Thread: Eddie Guerrero cause of death
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11-15-2005, 03:49 PM #1
Eddie Guerrero cause of death
The autopsy reports showed his death was caused by heart failure.His heart was enlarged and the arterys were very small and narrow. His wife says his past and schedule probably played BIG roles in his death....RIP Eddie
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11-15-2005, 04:08 PM #2Associate Member
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i think thats bullshit tough....... U dont die from an enlarged heart. If you die from steroids its couse of "blood stop" or heart attack caused by "blood stop"(dunno the word in english).
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11-15-2005, 04:12 PM #3
They said he died from heart disease not from the enlargment. Sorry. They even said there were no signs of trauma. He just went to sleep. Wasn't like he died a horrible choking death in alot of pain. Just went to sleep
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11-15-2005, 04:13 PM #4Originally Posted by karln
Enlarged Heart
As the name suggests, enlarged heart is an increase in the size of the heart. It's detected by physical examination, X-ray or other imaging tests.
An enlarged heart may be caused by a thickening of the heart muscle because of increased workload. (This increased workload can be due to heart valve disease or high blood pressure, for example.) This is called hypertrophy (hi-PER'tro-fe), which refers to enlargement of an organ or tissue due to an increase in cell size.
Left ventricular hypertrophy (LVH) is the medical term for enlargement of the left ventricle. (The left ventricle is the heart's main pumping chamber.) Hypertrophy also occurs in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (hi"per-TRO'fik kar"de-o-mi-OP'ah-the). Enlarged heart may also be a dilation (expansion) of the heart due to damage that weakens the heart muscle. Examples include heart attack, congestive heart failure and dilated cardiomyopathy. (Cardiomyopathy is a serious disease in which the heart muscle becomes inflamed and doesn't work as well as it should. For more information, see the Cardiomyopathy entry in this guide.)
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11-15-2005, 04:37 PM #5Originally Posted by edmen2
there are many professional athletes who have enlarged left ventricles including Lance Armstrong! There is lots of debate in the medical community about whether or not it is a good thing or not for athletes to have this. Some think it may be due to training causing the left ventricle to grow. I'd be more concerned if i had an enlarged left ventricle and i was a fat, lazy, out of shape slob.
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11-15-2005, 04:43 PM #6Originally Posted by longhorn814
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11-15-2005, 04:57 PM #7Associate Member
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THE HEART GROWTH IS IN EVERY ATHLETE...... SO its not ocuse of that.... High blood pressure YES....
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11-15-2005, 05:28 PM #8Member
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so with steriods the hearth will grow aswell?????????
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11-15-2005, 05:39 PM #9Associate Member
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Yeah I dont think it was the steorids, Eddie battled drug abuse and alcholismn most of his life. He was in rehab for cocaine, and pain killers, as well as booz 4 years ago, he also slipped up in the last 4 years as well. A lot of his injurie time missed was him going back and forth from rehab, I believe that on top of roids probably caused his death, regardless he was a great star, and will be missed...RIP Latino Heat
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11-15-2005, 05:47 PM #10Associate Member
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wow nice with alot of wrestling fans in here thats awesome i think i found my board
latino heat was awesome and i think roids were apart of his death but he aint roiding like we are he probably never off couse his above his natural maximum......
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11-15-2005, 05:48 PM #11Associate Member
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It was heart failure. It was from his past – the drinking and the drug abuse. They found signs of heart disease. She (the examiner) said that the blood vessels were very worn and narrow, and that just showed all the abuse from the scheduling of work and his past. And Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that’s what caused the heart failure. He went into a deep sleep.
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11-15-2005, 06:07 PM #12Originally Posted by karln
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11-15-2005, 10:21 PM #13Junior Member
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just remember the man --------------- aas or greasy ass wendy burgers . it doesn't really matter we all take risks , and we keep going , healthy debates rule..spectulations curse us ..... RIP. Eddie-----------
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11-15-2005, 10:44 PM #14Associate Member
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jdh i think its combination of working out hard/steroids + the drugs combined that ****ed it up for him
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11-16-2005, 12:05 AM #15Associate Member
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Whats funny is that, as soon as he was dead, alot of ppl were saying roids. SO what happens is that, on a anabolic forum like this, ppl start getting scared. They start asking themselves, "i'm taking roids now, whats going to happen to my future"....i just think ppl got to relax. I know this really doesnt have to do with anything, but you have to admit I'm right. People start getting scared about their own lives.
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11-16-2005, 12:13 AM #16Junior Member
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RIP Eddie, he was a great wrestler.
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11-16-2005, 11:49 AM #17
Im wondering if accidently injecting into a vein creating a block at the heart could have caused the heart to fail? not saying thats what he did that night b4 bed. just wondering if that COULD be the cause. im no expert tho.
RIP Eddie
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11-16-2005, 12:12 PM #18Originally Posted by karln
HBO did a special on roids and the reporter couldn't find any evidence of anyone dying from gear. He even talked to Lyle Alzado's(sp) Doc and he said Lyle's tumor use genetic, his mom died from the same thing. So the poster boy for how steroid and HGH kill people, his own Doc said they didn't kill him
This reporter was a former SI writer that promoted the idea that, steroid killed people, but when he did this investigation, he couldn't find any evidence of this, he has now changed his tune about steroids. He actually said they are safe when used by adult males. They are dangerous to teens (this includes young 20's) and women, but in mature males they are safe.
