subing test for sust, should I be alright?

**juggernautPD** · 11-16-2005, 01:33 PM

Alright, I have my gear on order, only I just found out that’s its not going to be sust, its going to be test-enanthate . So, this is what my first cycle is looking like…
8weeks: Deca -300mg on wen and Test-250mg mon/fri and Clomid for pct.
The person I am getting it from says that it should work pretty well, and I can expect 20-30lbs with the right diet/rest/time in the gym.
The one thing I am just a little nervous on is that the test seems to have a few more side effects then the sust (for obvious reasons). Things like gyno, sexual side effects after the cycle, and losing my gains are flying around my head right now. I am sure regardless of what type of gear it is, the side effects are similar, but with it being my first cycle, and the smaller dosages that I am doing, should I be worried? Would tapering down at towards the end rather then stopping cold be better for my body, or is it not worth it?

**TheMudMan** · 11-16-2005, 01:42 PM

You will be better off with the single ester over the multi esters in Sust..........

**Booz** · 11-16-2005, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

You will be better off with the single ester over the multi esters in Sust..........

yup i feel the same about this!

**c8rsa** · 11-16-2005, 01:43 PM

You will be fine on the Test,as its good for a first cycle. You could just run that on its own an save the deca for another cycle

**juggernautPD** · 11-16-2005, 01:50 PM

Why will I be better off?

**JiGGaMaN** · 11-16-2005, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by juggernautPD

Why will I be better off?

why would you be worse off with test e??
sustanon isnt really that great imo because your blood/test levels will be fluctuating a lot more because of the different half lifes of 4 tests that are in it. with a single test ester like test e by itself you will have more stable blood levels throughout your cycle. more fluctuation of blood levels= more side effects. this is why test e would be better.

**juggernautPD** · 11-16-2005, 02:10 PM

sounds good to me...
but what about the other things like gyno, sexual side effects, and keeping my gains?

**JiGGaMaN** · 11-16-2005, 02:12 PM

well thats something you have to worry about with sust as well. its called ancilliaries and pct my friend.

**c8rsa** · 11-16-2005, 02:19 PM

Its called PCT nolva/clomid

**juggernautPD** · 11-16-2005, 03:11 PM

Do you think I will be alright with the clomid alone?

**c8rsa** · 11-16-2005, 03:20 PM

if ur worried take 10-20mg nolva ed

**TheMudMan** · 11-16-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by juggernautPD

sounds good to me...
but what about the other things like gyno, sexual side effects, and keeping my gains?

Durring the cycle run 20mg of Nolva ED

then 14 days after the last Enan injection start PCT for no less then 30 days:

Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

**trulbfan3** · 11-16-2005, 04:23 PM

ide take clomid 100mg day for 10 days then 50 mg day for 10 days 14 days after last test injection

**juggernautPD** · 11-16-2005, 10:33 PM

I know I can get my hands on the Clomid with out a prob, the others I will have to look into. So the clomid alone should cut down on the loss of gains, and the other side effects?

**philiioniyodealio** · 11-16-2005, 10:44 PM

clomid will help but you really need to get some nolva and run the both of them...dont want to screw around with pct. Its the most crucial part of any cycle yould do.