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    How To Inject

    How to Inject From Another Site

    How To Inject Steroids (HCG and HGH are different)
    All oil based and water based anabolic steroids should be taken intramuscularly. This means the shot must penetrate the skin and subcutaneous tissue to enter the muscle itself. Intramuscular injections are used when prompt absorption is desired, when larger doses are needed than can be given cutaneously or when a drug is too irritating to be given subcutaneously. The common sites for in tramuscular injectons include the buttock, lateral side of the thigh, and the deltoid region of the arm. Muscles in these areas, especially the gluteal muscles in the buttock, are fairly thick. Because of the large number of muscle fibers and extensive fascia, (fascia is a type of connective tissue that surrounds and separates muscles) the drug has a large surface area for absorption. Absorption is further promoted by the extensive blood supply to muscles. Ideally, intramuscular injections should be given deep within the muscle and away from major nerves and blood vessels.

    The best site for steroid injections is in the gluteus medius muscle which is located in the upper outer quadrant of the buttock. The iliac crest serves as a landmark for this quadrant. The spot for an injection in an adult is usually to 7 1/2 centimeters (2 to 3 inches) below the iliac crest. The iliac crest is the top of the pelvic girdle on the posterior (back) side. You can find the iliac crest by feeling the uppermost bony area above each gluteal muscle. The upper outer quadrant is chosen because the muscle in this area is quite thick and has few nerves. The probability of injecting the drug into a blood vessel is remote in this area. Injecting here reduces the chance of injury to the sciatic nerve which runs through the lower and middle area of the buttock. It controls the posterior of each thigh and the entire leg from the knee down. If an injection is too close to this nerve or actually hits it, extreme pain and temporary paralysis can be felt in these areas. This is especially undesirable and warrants staying as far away from this area as possible.

    Three Acceptable Sites for Intramuscular Injections are Shown:


    A) Buttocks



    B) Lateral Surface of the Thigh



    C) Deltoid Region





    If the gluteal region cannot be injected for some reason, the second choice would be the lateral portion of the thigh. Usually, intramuscular injections in the thigh are only indicated for infants and children. The vastus lateralis muscle is the only area of the thigh that should be injected intramuscularly. This site is determined by using the knee and the greater trochanter of the femur as landmarks. The greater trochanter is the bony area that you can feel where the femur joins the pelvic girdle. The mid portion of the muscle is located by measuring the handbreadth above the knee and the handbreadth below the greater trochanter. Injecting into the front of the thigh or inside of the thigh is extremely unwise. These areas contain nerves as well as a number of blood vessels.

    What Needles to Use?
    It is important to choose the proper syringe for the administration of injectable anabolic steroids . The principle components of a syringe include a cylindrical barrel to one end of which a hollow needle is attached, and a close fitting plunger. The most acceptable syringe for injecting anabolic steroids is a 22 gauge 1 1/2" or 23 gauge 1" apparatus with a 3 cc case. This length allows for penetration to reach deep inside the muscle tissue. Shorter needles, 5/8" or 1/2" are usually not sufficient for intramuscular injections and occasionally leave a portion of the Injection in a subcutaneous area which will cause a swell between the skin and muscle as well as impaired absorption. The gauge size of a syringe represents the needle's diameter. The lower the gauge number, the wider. A 27 gauge needle is very thin. An 18 gauge is quite wide; it is often referred to as a cannon. Both 22 and 23 gauge needles are not so large that they are difficult to insert, yet are large enough for solutions to easily be propelled through them.

    Glute injections: 23 gauge 1.5 inch long needles will do
    Thigh injections: 25 gauge 1 inch long needles will do
    Deltoid injections: 25 gauge 1 inch long needles will do.

    Injection Procedures:
    There are a number of steps that should be understood in order to complete a safe and proper intramuscular injection. First off, before handling any needles or vials, the user should take a thorough shower. Next, an alcohol swab should be used to clean the injection site and another alcohol swab should be used to clean the rubber stopper on top of the vial which will be drawn from. Then, take a brand new syringe out of its wrapper, remove its plastic top, draw about 2 ccs of air into it and insert it into the vial. Inject this air into the vial; this creates pressure within the vial and makes it easier to draw out oil based preparations. Then, turn the vial upside-down and slowly draw out the oil until you have overdrawn at least 1/4 cc. For example, if someone were to take an injection of 1 cc, they should pull out approximately 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 ccs of liquid, then tap the side of the case to help get the air bubbles that were drawn into the syringe to come to the top. At that point, the excess 1/4 to 1/2 cc could be injected back into the vial and the needle removed. Then, hold the syringe needle-side-up and continue to tap it to encourage all the air bubbles to come to the top of the syringe. Now, take another clean syringe, remove it from its sterile package and unscrew the needle from the syringe. Exchange the brand new needle for the one that has just been injected into the stopper. By using two needles for every injection, you can take advantage of using the full sharpness of the pin. The needle does suffer some dulling when it is pushed through the firm rubber stopper on a vial. It is important not to touch this needle before the injection. It should not come into contact with a counter top, your fingers, nor should it be cleaned with alcohol. This needle is sterile and should not be touched. At this point, once again swab the injection site with alcohol, then press the stopper of the syringe holding it needle-side-up, until the slight air bubbles that are at the top are pressed out. Once a bead of oil has appeared at the top of the needle, allow it run down the surface of the needle which provides lubrication. At this time, take the syringe and hold it like a dart. Use the other hand to stretch the skin at the injection site and simply push the sharp clean needle in. After inserting it deep into the muscle, pull back on the stopper for a few seconds to make sure it does not fill up with blood which would indicate that the needle had been injected into a blood vessel. Providing there is no blood present in the syringe, slowly press the stopper down until all the oil is injected. Then, quickly pull the needle out and take another alcohol swab and press firmly on the injection site. This will minimize bleeding, if there is any, and by firmly pressing on the injection site and slightly massaging it, some of the soreness may be eliminated. It is important that the liquid is not injected too quickly as this causes more pain at the site during the injection and in the proceeding days. After this procedure has been completed, return the plastic caps to shield the needles and make sure they are discarded properly. To avoid discomfort and excessive scar tissue at the injection site, it is not wise to inject more than 2 ccs of solution per shot. It is also not prudent to use the same injection site more than twice a week (once a week is preferred).

