my journey with aas and my conclusions...

**don anabolico** · 10-30-2005, 05:44 PM

i guess i just wanna ramble on today (took an adderal lol)

well anyways, i worked out naturally for 3 years and then decded to do my first cycle. my first one was anavar alone (qv) @ 40mg a day. i did this for 7 weeks. i didnt notice any side effects, but then again i didnt notice along of lbm gains... but i loved the vascularity (never had been a vascular person). from there i went on and tried testosterone and npp (fast acting deca ). the test was also fast (prop). i decided on these because i was uncertain of the side effects i might get as i had never done a real cycle, and liked the idea of being able to discontinue the drugs and stop the sides quick. my dosage was low, 400mg of npp per week and 300 of test. i knew about always running the deca lower than the test for libido perpices, but also wanted to see how i would handle the libido thing. well sides were minimum with some acne on the face (not alot at all, but i never had acne). i dide get one huge ass pimple on my nose that never went away until 3 weeks after i stopped the cycle. anyways, i loved it, i gained around 27lbs in 6 weeks, which was remarkable. i did notice a ton of bloat especially in my face (lookled like a watermelon was in my mouth). more irritable than usual. libido was actually better than normal. i kept about 20lbs after i finished pct. i did miss the harness than the var gave me. i went on to do that cycle again, and gained about 12lbs. i think i might have done a var cycle after that as well. anyways, i started looking into trenbolone alot and loved what i read... kinda got a little greedy jumping onto the tren , but it just sounded like a wonder drug. so i did tren acetate and prop for 10 weeks. i like the short esters, cause i couldnt imagine using a longer ester of test and having even more bloat! well my dosage was 100mg eod of tren and 125-150 eod of test. eveything they had said about tren was true, i gained 33 lbs and lost bf while getting more vascular and strong as hell! what more could you ask for right? now for the sides, i noticed i got that same damn huge pimple on my nose in the same place i had twice before with the deca. i was really irritable, controllable but just annoyed so much. and halfway through i noticed.... shit! i got fking limp dick!!! never thought it would happen to me! so i used cialis and that helped things out. i came off and the weight just started goin down... and down.... and down... even though i used the pefect pct that had always worked for me, including hcg , nolva, clomid, adex. i noticed that my libido was almost none exsistant, and i had a limp sausage... i squeezed my nipple one night and noticed i was lactating!!! shit now i know im prone to that shit and had to get my proclin levels back. well i wont bore you with the struggle, but b6 @ 600mg/day cured the lactating, and i ended up with a struggle that was hardly worth it. i also gained fat and lost almost everything i gained!
got my natty test up to 680 and then planned my next cycle.... i just wanted a simple mild one after going through all that. i chose btg oxandrin (anavar) and test prop. i loved it, i gained about 15 lbs and lost body fat and got ROCK hard, this stuff blew the qv crap away!
so ive decided that from my journey i just wanna stick to mild drugs such as oxandrin and gain slowly with no headaces. i will look into insulin and might try that, but it will be in maybe 2 years or so. moral is that everything works diffrently for everyone, and everyone reacts diffrent from aas. you have to find out how your own body ticks and just remember that. when you know how your body handles everything, then you can then decide whats good for you and whats worth while. btw, i got awsome results and the one thing i can say is that my diet was spot on almost everytime, and i cannot stress how important it is... read up on that twice as much as your do with just wanting to take aas. i feel bloodwork is also crucial, and if your going to take the pluge of starting aas, its the least you could do for your own selfsake.
i think im done.... i also have been using gh on and off, but can honestly say it didnt do much... maybe when im older... but for now, it i had to pay for my own gh, i simply wouldnt. just thought id share some experiances and view points, and i would love to read some of these things from other bros on here.

**don anabolico** · 10-30-2005, 05:47 PM

oh before i forget i also messed around with dnp 3 times, and yes i lost 1 lbm a day and it was amazing!! but i also dont see as well as i used to, and i will never do it again as a result. ive also used clenbuterol and like it.... no downsides, other than i shake more than a vibrator and people at work look at me like im on crack.

