I somehow offended you bro. I was really writing a general post on the subject directed to all members, not just yourself. Some of it is my opinion as well. It's good for us to speculate and have these debates, they are very enlightening. Time will tell with this I guess, we'll see what happens with the technology.
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i am a chem major and this was a topic in one of my classes one day, upon seeing this dog i did a little research of my own about the "bully" whippet.
these dogs are often put down after they are born and usually don't have quite the size and muscular appearance as wendy. simply wendy is the extreme of what any "bully" whippet can look like
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12-03-2007, 04:32 PM #26Member
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12-03-2007, 09:20 PM #27
Interesting. I wonder what the condition is of the German toddler who had the genetic disorder. The article is a few years old, so I would think there would be more profound development. I would think this type of disorder would cause organs, particularly the heart to grow to large. Anybody know?
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12-03-2007, 09:23 PM #28Member
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12-04-2007, 03:47 AM #29
------------question already answered---------------------
Last edited by qualityclrk1; 12-04-2007 at 05:27 AM.
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that is freaking awesome, i mean its a whippet, yet it looks like something straight out of the depths of hell.
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