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04-12-2005, 02:21 PM #1New Member
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how toxic is andro or prohormones to the liver ?
Has anybody read the book Guide to Andro by Dr Lenard ?
Could somebody elaborate some more on the toxicity of prohormones or andro ?
for example when i bumped into this link http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/review/id1110/pg1/
that says among other things that : Liver toxicity, hepatitis, and
liver cancer can develop with drugs ( AAS ), because they are
man-made substances that must be processed by the liver. The liver, of
course, is not designed to handle these synthetic molecules; it lacks
the proper enzymes and cofactor to do the job properly, and this can
result in a flood of toxins that, over a long period of time, can
destroy this vital organ. This is not the case with Androstenedione .
. . [It] 'belongs' in the body. When metabolized in the liver (or
other places in the body), it doesn't even cause a ripple; no useless
or toxic metabolites are formed."
or this link about the book itself http://www.eroscent.com/a101-andro-study.html
that among other things says that :
For example, notes Dr. Lenard, the dose of androstenedione used in the
study – 300 mg per day, swallowed – may have been inadequate to induce
a significant boost in testosterone levels . "When you swallow andro
pills, most of the active androstenedione gets metabolized in the
liver. Only a small portion survives to add to the body's testosterone
pool. You get much better absorption by taking andro as a sublingual
(under the tongue) spray or lozenge, which bypasses the liver. So,
this result tells us nothing about the potential effects – good or bad
– of sublingual andro. And given the lack of a testosterone boost,
it's hardly a surprise that there was no significant difference in
muscle mass associated with androstenedione, compared with placebo,"
Lenard explains.
how toxic is it, specially the one you put under your tongue ?
I have not been able to come across relevant articles that direct me to the belief that andro is toxic. however when alt and ast reading are 10-20 times higher than average a condition of hepatotoxicity might be present on the system, whether this condition is set by a viral hepatitis or anything related to it, that i do not know.
again, according to the doctors the reading itself should not be taking literally as a pattern to follow up or diagnose anything.
but my question still stands: how toxic is it ?
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04-12-2005, 04:22 PM #2
not that toxic, probably as toxic as anavar
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04-12-2005, 08:59 PM #3
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Not toxic enough to really worry about. But why use Pm's, same legal category as AAS now. Unless you stocked up, go with AAS. One bad side effect from AAs that I know...fatty deposits.
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04-13-2005, 12:20 AM #4New Member
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Originally Posted by Angel of death
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04-13-2005, 12:24 AM #5New Member
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Originally Posted by Logan13
bros note this was not a cycle though, was just a freekIng pill couple days before the blood test
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