Slain Teacher Colleen Ritzer Tweeted Her Students Tips, Jokes and Encouragement

**austinite** · 10-24-2013, 06:34 AM

Slain Teacher Colleen Ritzer Tweeted Her Students Tips, Jokes and Encouragement - ABC News

**jimmyinkedup** · 10-24-2013, 07:27 AM

Horrible tragedy. So dedicated to helping the very person that ends up killing her. Makes me sick.

**MuscleInk** · 10-24-2013, 10:13 AM

"The world is a crazy place". So true. What a tragic loss for someone who so clearly inspired and motivated our youth.

BG · 10-24-2013, 02:13 PM

Very sad. She just looks positive, those are special people.

**AlphaMike** · 10-24-2013, 02:25 PM

I usually don't think twice about these types of violent occurrences in the US as I've given up rationalizing human psychotic behavior, this however was just senseless. Pure evil that kid.

**bass** · 10-24-2013, 02:33 PM

we are truly the culture of death. we kill the most innocent in the womb and we call it choice, we kill the elderly and we call it compassion. we have devalued life so much that makes kids like this thug take an innocent life so easily. this thug is simply the consequence of us redefining morals "I got to be free I got to be me" anything goes, relativism. and the worst is yet to come. very sad story indeed.

**lovbyts** · 10-24-2013, 02:38 PM

I think it goes hand in hand with the entitlement generation because they think everything is about them and everybody owes them and no one else matters including another person's life

**MuscleInk** · 10-24-2013, 03:08 PM

Just watched the accompanying video. 14 year old kid? A box cutter? Put her in a recycling bin and dumped her in a wooded area? Then went to watch a movie after?

Bass is right, the value of life has been lost on so many people.

**Rwy** · 10-24-2013, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by bass

we are truly the culture of death. we kill the most innocent in the womb and we call it choice, we kill the elderly and we call it compassion. we have devalued life so much that makes kids like this thug take an innocent life so easily. this thug is simply the consequence of us redefining morals "I got to be free I got to be me" anything goes, relativism. and the worst is yet to come. very sad story indeed.

This kid obviously has mental health issues along with bad parenting. Sounds like she is a single mother. This situation would have been a lot better if he was aborted. Innocent women is alive and no drain on the tax payers paying for him in jail for the rest of his life.

**MuscleInk** · 10-24-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rwy

This kid obviously has mental health issues along with bad parenting. Sounds like she is a single mother. This situation would have been a lot better if he was aborted. Innocent women is alive and no drain on the tax payers paying for him in jail for the rest of his life.

Does MA have the death penalty? I'm not advocating it for this kid, just curious. He's being tried as an adult, but given his young age, they'll likely try to rehabilitate him. That's a double edge sword because even if they do turn this kid around, it won't bring back the teacher.

**AlphaMike** · 10-24-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rwy

This kid obviously has mental health issues along with bad parenting. Sounds like she is a single mother. This situation would have been a lot better if he was aborted. Innocent women is alive and no drain on the tax payers paying for him in jail for the rest of his life.

Easy to say that in hindsight. Where do you draw the line with abortion though? At what point in development does it become a person? Surely you can't say "at birth" because aborting a near fully developed unborn child at 8-9 months is pushing the limits of civility.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-24-2013, 03:34 PM

this is truly a senseless tragedy...I watched the video and read all the tweets she did for her students and stuff and im blown away a what an amazing woman she was...I weep for the future...

**MuscleInk** · 10-24-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

this is truly a senseless tragedy...I watched the video and read all the tweets she did for her students and stuff and im blown away a what an amazing woman she was...I weep for the future...

Yes, she was someone who genuinely enjoyed teaching kids and encouraging success all the while making learning fun. Not many teachers like her.

**bass** · 10-24-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rwy

This kid obviously has mental health issues along with bad parenting. Sounds like she is a single mother. This situation would have been a lot better if he was aborted. Innocent women is alive and no drain on the tax payers paying for him in jail for the rest of his life.

so you're saying we are who we are genetically?! I bet you if the kid had better upbringing this would have never happened. you can't really predict someone's personality in the womb!

**Rwy** · 10-24-2013, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMike

Easy to say that in hindsight. Where do you draw the line with abortion though? At what point in development does it become a person? Surely you can't say "at birth" because aborting a near fully developed unborn child at 8-9 months is pushing the limits of civility.

I am not trying to get into where do you draw the line. Obviously not 8-9 months I am not a ****ing monster.

My point is bad parenting is turning their own children into threats to other people. This girl that died sounded like an amazing person. Amazing people just dont happen. They are raised that way by good parents. Taken away by someone who should have practiced safe sex and never had a child to begin with. If you look at all of these school shootings, and all of these kids killing one another I am sure most of them come from broken homes. I am just playing devils advocate in saying some of these kids would have been better off aborted so the innocent can live.

**bass** · 10-24-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rwy

I am not trying to get into where do you draw the line. Obviously not 8-9 months I am not a ****ing monster.

My point is bad parenting is turning their own children into threats to other people. This girl that died sounded like an amazing person. Amazing people just dont happen. They are raised that way by good parents. Taken away by someone who should have practiced safe sex and never had a child to begin with. If you look at all of these school shootings, and all of these kids killing one another I am sure most of them come from broken homes. I am just playing devils advocate in saying some of these kids would have been better off aborted so the innocent can live.

I see your point. but I have seem bad kids come out of good homes, and vice versa, its not just the parents who have influence on their children but the whole society.

