Advanced offseason bulk cycle.. Advanced juice heads please comment!

[roidneedles]

Guys, I'm starting my off season bulk soon here and would like opinions. I plan on jumping right into my pre contest cycle after this cuz I will be competing.

Stats: 23 yrs old
5'10"
210lbs
<10% bf. have striations but am not super ripped.
I can post pics if everyone is interested.
Been bodybuilding for about 6 yrs. cycling for about 4
Past compounds ran. Test, tren , deca , npp, dbol , adrol, tbol, and some prohormones.
Highest doses ran. Test 750mg, tren 400mg, deca 500mg, dbol40mg, npp 450mg.
Longest cycle 12 wks. Ran pct for every cycle but have been considering staying on test yr round. Will see how my contest goes. I get brutal sides from pct drugs for some reason. Severe depression, anxiety mostly mental sides.

My cycle.
Wk1-4 test e 500mg/ wk
Wk 4-20 test e 1,250mg/wk
Wk 1-4 tne 500mg/ wk
Wk 1-4 dbol 50mg/ day
Wk1-4 adol50mg/ day
Wk 1-20 eq 600mg/wk
Wk 1-4, 8-12, 16-20 novo rapid 5 iu post workout
Wk 1-4, 8-12, 16-20 novolin r 2 iu before meals on m/w/f
Wk 1-4, 8-12, 16-20 igf lr3 50mcg daily injected into trained muscle post workout.
Cjc-1295 no Dac 100mcg 3x daily
Ghrp-6 200mcg 3x daily

That's what I have currently. I feel It need work tho.. Questions.
Should I save one of the orals for the end of the cycle?
Is my igf-1lr3 look good?
Will that be enough eg? Running it instead of deca for the appetite. I will be needed it haha.
And please someone help with my insulin regimen.
Any other advice at all please share I want this to go as smooth as possible. I have everything on hand and am starting as soon as I get it right.
Thanks brothers

[oscarjones]

I think you listed the weeks a little bit off... Should look something like this:

Weeks 1-4
Weeks 5-8
Weeks 9-12
Weeks 13-16
Weeks 17-20

How are you using TNE? I'm assuming you workout 5 days/week and pinning 100mg pre-workout? If it were me, I'd split up the Adrol and Dbol , save one for weeks 9-12. With the TNE pre-workout and Dbol you'll get a good enough pump.

[roidneedles]

I think you listed the weeks a little bit off... Should look something like this:

Weeks 1-4
Weeks 5-8
Weeks 9-12
Weeks 13-16
Weeks 17-20

How are you using TNE? I'm assuming you workout 5 days/week and pinning 100mg pre-workout? If it were me, I'd split up the Adrol and Dbol , save one for weeks 9-12. With the TNE pre-workout and Dbol you'll get a good enough pump.

Yea I fcked up the weeks. I'm using tne 100mg preworkout yes 5 days/wk. the only reason I was considering taking dbol and drol was cuz I was avisid this by a "guru" but I think ill feel like a pile of shit with all those drugs the first 4 wks hasn't one else have experience running the two together supposed to be "synergistic"

[roidneedles]

My theory here is to gain as much as possible the first 6 wks and then let the gains set in for the rest of the cycle with the eq if that makes sense. I
Might throw in hgh instead of the pepetides but I will see I think the peps will be enough. I would only run growth at 4-5iu if I did switch it with the peps

[oscarjones]

Well, it's only 50mg of Adrol... You're liver shouldn't hate you TOO much...

Then again, I'd still split them, and increase the Adrol to 100mg during the second or third month. You may want a little extra kick down the road.

HGH > Peptides, imo. Good luck!

[fit2bOld]

Post a pic. I will not comment til I see what you got going on.

[BG]

Wheres the gh ???

[BG]

Less is more.

[roidneedles]

Wheres the gh ???

U think I need it? Peps vs. 4iu gh which would
Be better

[roidneedles]

Less is more.

As far as doses or drugs? If u think about it it's no that much actual gear for 12 wks of the cycle it's just 1250 test and 600eq of gear. Wks 1-4 test 1000, eq 600, dbol 50mg. Might throw in anadrol half way thru cycle depending on how things are going. I need advice on the insulin .. Is the novolin r over kill? Or just stick with the novo rapid pwo? Again I was advised this by my trainer to use 2iu novolin r before each meal m/w/f

[kelkel]

Post a pic. I will not comment til I see what you got going on.

U think I need it? Peps vs. 4iu gh which would
Be better

No clue what you "might" need. Like fit said, hard to comment without knowing what we're working with. Way to many younger guys do far more aas than they really need, hence the hesitation.

[roidneedles]

No clue what you "might" need. Like fit said, hard to comment without knowing what we're working with. Way to many younger guys do far more aas than they really need, hence the hesitation.

Did I ask u what I "might" need?ha Are u hesitating or me? Idk what u mean here. I plan my cycles and then start them
But I ALWAYS end up changing something accordin to
How I'm feeling and how my gains are. why I said "might". I'm using a common. Amount of gear for an advanced user like myself so I'm not using far more aas then I need.. Test, eg, dbol pretty simple. If anything I need help with the insulin . Maybe I should post that in the insulin threads.

[roidneedles]

Trust me I run as little as possible. I don't see much gains from 750mg of test anymore idk if it's cuz I've ran too many cycles or what but last time I ran test at 750 and dbol at 50mg I hardly noticed it. Maybe my gear was underdosed but couldn't have been that much.

Idk how there's guys who can take 500mg of test and blow up they're lucky! My first cycle yes but everyone after just seems like I don't get near the effect so that means up to dose