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    Thumbs up Anabolic/Androgenic Ratios

    these were all taken from the steroid profiles forum on this site and compiled here for quick reference. I was looking for these a little while back and never got a listing, when I found them on this site, I simply threw them together for us to checkout.

    Anadrol 50:
    Androgenic : Anabolic Ratio: 45:320

    Anavar :
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 322-630:24

    Androil:
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 100:100

    Andropen 275:
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range):100:100

    Deca -Durabolin :
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 125:37

    Dianabol :
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 90-210:40-60

    Equipoise :
    Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: 100:50

    Halotestin :
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:1,900/850

    Masteron :
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio:62:25

    NPP:
    Androgenic/Anabolic ratio: 37:125

    Omnadren :
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 100:100

    Oral Turnibol:
    Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: >100:>0

    Parabolan (Tren ):
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 500/500

    Primobolan :
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 88:44-57

    Proviron :
    Androgenic: Anabolic Ratio:30-40/100-150

    Sustanon 250:
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100

    Testosterone Cyp, Enanthate , Prop, Suspension
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100

    Winstrol :
    Androgenic/Anabolic Ratio:30:320

    Hope this helps some of you

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    holy crap HALO

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    sounds like halo is about to get mighty popular

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    love that tbol thang........can't wait to get my hand on it, along w/some test e maybe...

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    How can t-bol have less than 0 for its androgenic number??

    What does it make your hair grow back??? ahah

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    Is that halo rating accurate? If so.....I might look into it.

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    Ttt^^^^

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    A.A ratios can be very misleading.

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    tell me about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre
    How can t-bol have less than 0 for its androgenic number??

    What does it make your hair grow back??? ahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre
    How can t-bol have less than 0 for its androgenic number??

    What does it make your hair grow back??? ahah
    Thats actuallya 'greather than' sign.

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    Can someone explain this to me... Can't figure it out

    Does this indicate how strong a steroid really is? EQ shows 100:50 and is said to be half as androgenic as testosterone .. If this would be correct then anavar is 3-6 times more anabolic than testosterone.. It doesn't make sence and I know I must be missing something...

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    those values were determined by comparing the effect ot testosterone on the seminal cessel and lavitar ani muscle in mice compared to a control group. Aparently, they found that boldenone induced the same level of hypertrophy as testosterone (judged by the levator ani) but only half the androgenicity (determined by the seminal vessel).

    Unfortunatly, these test were done in rats and not humans so these figures can not be taken over into the real world. Not to mentio nthat diet and exercise /may/ also change the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milky87
    those values were determined by comparing the effect ot testosterone on the seminal cessel and lavitar ani muscle in mice compared to a control group. Aparently, they found that boldenone induced the same level of hypertrophy as testosterone (judged by the levator ani) but only half the androgenicity (determined by the seminal vessel).

    Unfortunatly, these test were done in rats and not humans so these figures can not be taken over into the real world.
    Not to mentio nthat diet and exercise DO also change the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milky87
    those values were determined by comparing the effect ot testosterone on the seminal cessel and lavitar ani muscle in mice compared to a control group. Aparently, they found that boldenone induced the same level of hypertrophy as testosterone (judged by the levator ani) but only half the androgenicity (determined by the seminal vessel).

    Unfortunatly, these test were done in rats and not humans so these figures can not be taken over into the real world. Not to mentio nthat diet and exercise /may/ also change the results
    Right, those numbers are used to gauge how androgenic the steroid is... when compared to testosterone.

    Science has routinely tried to create a purely anabolic steroid - but this still remains impossible. To clear it up - high androgenic affinity does not mean a better performance gain... and the highest anabolic ratio does not always mean the best performance steroid either. Like big k.l.g said, it can be misleading if you misinterpret the info. BTW - higher androgenic steroids can lead to more undesirable results like BPH...

    The therapeutic index (TI) is a little easier to understand... but I am not sure where to get those numbers off the Net...

