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    Cycle Layout Need Advice

    this cycle will be for my buddy which one is better goals burn fat gain lean mass about 15lbs keepable gains

    weeks 1-4 prop 120mg eod (i know ed but my boy wont do ed shots)
    weeks 1-10 test e 400mg split dose
    weeks 8-14 winni 50mg ed
    weeks 11-14 prop 120mg eod
    weeks 8,10,12,14,16,18 clen dose varies
    weeks 1-14 letro .5 ed
    weeks 15-19 nolva 20mg ed
    weeks 15-18 clomid 100mg ed

    or this cycle
    weeks 1-4 prop 120mg eod (i know ed but my boy wont do ed shots)
    weeks 1-10 test e 400mg split dose
    weeks 1-10 tren e 300mg split dose
    weeks 8-14 winni 50mg ed
    weeks 11-14 prop 120mg eod
    weeks 8,10,12,14,16,18 clen dose varies
    weeks 1-14 letro .5 ed
    weeks 15-19 nolva 20mg ed
    weeks 15-18 clomid 100mg ed

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    u cant gain mass and lose fat. may be on igf or gh but not with steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    u cant gain mass and lose fat. may be on igf or gh but not with steroids.
    so i guess tren is just a myth

    anyone have comments on these cycles

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    Why don't any of your buddies join this board? You must have alot of "friends that want to juice". Like it has been stated before, I guess you should research and keep asking until you feel you have the best cycle layed out for yourself.

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    now that ppl. know that i take they want me to tell what to take so i plan a cycle then post for some feedback

    so does anyone have any advice on these cycles

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    Ok, if he is doing eod shots anyway, prop/tren acetate/winny.
    1-10 prop 150 eod
    1-8 tren/fina acetate 75mg eod
    5-10 winny 100mg eod injected or 50mg ed drank
    letro looks fine cut the nolva in half(10mgs)
    pct is fine weeks 11-13 or 14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    Ok, if he is doing eod shots anyway, prop/tren acetate/winny.
    1-10 prop 150 eod
    1-8 tren/fina acetate 75mg eod
    5-10 winny 100mg eod injected or 50mg ed drank
    letro looks fine cut the nolva in half(10mgs)
    pct is fine weeks 11-13 or 14
    ok this is not my layout bro

    can anyone comment on the cycle layout i posted pleezzzzzzzzzzzze!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
    ok this is not my layout bro

    can anyone comment on the cycle layout i posted pleezzzzzzzzzzzze!
    It stinks, there I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    u cant gain mass and lose fat. may be on igf or gh but not with steroids.
    I've lost fat and put on lean mass with just deca and test cyp.

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    Juice... that's alot of gear and both are very complex cycles... i think both are good, but have to wonder about the guys cycle history... maybe something more simple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    I've lost fat and put on lean mass with just deca and test cyp.
    yeah what he said made no sense to me
    he might have meant u cant cut and put on mass at the same time

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    ok seriously i neeed comments on these 2 cycles thanks bros

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    If he wont shoot ed... then run tren and test enanthate for 12 weeks. then end with prop like you have. Also start HCG at week 6 or so

    Try to shoot the prop every 36 hours then.... makes the levels better than EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
    If he wont shoot ed... then run tren and test enanthate for 12 weeks. then end with prop like you have. Also start HCG at week 6 or so
    what about a jumpstart till the test kicks in thats what the first 4 weeks of prop were for (no dbol or drol)and he will use tren enanthate not acetate

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    so between these 2 cycles which one would be more efective if ur goals are to lose fat and keep about 15lbs of lean mass
    everything will be in check diet training etc..

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    What are these guys "supposed" cycle history? I wouldnt recommend tren for a noob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stout1
    What are these guys "supposed" cycle history? I wouldnt recommend tren for a noob.
    no these are the deca /dbol , dbol/winni cycle type of guys have done roids for years but never the right way so they see me get all buff and keep my gains long term they want to know how i did it and how they can do the same so they are not noobs just not cycle smart

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    why does everyone say its really juice asking and there is no friend? why lie about it?

    THey can jump with prop if they want too.... just I wouldnt waste my time unless I was shooting ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
    why does everyone say its really juice asking and there is no friend? why lie about it?

    THey can jump with prop if they want too.... just I wouldnt waste my time unless I was shooting ED
    thanks spark ill try to get him to do ed its just these guys are used to orals

    thanks for the back up sparkle these cycles are really for gym buddies i think i might start charging a small fee to layout cycles
    there is no need to lie about this were on the net for christ sake its not like i see u guys im not afraid to ask ?'s so if its for me u guys will know it is and if its for a friend then thats what i will post
    thanks again spark i guess 4 weeks ed front and 4 weeks ed back is not that bad there is a break in between the ed shots

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    OK, OK, the cycle is not for you , Watch yourself at the gym as planning these cycles could get you labeled as the supplier. Tell your buddies and friends to keep quite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    OK, OK, the cycle is not for you , Watch yourself at the gym as planning these cycles could get you labeled as the supplier. Tell your buddies and friends to keep quite.
    these guys can all the stuff they need they just dont know how to use it i was labeled some kind of steroid cycle guru for some reason i guess its because i look lean and muscular and they know i take roids and they look big bloated and all acned up and wanted to know why i dont so this is how it all started i really might charge them to put together cycles. im like a steroidologist cycle making juicing machine.
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    prop seems fine eod
    I find that i can actually feel it leave my body after three days. from exp with sust.
    i would suggest fina or tren in there somewhere
    i find shooting winnie one day and fina the next works best.
    a combined bottle of fina and winnie works nice for cutting.
    also maybe something between week 4-8 for the first cycle after you stop using the prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate
    prop seems fine eod
    I find that i can actually feel it leave my body after three days. from exp with sust.
    i would suggest fina or tren in there somewhere
    i find shooting winnie one day and fina the next works best.
    a combined bottle of fina and winnie works nice for cutting.
    also maybe something between week 4-8 for the first cycle after you stop using the prop.
    weeks 4-8? i dont get it like what prop is the jump till test e kicks so after week 4 test e will be kicking in
    and isnt fina and tren the same


    any one else
    which cycle would u choose cycle 1 or cycle 2
    thanks for the help guys

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