Gyno?

**antonio999** · 04-04-2004, 06:44 PM

Hey guys. I'm lookin for some help... i'm posting my background here but maybe some of you will be able to tell whether or not this is gyno just from the pics

Underneath the aereolas and above my pectorals are strings of hard lumps from the size of corn cernels to raisins to walnus that aren't soft like fat.

- tony

THESE PICTURES ARE WHILE TALKING NOLV.

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I used to weigh 220... through dieting and exercise i lost weight over a two year period and now weigh 170. i'm 24 years old. i don't work out often, have never taken steroids or other supplements. i have a high natural testosterone level (tested), but don't know what my estrogen level is. i've been taking nolvadex for a while, and it makes my aereolas a bit smaller, but overall there is still a string of bubble-like oval bumps from my armpit to my nipples, under which there are lumps the size of walnuts.
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**antonio999** · 04-04-2004, 08:00 PM

What does that mean? Why are my lymph nodes any different than everyone else's? Why did this set in during puberty? And how do I get it back to normal?

thanks buddy
- tony

**BWhitaker** · 04-04-2004, 08:01 PM

a doc is still your best bet to get the proper diagnosis

**antonio999** · 04-06-2004, 12:33 PM

So I went to visit a doctor today and he said that there are concentrated buildups of fat on my chest and that it's not gyno? Does this seem right to you? He also didn't think that they were swollen lymph nodes since he felt a string of moveable rainsin-like bubbles from the top of my armpit instead of from underneath it.

thanks again for all your help.

- tony

**beefydragon** · 04-06-2004, 01:06 PM

if it's concentrated fat lumps built up... it can be from gyno or also from baby fat... the only way is to have surgery to remove it permanently...

**floyd_turbo** · 04-06-2004, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by animal-inside

you got gyno....

i also agree.. looks like gyno to me. did you have this before you started cycling??

**floyd_turbo** · 04-06-2004, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by antonio999

So I went to visit a doctor today and he said that there are concentrated buildups of fat on my chest and that it's not gyno? Does this seem right to you? He also didn't think that they were swollen lymph nodes since he felt a string of moveable rainsin-like bubbles from the top of my armpit instead of from underneath it.

thanks again for all your help.

- tony

missed this post sorry... but i once again ask did you have these lumps prior to cycling and did you tell your doctor your on a/s?

**floyd_turbo** · 04-06-2004, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by animal-inside

floyd.. do nipples like those look familar?????????

haha funny man... fuker

... no, i was lucky

**antonio999** · 04-06-2004, 04:53 PM

Floyd,

I've never done a cycle, but I have a naturally high testosterone level.

Total testosterone level is 989 (high normal is 827)
Free testosterone level is 31.8 (high normal is 28.2)

Can this cause an excess buildup of estrogen like steroids would, causing gyno without them? I went to a second doctor and he, too, said it wasn't gyno. It really looks and feels like it to me, though. I don't know what to do to make this go away. I have had it since the beginning of puberty, I think.

thanks guys.

- tony

**floyd_turbo** · 04-06-2004, 05:08 PM

an excess buildup of testosterone can convert to estrogen to cause gyno.

i can't say though that i have had any experience or known anyone whose had a string of bubble-like oval bumps from their armpit to nipple. that almost sounds like something that has to do with the lymphatic system which is correlated with the immune system (i.e. fights infections or cancers) lymph nodes act as filters i believe and remove invading organisms/abnormal cells. whether or not the string is corelated to your nipple i can't say... but it does look like gyno IMO.. all i can suggest is continue with nolvadex ... try 60mgs ED and see if any changes occur... if not, do lots of chest work and cardio, diet down hard and see if they reduce in size.. also, worst case scenario surgery.. a couple bro's on the board have undergone such surgery and probably could help you more so then me... best of luck bro

ft

**antonio999** · 04-06-2004, 05:10 PM

thanks buddy

**ripped525** · 06-18-2004, 08:58 PM

alot of people argue that its not the conversion of estrogen from testosterone that causes gyno but progestorone that causes it, thats why theres a lot of talk saying anti E's do nothing, for me i had puffy nipples since puberty only me getting taller has strech them out

**BIGB** · 06-18-2004, 11:26 PM

i got puffy ass nipples to but when i diet they go away

**chicamahomico** · 06-19-2004, 12:01 AM

You got some nipple fat for sure. Have a plastic surgeon check and see if there is much tissue as well. I would guess most all of that is fatty tissue and you could have it lipoed out for a couple of grand.

**ripped525** · 06-19-2004, 01:56 PM

Make sure he takes out the gland too, this will prevent you from every getting gyno again, no matter what u do/use

**craneboy** · 06-19-2004, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by antonio999

So I went to visit a doctor today and he said that there are concentrated buildups of fat on my chest and that it's not gyno? Does this seem right to you? He also didn't think that they were swollen lymph nodes since he felt a string of moveable rainsin-like bubbles from the top of my armpit instead of from underneath it.

thanks again for all your help.

- tony

what did the doc say was the next step? it kinda sounds like he was not sure what it was, maybe you should ask to see a specialist. good luck bro and keep everyone here updated