    Hints for Injections:
    1) Always warm up the vial or ampule to body temperature before injection. You can do that by placing it under your arm for about five minutes or placing the amp in warm water. DO NOT MICROWAVE.
    2) Just before injection push the plunger to allow a drop of liquid to form on the end of the needle and let it run down the needle by holding it upside down. That lets the oil coat the needle and give it a bit more lubrication through the skin and muscle.
    3) Some people have reported rubbing Viatamin E on the injection site aids in recovery.
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    Last edited by Kale; 05-11-2008 at 03:05 AM.
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    Good Post

    Excellent info for any first time and seasoned injector
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    good post kale. i wish alot of newbies would read this so they can learn the proper injection techniques and be safe

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    A steady hand reduce post injection pain...

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    excellent post unfortunately i read it AFTER my 1st injection lol

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    Nice post. If only we could get the noobies to read it! LOL.
    Thanks for giving us something to send them too.

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    Great post!, I wish I new half of this stuff last week! *limps away*

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    What a coincedence, i was just looking at this site today!!

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    Very nice. This should really help the new guys like myself, though I must say there is nothing better than experience to actually get comfortable and proficient at the whole process. Should make this a sticky, good stuff.

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    great post man...i think i'll stick to the gluteus LOL

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    its so strange that they got a pic of me with no skin. Amazing lol

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    man that guy is HUGE...his skin is soooo thin you cant even see it.

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    funny looking skinless guy picture.. he looks like a monster. Very great info, injecting it in the Gluteus medius muscle..

    hey does applying ice before injecting anything lessen he pain? who have tried this method before?

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    Good post, i still believe that the ventro gluteal muscle is the best place for an IM injection, i posted on this only yesterday, and it's accepted technique for 100% of the medical proffesion, not having a pop at you kale, just saying that Vgluteal can handle 3ml and there's even less nerves and veins to hit there than dorsal/medial.

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    geat post should try to keep near the top

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    kale top post mate its give me plenty of info for when its my first injection

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    i just started my cycle of hgh, am injecting into my belly but found after a few its getting sore and there is a slight lump there any tips??
    thanks

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    what is wrong with injecting in the middle of the thigh? seems pretty beefy and is where ive been putting mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripped1114 View Post
    i just started my cycle of hgh, am injecting into my belly but found after a few its getting sore and there is a slight lump there any tips??
    thanks
    You need to move it around mate dont hit the same spot in the belly all the time

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    Great post!

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    top post

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    one more thing to add. after pulling the needle out after injecting do whats called a z track by pull the skin to the side. this helps with the bleeding and oil coming out of the injection site. kind of like closing off the hole for a little bit.

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    I follow your instructions to the tea! But When I inject some of the steroid (oil) comes back out where I have injected... is there something I can do to stop this? FYI: I inject in the bottom, with a needle that is 1" long.

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    Needle might not be long enough to inject far enough into the muscle, try using a longer needle or applying pressure directly immediately after removal of the needle

    Thanks for the post Kale, btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmah View Post
    I follow your instructions to the tea! But When I inject some of the steroid (oil) comes back out where I have injected... is there something I can do to stop this? FYI: I inject in the bottom, with a needle that is 1" long.
    also try injecting slower, give the oil time to absorb, and wait a few seconds before extracting the needle.

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    I would have to say that I make that guy in the cartoon drawing look pretty small. I'm quite sure I could take him.

    Also, they stopped selling F'n syringes in this POS town I live in with my gf. So I've been using 30 gauge 1/2" needles! I initially thought that they would suck and was just going to use the couple I had laying around until I got into the city to get some more.

    However, aside from it taking forever to preload them from the satchets, they work great on the outside lateral portion of the thigh. My fat can't be more than an 1/8" there so I just give it a good jab, keep pressing deep into the muscle, and voila. They are very comforterable to use as well, but I'm not recommending them. I think they work well with me because my legs carry 0 fat.

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    ^yes injecting at about 30 seconds per ml reduces pip drastically!
    Btw great post Kale, I agree with the glute being the best site.

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    Good post, and good pic's, wish i was that big..lol
    Good one mate

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    very good post

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    I usally get a hell of a pain of i inject that high on the glute... so i usally do it a bit lower

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    Bumping this to the top, good info for the virgin and non experienced users to needles.

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    Hgh injection >>>

    if im looking to get more atletic and gain some muscle mass and tone...what places besides the stomach fat can be used for injecting?

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    Good post m8, just read it again even tho I've read it b4

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    GREAT POST!
    This will help me with my first cycle

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    Where to Inject HGH

    I am on an HGH cycle and have been injecting in my stomach. I have heard from two different friends that visited two different doctors that injecting into fat hinders the HGH b/c we carry estrogen in our fat that blocks it. Therefore the preferred injection site for optimal results is in the shoulder. Is this true?
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    i been hittin the main muscle in my thigh,, so on the diagram it would be the biggest strand in that area. Why is that part not good spot?

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    What is the problem with injecting steroids in the subcutaneous tissue? What is the difference, will it be absorbed more rapidly or more slowly? It will for sure get into your system so what would be the difference? THANKS!

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    Great posting

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