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    so proverone is stronge as deca ?????????????

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    Nope.

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    I actually find the index very useful and for the most part accurate with the results we get from the various substances if we look closely at their net effects on muscle gain.The therapeutic index is into those numbers as well.
    For example,800mg/ew of deca would give the same anabolic effect as 1000mg/ew of test or 200mg of tren .Or 45mg/ed of winstrol or anadrol .
    If you take out the whole water retention,estrogenic and androgenic sides and consider the length of use for each it makes a lot of sense.

    The ones i find hard to believe would be halo (too high) and turinabol (ana/andro =53/6 too low).
    This would mean that in order to get the same anabolic effect as 1000mg/ew of test you'd only have to take 7,5mg/ed( ! ) of halo or as high as 269mg/ed ( ! ) of turinabol .

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    I think the majority are misleading. Eg: 500mg Tren should give an individual 5 times the muscle gains as the same amount of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    I think the majority are misleading. Eg: 500mg Tren should give an individual 5 times the muscle gains as the same amount of test.
    Agreed. Like anavar being more anabolic than drol??

    Halotestin :
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:1,900/850
    Oh yea!!!!!!!!

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    You forgot Cheque drops tho

    Detection Time: Immediate (only)
    Androgenic:Anabolic Ratio: 250:590

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    I dont even care, i know what compunds i use and they are all good baby
    I dont like things like this because they can be very wrong and then it f-u-c-k-s your cycle.

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    Ha! Methyltrienolone has an A:A ratio of 12000+/6000+

    I win

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    sure this thread is old, but what they hey...
    Anavar has an anabolic /androgenic ratio of 10:1 compared to test which has 100:100 this was posted in a medical journal that was doing researc on burn victims. additionally dBol is 2x as strong as test. i think the ratios are terribly flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by projekt
    sure this thread is old, but what they hey...
    Anavar has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 10:1 compared to test which has 100:100 this was posted in a medical journal that was doing researc on burn victims. additionally dBol is 2x as strong as test. i think the ratios are terribly flawed.
    So do i. Besides, i think some ppl react to certain things better. I know guys whi say nadrolone is better than test, and there are guys that say test is beter than nandy. Just depends sometimes.

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    Chemistry is chemistry. Chemistry and individual body homeostasis is all together another story. Our genetic make-up is what sets the tone for, well, uhh, everything.

    I do want to point out recent data suggest that premature babies, once grown, or...well also when they are developing, have more chronic health issues than a 'full term' baby.

    For example...I am the youngest of seven kids in our family. I was born at 30 weeks wei***ng in at 3lbs. (38 to 41 weeks is considered 'term') In those days...yes I'm old...an event such as that, the infant mortality rate was 90% or more.

    I have many 'overactive' auto immune disorders.

    1. Psoriasis (since college)- scalp and back (UVA and steroid creams keep it at bay)
    2. Ulcerative Colitis Dx '99 - Total colectomy in 2005 w/J-pouch re-construction. YEP, no colon fellas!! And no ostomy bag either!!
    3. Graves Disease 2007 - Fiinally have a TSH of 10 (was 0, then to 95 in three months)
    4. Akilosing Spondolitis ... currently developing, we think.

    Research, research, and research. Find a doc that will listen, not prescribe, just listen. It's expensive to do such a venture...office consults are $200 to $400 bucks...but if you schedule an annual physical...the costs could be less.

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    It's 2 AM and I'm not sure that last post made sense, but my point is, trial and error comes into play. You will find some compounds will work well for some, but does zilch for others.

    There are so many factors to consider and figure into the grand plan for a cycle, that one needs to learn more about chemistry. I am thankful for the moderators and fellow bodybuilders who advise the best they can.

    Just be smart and when asking for advice on a product or compound...what's good for one, may not work as well for you. Don't blame the messenger...it takes a while to figure out what works...and boy, when you do...you'll know it!

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