Thread: *TEST is DANGEROUS!*
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10-30-2005, 01:28 PM #81
*NOT ALL STEROIDS ARE TESTOSTERONE DERIVATIVES**
Steroids are derived from either:
1.) Testosterone (Boldenone , Methandrostenelone)
2.) Dihydrotestosterone(Winstrol , Oxandrolone)
3.) Nandrolone (Trenbolone )
**NOT ALL STEROIDS CAUSE SHUTDOWN OF PITUITARY AND TESTICLES**
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10-30-2005, 02:17 PM #82
For information regarding my cycles and training regimens, email me:
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10-30-2005, 02:42 PM #83Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
Ok then show me your BLOODWRK that you claim to do regularly that SHOWS your so-called COMPLETE shutdown buddy!!!
NO steroids will completley shut you down if used in the proper cycles Ive seen bloodwork of guys on for 20+ weeks and still be producing some test levels(although minimal) they were using test as well.
DHT is still test based nandrolone is a nor-testosterone and it is known to be more suppressive than a regular test based cycle.
Your cycle are NOT well planned out at all and lead to libido problems
After ALL cycles your will require PCT correct???
Then why do you insist on planning cycles using such weak compounds and stack many more together.
Your cycles still involve DHT derived compounds which are known to have a lesser anabolic rating on the vida scale leaving yourself to use higher doses to get the same anabolic effects
Proviron is a test derivative buddy how do you think it helps with libido???
If your going to require PCT no matter what after each cycle then why not use test as it will give you better gains with than without. Your worried about estrogen sides obviously why not use an AI and nolva to take care of this.
You dont seem to care about DHT because your willing to use 5aa derived steroids already so no need for dutasteride or topical hairloss solutions.
If you are so adimate against using test as your primary builder than why not at least use enough to supply your bodies own natty test production even 100mg a week would help you and it wouldnt shut you down anymore than EQ would plus it would keep all libido problems away and not cause any side effects.
You keep reccomending 17aa steroids which are plain horrible for your body they wreak havoc on your liver and even more importantly cholesterol levels.
You could easily take care of those sides by using say 100mg of test a week and then go with your 600mgs of EQ a week it takes care of nearly all of your concerns regarding why test is so bad.
I STILL CHALLENGE YOU TO POST ANY BLOODWORK THAT SHOWS 100% SHUTDOWN!!!
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10-30-2005, 02:52 PM #84Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
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10-30-2005, 02:54 PM #85
Who said I don't use test-derivatives? I use DBOL ! AND EQ! Both test-derived.
Why use MILD anabolics? Because they WON'T shut you down. TRY IT! You will have NO libido issues--these are URBAN MYTHS.
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10-30-2005, 02:54 PM #86Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
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10-30-2005, 02:56 PM #87
Tren is 19-nor derived.
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10-30-2005, 02:58 PM #88Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
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10-30-2005, 02:58 PM #89Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
POST BLOODWORK!!!
I want to see your 100% shutdown Im CALLING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW
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10-30-2005, 03:03 PM #90
Hi I am Ross, I have a hidden agenda to stop people from using test. I make false statements and bluff that I have the research to back it up. I am the ultimate authority and nobody can question me. Test is the root of all evil and somehow, magically, all other AASs are safe to use. I never have libido problems, which I can't afford, since I need to butt**** my boyfriends daily.
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10-30-2005, 03:06 PM #91Originally Posted by powerliftmike
I will NOT.
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10-30-2005, 03:08 PM #92Originally Posted by Bryan2
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10-30-2005, 03:11 PM #93
*****TESTOSTERONE Enanthate SUPRESSED T-LEVELS to 3% OF BASELINE!
Low-dose human chorionic gonadotropin maintains intratesticular
testosterone in normal men with testosterone-induced gonadotropin suppression.
Feinberg School of Medicine, Northwestern University, Tarry 15-751, 303 East Chicago Avenue, Chicago, Illinois 60611-3008. [email protected].