**wolfyEVH** · 10-30-2005, 05:49 PM

i agree to find out what works for you and do what you want...its your body...however for the noobs that are here, it is strongly suggested to follow the advice from the vets on the boards...things we say like "always include test" "no dbol only cycles", etc.

**don anabolico** · 10-30-2005, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by wolfyEVH

i agree to find out what works for you and do what you want...its your body...however for the noobs that are here, it is strongly suggested to follow the advice from the vets on the boards...things we say like "always include test" "no dbol only cycles", etc.

well i am also a vet, of many boards like elite, and i agree there are smarter ways to go about things, like trying test by itself for your first cycle. but there are things i also disagree with. i dont agree to always add test at all. for some people maybe, but there are alot of variables. but i see your point and totally agree, knowledge is power and this couldnt be anymore truthful than to a first timer.

***Narkissos*** · 10-30-2005, 08:44 PM

Good post...good read...thanks for relating your experiences.

If "TheMindOfRoss" was as candid and respectful in his posts then he'd be liked.

Thanks again

**don anabolico** · 10-31-2005, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Good post...good read...thanks for relating your experiences.

If "TheMindOfRoss" was as candid and respectful in his posts then he'd be liked.

Thanks again

no thank you for reading my short novel, lol.
i would really enjoy reading some of yalls experiances in detail if you ever got the chance.

**chuck89gt5.0** · 10-31-2005, 10:06 AM

I stopped reading when I seen you only had 3 years lifting experience when you started juicing, that is just wrong and stupid.

**don anabolico** · 10-31-2005, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0

I stopped reading when I seen you only had 3 years lifting experience when you started juicing, that is just wrong and stupid.

3 years of dedicated training that is.
and in my situation, which you have absolutly no idea about, i wasnt wrong at all. your the idiot that makes statments like this, with no understanding of why i started or any info on me at all. and since your so fvcking holy, why dont you post some pics of yourself so we can see where your fountain of knowledge has taken you? so after reading this, post your pics up and put me in my place, or shut your mouth and try being a little bit more respectful of others without the insults. you know, now i realize why people dont make any posts like this sharing in detail experiances. its because of morons like yourself.

in the mean time ill be waiting for these pics, unless youre to imbarrased, and i will understand if you dont reply with any pics.

**cannibal** · 10-31-2005, 02:39 PM

OMG....chuck89gt5.0, you have just been called out.....lets see those pics bro!

**Smedman101** · 10-31-2005, 02:41 PM

I have 4 years of hard training myself. the first year I lost 50lbs! "alot of fat". I got down to 200 and gained alot of muscle! I now reached 224 at 5'11 and more mass 3 years later. My best friend and I train together and we get different results on the same gas. You just got to find that rite combo.

**pv66** · 10-31-2005, 02:51 PM

So as you said do test for the first cycle. Would test prop on its own 150 mg EOD be a good start if I were interested in cutting?

**mister.fantastic** · 10-31-2005, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0

I stopped reading when I seen you only had 3 years lifting experience when you started juicing, that is just wrong and stupid.

How many year did you have under your belt before you began juicing chuck, or have you began juicing yet? I hope the '89 in your username doesn't reffer to the year you were born, hopfully it refers to the year you graduated high school or the year you graduated college or the year you lost you virginity..

**bamaguy** · 10-31-2005, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0

I stopped reading when I seen you only had 3 years lifting experience when you started juicing, that is just wrong and stupid.

So you were 18 when you started lifting seriously and have been doing so for 4 years making you 22, which to most people would be too young to start cycling. So if you want to bash others for their choices, prepare to get bashed yourself. And where are those pics? You got called out and just folded. Or do you not want everyone to see how you stunted your growth. Are you making the 6'2" up chuck????

**don anabolico** · 10-31-2005, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by pv66

So as you said do test for the first cycle. Would test prop on its own 150 mg EOD be a good start if I were interested in cutting?

you can lean up on test prop if your diet is in check.
but it also depends what type of body you have. if your a mesomorph i wouldnt cut with test. i myself used to be a meso, and i just bloat up so much, even on prop. i think 150mg would be a lil much for a first cycle, as i believe you could get good results off say 100 eod. do 100-125.