JohnnyB
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11-16-2005, 12:15 PM #19Originally Posted by ultimate_beef
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11-16-2005, 12:41 PM #20Originally Posted by Tattoo70
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11-16-2005, 12:43 PM #21
I loved eddie. a great & sad loss in the business. alot of recent wrestlers who died used aas, & most of them were heart related. but alot of ppl dont realize that alot of these wrestlers abuse coke big time & alcohol. its a shame
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11-16-2005, 12:50 PM #22Originally Posted by BOBBY D
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11-16-2005, 01:08 PM #23Associate Member
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
coke and alcohol doesnt exactly help that mather..... and the guys in the documentary dont use above 500 mg test probably....
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11-16-2005, 02:30 PM #24
Eddie was a hard core party machine who lived in excess. He died from continous self destruction over the years. I've seen this first hand a few times with people I knew. They think they're indestructable and they keep doing coke, various drugs and pain killer, alcohol and a lot of roids. They all die early. Both of the dudes I knew where in their early 40's when they died a few years ago. Everybody brings up roids as the cause of death and that's bullshit. These dudes screwed their hearts up with coke, x, alcohol. IMO, roids were not the cause of death, no matter how much they did.
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11-16-2005, 02:31 PM #25Anabolic Member
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Steroid use has been linked to cardiac hypertrophy, to worsening of the lipid profile (which is a major risk factor for atherosclerosis -the narrowing and weakining of arteries), so to say in short : IMO steroids may have played a part on his death. This doesnt mean that I dont think that steroids can be used safely..
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11-16-2005, 02:33 PM #26Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
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11-16-2005, 02:43 PM #27Originally Posted by karln
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11-16-2005, 02:51 PM #28Junior Member
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It is a shame... I am shocked this is the first I ahve heard of this. I have watched wrestling since I was a young kid, And I have literally seen eddie break his back for that buisness. Whatever the cause of deeath He was truly a great in this sport.
R.I.P. Eddie... we'll miss you.
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11-16-2005, 03:13 PM #29
This is all too simple. Just think about everything we do. Roids, alcohol, perhaps there are some drug users in this forum, unhealthy diets, so on and so forth. Our bodies were engineered to perform naturally, easy as that. And another part of the natural lifestyle is that in the foods we eat, high cholestorol, animal fats, tons of sugar, just to name a few will be the death to many of us. So with just natural foods alone being a killer, what would would persuade you to think that a.s.s., which is synthetically engineered to make your body perform and be enhanced beyond its own natural capabilites, wont lead to potential death? I have atherosclerosis(shrinking and clogging of the arteries). Now, I eat correctly everyday since I have been diagnosed with this about 6 months ago. But the problem is still there and I am at risk since a.s.s. elevates my blood pressure pretty high. So in my case, its like stepping on a water hose and turning on the valve. A little water may come thru, but there is alot of back pressure building up. The same thing goes for the heart. So with drugs, roids, alcohol, poor eating habits, maybe and I am saying maybe, Eddie's death was related to roid use in some capacity. A 38 year old man isnt really a natural testostorone fortress anymore, so I am definitely sure he was on full force. So in all, lets keep things in proper perspective here, the man died living his life the way he saw it out to be. Fully aware of risk, he ventured on. Just like we do. I think we all worry about what if? The proof is in many threads on this forum alone. You see threads like, Why is my heart beating so fast? or How would this affect me healthwise if I took this amount? And many more. These results will continue to vary from individual to another, but the common thing we must all recognize is we are pushing our lives further than any average person who steps foot into a gym by what we do. And I must admit the beneifts are great when you get the results you seek, but I am expecting to see some adverse shit in the future in my health and I am willing to deal with it. Thats what we all have to do.
Take care guys and get cholestorol checks from your doc to see where you are and keep it as regular as possible. Strokes and heart attacks may not kill you the first time, but it could hurt a life time.
Much Love fellas,
JrayLast edited by Jray1der; 11-16-2005 at 03:18 PM.
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11-16-2005, 03:22 PM #30Originally Posted by Jray1der
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11-16-2005, 03:29 PM #31
Thanks for the your view. But in turn, with every right thing some may do to correct things, there is one thing they do wrong to counteract the progress. example: I eat all healthy foods, workout, take my medicines, but then I fire up a cigarette, which lowers HDL's which in turn lessens the retrieval of LDL's from your blood, causing subsequent blockage over time. It sucks, but it is what it is I suppose, but again good point. Thanks
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11-16-2005, 03:34 PM #32Originally Posted by stupidhippo
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11-16-2005, 03:36 PM #33Originally Posted by ultimate_beef
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11-16-2005, 03:45 PM #34Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by edmen2
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11-16-2005, 03:52 PM #35
I believe that one thing can truly affect another. Meaning that steroid use may not possibly be the only way a persons life is in jeopardy. Other things may have to contribute to the demise of a person. Example: bullet+gun+trigger+finger+squeeze= shot fired! All those elements had to take place, right? IT is the same thing in health. For some people, roids can accelerate their demise considerably. I know people want to defend steroids and thats fine, but all things considered, awareness should still be excercised at all costs. If you feel some irregularities, seek help, their could be some adverse affects that you can catch before it gets too late. Things like that.
Originally Posted by edmen2
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11-16-2005, 03:58 PM #36Associate Member
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Jray1der ur totally right
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11-16-2005, 07:59 PM #37
we have basically hijacked the eddie guerrero issue but since we are talkin about harmful substances why is gear banned and the #1 killer isnt. cigarettes!
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11-16-2005, 08:09 PM #38
in all honesty i wonder why so many drugs are illegal in the first place. its your body, do with it as you please and except the concequences that may follow.
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11-16-2005, 09:14 PM #39Originally Posted by jdh
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11-17-2005, 12:35 PM #40Originally Posted by karln
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