In previous studies of testicular biopsy tissue from healthy men, intratesticular testosterone (ITT) has been shown to be much higher than serum testosterone (T), suggesting that high ITT is needed relative to serum T for normal spermatogenesis in men. However, the quantitative relationship between ITT and spermatogenesis is not known. To begin to address this issue experimentally, we determined the dose-response relationship between human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG ) and ITT to ascertain the minimum dose needed to maintain ITT in the normal range. Twenty-nine men with normal reproductive physiology were randomized to receive 200 mg T enanthate weekly in combination with either saline placebo or 125, 250, or 500 IU hCG every other day for 3 wk. ITT was assessed in testicular fluid obtained by percutaneous fine needle aspiration at baseline and at the end of treatment. Baseline serum T (14.1 nmol/liter) was 1.2% of ITT (1174 nmol/liter). LH and FSH were profoundly suppressed to 5% and 3% of baseline, respectively, and ITT was suppressed by 94% (1234 to 72 nmol/liter) in the T enanthate/placebo group. ITT increased linearly with increasing hCG dose (P < 0.001). Posttreatment ITT was 25% less than baseline in the 125 IU hCG group, 7% less than baseline in the 250 IU hCG group, and 26% greater than baseline in the 500 IU hCG group. These results demonstrate that relatively low dose hCG maintains ITT within the normal range in healthy men with gonadotropin suppression. Extensions of this study will allow determination of the ITT concentration threshold required to maintain spermatogenesis in man.
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10-30-2005, 03:26 PM #94Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
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10-30-2005, 03:26 PM #95
Ive seen studies showing nearly 85-90% shutdown with as little as 10mg of dbol ed what is the difference between recovery from 90% to recovery from 97%???
your study just showed that the use of HCG eliminates your main point!!!
PCT has been shown time and time again to recover test production no matter what degree of shutdown.
You dont listen ever so continue with what your doing and maybe some will listen to you and youll feel more important about yourself
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10-30-2005, 03:28 PM #96Originally Posted by longhorn814
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10-30-2005, 03:29 PM #97Originally Posted by Bryan2
EVEN at 100mgs ED Dianabol ONLY SUPRESSED T LEVELS to 40%!!
Here comes the study...
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10-30-2005, 03:33 PM #98
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"In this study, done in the early 80’s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it’s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it’s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Bodyfat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance. I can only agree, having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day)…I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ½ of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart…"
From A-R profiles: Hooker
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10-30-2005, 03:33 PM #99Originally Posted by chest6
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10-30-2005, 03:35 PM #100
My Email adress is readily available on other sites.
Spam is not scary...LOL
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10-30-2005, 03:56 PM #101Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
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10-30-2005, 03:57 PM #102
Lolol!
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10-30-2005, 03:58 PM #103Originally Posted by longhorn814
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10-30-2005, 04:02 PM #104Originally Posted by longhorn814
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10-31-2005, 02:18 AM #105
hey ross, lets see who bitching about test when your 55 years old and cant get your shit up anymore lol.....
on a serious note, i have had bloodwork from day one, and my levels actually come back a bit stronger than when i was all natty... explain that one ????
better yet, i thing the sauce might be a bit much for you, just stick to your 1ad
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10-31-2005, 04:21 AM #106Originally Posted by don anabolico
Just drop it, he won't let you have last word, even if we know you're 100% right....that's Ross' life, bitching about what everybody knows to be great. please, i'm begging.
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10-31-2005, 01:16 PM #107Banned
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admiting to use of steroids and using and helping with the use off and then give an aol email?
cant they tell where exactly you live, and everything about you from that?
maybe you can get raided caguht with drugs and be gone from us for awhile..
i mena your statements are on here already...
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10-31-2005, 01:31 PM #108Member
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Test = safest steroid out there imo.
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10-31-2005, 01:34 PM #109Originally Posted by aadrenaline
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10-31-2005, 06:13 PM #110
how does ross keep making his way back here? somebody should send that guy a virus to keep him away from this site for a little while. from the info he tries to spread it sounds like he's no more than about 14 years old.
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10-31-2005, 06:19 PM #111
This little Bitch takes the cake of Biggest Loser of the Millenium award here or on any sight as far as Im concerned !!
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10-31-2005, 06:23 PM #112Originally Posted by punchrf
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10-31-2005, 06:34 PM #113Originally Posted by BigGuns101
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10-31-2005, 06:46 PM #114Originally Posted by BigGuns101
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10-31-2005, 07:06 PM #115
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10-31-2005, 08:17 PM #116
This thread needs to die, hopefully somebody will close it.
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10-31-2005, 08:45 PM #117
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10-31-2005, 09:06 PM #118AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
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10-31-2005, 09:34 PM #119New Member
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what is the name of the study (in the blood) that analyze the testosterone levels ?
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10-31-2005, 10:48 PM #120
Ross.....come back. I like hearing what you have to say...
No seriously, I do.
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