**znak** · 11-01-2005, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0

I stopped reading when I seen you only had 3 years lifting experience when you started juicing, that is just wrong and stupid.

The pics, Chucky, the pics!

Oh, I think Chucky left the room.

**tek.** · 11-01-2005, 05:58 AM

interesting read, thanks

**Froggy** · 11-01-2005, 06:35 AM

Good post...thanks for sharing...
You obviously did research before your cycles & planned much better than most would...But as with your tren cycle, the best layed plans can go south in a hurry...Theory & reality do not always meet in the middle...you knew how to deal with it though...A great man (well ok...boy scout) once said "be prepared"...again, good post...

**pv66** · 11-01-2005, 08:50 AM

That's what I'm leaning towards test prop eod at 100mg. I am not a mesomorph.

**chuck89gt5.0** · 11-01-2005, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by bamaguy

So you were 18 when you started lifting seriously and have been doing so for 4 years making you 22, which to most people would be too young to start cycling. So if you want to bash others for their choices, prepare to get bashed yourself. And where are those pics? You got called out and just folded. Or do you not want everyone to see how you stunted your growth. Are you making the 6'2" up chuck????

Hey smart guy do some math. I am 24. Started lifting in the 8th grade but didnt get serious until I was about 18 (about 6 years for you dipshits). My senior year I was 235 and benched close to 300lbs. I did my first cycle about a year and a half ago. I was 230lbs when I started I had a great base to start I have been as heavy as 255.......as far as pictures I have no need to post any. If you really want to know what i look like you can PM a couple members from this board who know me personally they can vouch for my size..... If you need any names PM me and I will gladly tell you who to talk to. Next question please.

**chuck89gt5.0** · 11-01-2005, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by mister.fantastic

How many year did you have under your belt before you began juicing chuck, or have you began juicing yet? I hope the '89 in your username doesn't reffer to the year you were born, hopfully it refers to the year you graduated high school or the year you graduated college or the year you lost you virginity..

Thats 89 as in 1989 mustang gt assclown. I was born in 81. I lost my virginity to your mom back in middleschool.

**Myka** · 11-01-2005, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0

I stopped reading when I seen you only had 3 years lifting experience when you started juicing, that is just wrong and stupid.

Wow where did that come from? Why did you feel like you needed to say that? Even if you thought it was true you could have said it a different way.

**Darkness** · 11-01-2005, 11:16 PM

Lol this thread is too funny

Anyways, Don great post on your experiences. I personally also had 3 years of hard lifting when I first went on the sauce. But I had just finished USMC OCS and was in awesome shape.

**don anabolico** · 11-02-2005, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0

Hey smart guy do some math. I am 24. Started lifting in the 8th grade but didnt get serious until I was about 18 (about 6 years for you dipshits). My senior year I was 235 and benched close to 300lbs. I did my first cycle about a year and a half ago. I was 230lbs when I started I had a great base to start I have been as heavy as 255.......as far as pictures I have no need to post any. If you really want to know what i look like you can PM a couple members from this board who know me personally they can vouch for my size..... If you need any names PM me and I will gladly tell you who to talk to. Next question please.

just post your pics fatass, im calling you out. i dont care to talk to your buddies. put me in my place and show us what your bragging about?
and if you dont, i will still understand, i have trained alot of obese people in my time. oh and for your information, 235 benching 300 aint shit. my w/o partner is 265 benching just under 500lbs.

so please post your pics, or dont reply again, you will be waisting your breath and still seem totally un-credible.

**Perrypup** · 11-02-2005, 01:16 PM

HEHE nice read Don Thanks for sharing its nice to see other poeples starting cycles and what experiences they have had... And where is chuck89gt5.0 the Assclowns pics..

**don anabolico** · 11-02-2005, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Perrypup

HEHE nice read Don Thanks for sharing its nice to see other poeples starting cycles and what experiences they have had... And where is chuck89gt5.0 the Assclowns pics..

ya thank man. i tell you im starting to look into these short cycles as well. and if i do i wil get blood work done before during and after to see how they really effect us. i will post the results here for you guys with my thoughts on it