**Rwy** · 10-24-2013, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by bass

so you're saying we are who we are genetically?! I bet you if the kid had better upbringing this would have never happened. you can't really predict someone's personality in the womb!

Sure mental health is genetic. Right now we cannot tell if this is mental health or bad parenting but I agree with you about things being different with a better up bringing.

I know this is an awful way to think but its a reality. A lot of kids are better of being aborted then being raised by bad parents or one parent. Sure in some cases the single parent makes it happen but its probably rare. You were raised well which is why you place such value on humanity. These kids arent and thats why they can kill someone and watch a movie. Thats not entitlement or thinking they can get away with something. That is a very ****ed up individual.

Its so sad to take a like but the reality is nowadays bad parents are turning their kids into threats. Look at all of these school shootings and killings. Its a monthly thing. No school or child or safe from this. Everyone legitmately has to worry and that really ****ing sucks.

**jasc** · 10-24-2013, 07:23 PM

Mental health or bad parenting is really a moot point in this case. An animal such as him has no place in society. He had no regard for her life and after he murdered her he went off and carried on his day.

He should be tortured and killed in a painful manor.

Maybe if we made an example out of p.o.s's like this others would think twice.

**Bert** · 10-24-2013, 07:26 PM

There are some sick people out there.

**Flagg** · 10-25-2013, 03:07 AM

This happens more than people think.

Recently in the UK a 14 year old was recently arrested for sexually assaulting 6 women on a university campus in Manchester. Another 14 year old was arrested recently for killing an old aged pensioner.

I think the internet in many ways has ushered in a new era of apathetic behaviour.

Edit: it would be easier to accept this kid having mental issues but I wouldn't be surprised if there was nothing wrong with him beyond having a completely lacking morale center.

**Euroholic** · 10-25-2013, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Flagg

This happens more than people think.

Recently in the UK a 14 year old was recently arrested for sexually assaulting 6 women on a university campus in Manchester. Another 14 year old was arrested recently for killing an old aged pensioner.

I think the internet in many ways has ushered in a new era of apathetic behaviour.

Edit: it would be easier to accept this kid having mental issues but I wouldn't be surprised if there was nothing wrong with him beyond having a completely lacking morale center.

Ive offten thought about the internet being the root of evil. To much easy access to a unlimited amount of info and instant gradafaction have made people lose sense of reality and impatient

**Gaspari1255** · 10-25-2013, 07:42 AM

Lacking fear from their father or non existent father = kids do whatever the hell they want without repercussions.

**jasc** · 10-25-2013, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bronzer

Lacking fear from their father or non existent father = kids do whatever the hell they want without repercussions.

100% agree

Our country has become overrun by pvssies and parents can't even punish their kids anymore without fear of legal reprocussions.

The local news did a big story the other day telling parents not to yell at their kids for wrongdoing anymore because some dumbass study stated that it causes mental damage.

I mean, WTF... First you can't spank your kids, now you can't even yell at them. No wonder these little hooligans are soo out of control.

**austinite** · 10-25-2013, 08:12 AM

There are far more kids with no fathers that do not commit crimes. (Not even remotely close to being comparable). Including me.

So that eliminates the "No father" theory.

**Gaspari1255** · 10-25-2013, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

There are far more kids with no fathers that do not commit crimes. (Not even remotely close to being comparable). Including me.

So that eliminates the "No father" theory.

Well, look at the likeness of a fatherless kid committing a crime vs. the likeness of a kid with two parents involved committing a crime...

Facts on Fatherless Kids

There are sources for every "fact" stated on that page. Couldn't tell you how reliable they are though.

The "no father" theory is equivalent to a "push-over" father in this situation...A father who is scared to lay a hand on his son for acting out of line, scared to reprimand him at an early age when doing something that he shouldn't be doing. Intimidation makes children cooperate more than love or respect does..

This reminds me of the other thread recently where the middle school aged Florida girl jumped off of a building because she was being bullied. One of the girls bullying her put a facebook status up saying something along the lines of: "I'm glad she's dead. I hated that bitch" and the parents defended her by saying "I think her page was hacked. She wouldn't do that"...I would have literally beat my daughter over the head with the keyboard for posting something like that....I guess I grew up in a different generation.

**bass** · 10-25-2013, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

There are far more kids with no fathers that do not commit crimes. (Not even remotely close to being comparable). Including me.

So that eliminates the "No father" theory.

I agree with this, fear some times has the opposite effect, it creates anger then rage. respect is what we have lost, respect for the parents and elders. also the sense of shame is completely gone.

**bass** · 10-25-2013, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Bronzer

Well, look at the likeness of a fatherless kid committing a crime vs. the likeness of a kid with two parents involved committing a crime...

Facts on Fatherless Kids

There are sources for every "fact" stated on that page. Couldn't tell you how reliable they are though.

The "no father" theory is equivalent to a "push-over" father in this situation...A father who is scared to lay a hand on his son for acting out of line, scared to reprimand him at an early age when doing something that he shouldn't be doing. Intimidation makes children cooperate more than love or respect does..

This reminds me of the other thread recently where the middle school aged Florida girl jumped off of a building because she was being bullied. One of the girls bullying her put a facebook status up saying something along the lines of: "I'm glad she's dead. I hated that bitch" and the parents defended her by saying "I think her page was hacked. She wouldn't do that"...I would have literally beat my daughter over the head with the keyboard for posting something like that....I guess I grew up in a different generation.

Bronz, as much as I want to agree, you are comparing apples to oranges, fatherless child has a different outlook on life vs. a child with a deadbeat father.