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    Talking Which testosterone for my first cycle

    I have ordered my first cycle

    (1) Any advice would be appreciated (up/lower the dose, change the compounds etc).

    (2) I am trying to keep possible side's down, hense the doses. Ill have some on hand any way. (D-bol never caused me a problem).

    (3) I have some clenbuterol , would you do this at PCT or use it along with the cycle, I have read mixed opinions on this one.
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    D-bol 25mg P/D 1-4
    Sustanon 400mg E/W 1-12
    Nolva when required
    Clomid PCT

    B-6 200mg E/D
    Creatine 3g E/D

    Clenbuterol

    Thanks members

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    anyone, please, i havent long till it ges shipped out

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    i would up the dbol to 35mgED, test is ok, but i think 500mg/week would be better....and i run clen during PCT

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    and it would be easier as a first cycle to run test-e, that way you dont have to shoot ED or EOD with the sus

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    What are your stats?

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    chances of nolva being required? ill have it on hand also can you get away with injecting sustanon once per week, thanks

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    my stats are 190 lbs, 5'11, 8% BF 21 years thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by burning
    chances of nolva being required? ill have it on hand also can you get away with injecting sustanon once per week, thanks
    NO, sus needs to be shot ED or at least EOD...you need some test e or c, and even that needs to be shot 2x a week

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    sounds to me like the sustanon is a big no no for a first time inject cycle

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    what are results like when using deca and dbol together, are the sides minimal?

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    not really a big no no for any other reason than it needs to be shot so frequently....most first timers dont want to shoot that much, i know i didnt

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    definetly 500mg wk, test e for a first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burning
    what are results like when using deca and dbol together, are the sides minimal?
    everyone is VERY different, hard to predict sides...but i guarantee you will retain a lot of water, be very bloated, and if you dont run some test w it, you will get deca dick (limp!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    everyone is VERY different, hard to predict sides...but i guarantee you will retain a lot of water, be very bloated, and if you dont run some test w it, you will get deca dick (limp!)
    LOL - I get you, not what i want,

    Well from all the advice so far i am looking at

    D-Bol 30mg E/D 1-4
    Enanthate 400mg E/D 1-10
    Nolvadex if required
    Clomid PCT 12-14
    Clenbuterol 12-14

    and plenty to munch,

    This looking better then guys,

    Its about as much as I can afford.

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    have fun with those back pumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by kloter1
    have fun with those back pumps
    Painfull ones? im not sure what you mean, are you suggesting an alteration should be made? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by burning
    LOL - I get you, not what i want,

    Well from all the advice so far i am looking at

    D-Bol 30mg E/D 1-4
    Enanthate 400mg E/D 1-10
    Nolvadex if required
    Clomid PCT 12-14
    Clenbuterol 12-14

    and plenty to munch,

    This looking better then guys,

    Its about as much as I can afford.
    looks good to me

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    you meant 400 mg test per week right???

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    looks good to me
    Nice one mate, think its sorted, i hope the guy will change it to enanthate . I will have 4000mg in total of enan, enough for a 10 week cycle at 400mg p/w. Is it vital i front load? I will be using d-bol. Cheers

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    Is it vital i front load enanthate ? I have enough for 4000mg / 400mg P/W 1-10, I will be using d-bol 30mg E/D 1-4. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    you meant 400 mg test per week right???
    Yeah 400mg P/W

    Thanks, why is that not arite, what about the front loading issue, not sure i can afford any more bro, at least the D-bol is there

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    no, run it the same throughout

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    no, run it the same throughout
    Cheerz for your help mate, take it eazy and thanks to everyone else thats helped out. There were so many mixed views on sustanon I couldnt figure it out for my self. Thanks again, if any one whats to add anything here feel free.

    Tomo

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