due to unavailability of bac water for hcg can i use below ?

**cigarbaba** · 02-07-2016, 11:15 AM

hi
as the title says . i cannot find it local market.

all the bac water that i have is the 1ml that comes with 5000 iu of pregnyl.

i want to use hcg to boost my t levels which are well below the absolute low range to see if i am primary or secondary.

now can i reconstitue 5000iu in 1ml and then inject only 10 units of it using bd 30 guage insuline syringe ? thats realy tiny amount of liquied but it would contain 500iu of hcg?
or is there a specific density ratio of iu of hcg per ml >

alternativley i can fill 10 units of 1cc (1/10th by volume) using hcg reconsituted with bac water and keep all syringes refrigirated and before use further dilute it with normal "distlled water for injections" to increase the amount of volume (though ius will be same )..

**clarky.** · 02-07-2016, 02:06 PM

Post why you have low T in the trt section with some blood work if you can you will get great advice and the best help there.

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**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-07-2016, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by cigarbaba

all the bac water that i have is the 1ml that comes with 5000 iu of pregnyl.

That is not bacteriostatic water.
That water is for one time use.

**Mp859** · 02-07-2016, 08:10 PM

Pretty sure pregnyl comes with sodium chloride Use google, bac water is widely available

**Bio-Active** · 02-07-2016, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

Pretty sure pregnyl comes with sodium chloride Use google, bac water is widely available

correct it comes with solvent for one time use. Just make your own bac water

**Bonaparte** · 02-07-2016, 11:38 PM

You can tell whether you are primary or secondary hypogonadal by blood work. Are your gonadotropins (LH and FSH) high or low?

**Ashop** · 02-08-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by cigarbaba

hi
as the title says . i cannot find it local market.

all the bac water that i have is the 1ml that comes with 5000 iu of pregnyl.

i want to use hcg to boost my t levels which are well below the absolute low range to see if i am primary or secondary.

now can i reconstitue 5000iu in 1ml and then inject only 10 units of it using bd 30 guage insuline syringe ? thats realy tiny amount of liquied but it would contain 500iu of hcg?
or is there a specific density ratio of iu of hcg per ml >

alternativley i can fill 10 units of 1cc (1/10th by volume) using hcg reconsituted with bac water and keep all syringes refrigirated and before use further dilute it with normal "distlled water for injections" to increase the amount of volume (though ius will be same )..

Find some BAC WATER online. It will keep your HGH preserved much longer (30 days +) than just plain sterile water (24-48hrs)

**cigarbaba** · 02-14-2016, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by ALIN

Find some BAC WATER online. It will keep your HGH preserved much longer (30 days +) than just plain sterile water (24-48hrs)

hi
i am living in third world country.
this bacteriostatic water thingy is neither available locally in medical shops nor in some online pharmacy sites.
and i do not want to imort it from other country . so all suggestion about ordering it online have no value in my case ..

can i use below vitamin b injection as it contains benzyl alcohol to dilute it and make 500 iu injections and store them in insuline syringe for few weeks (3-4) ?

BEJECTAL [Benzyl Alcohol:0.9mg/ml, Nicotinamide:75mg/ml, Pyridoxine:5mg/ml, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2):2mg/ml, Sodium Pantothenate:5mg/ml, Thiamine HCl (Vitamin B1):10mg/ml] Inf 10ml

second option available to me is to purchase benzyl acohol ( but it is only available in 2.5 Litre packing and it costs 70 USD equivalent ) // which certainly is prphibitve .

**cigarbaba** · 02-14-2016, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

You can tell whether you are primary or secondary hypogonadal by blood work. Are your gonadotropins (LH and FSH) high or low?

Tests Results Reference Range

LH 5.63 mIU /mL 1.7 - 8.6
FSH 3.77 mIU / mL 1.5 - 12.4
Estradiol 33.53 pg / ml 7.63 - 42.6
Testosterone 3.04 ng / ml 3.3 - 8.05

**cigarbaba** · 02-14-2016, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mp859

Pretty sure pregnyl comes with sodium chloride Use google, bac water is widely available

you are correct .its just sodium chloride not with benzyl alcholol..

**Bonaparte** · 02-14-2016, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by cigarbaba

Tests Results Reference Range

LH 5.63 mIU /mL 1.7 - 8.6
FSH 3.77 mIU / mL 1.5 - 12.4
Estradiol 33.53 pg / ml 7.63 - 42.6
Testosterone 3.04 ng / ml 3.3 - 8.05

Your problem is mostly with the testes. Just try a good PCT and reassess 6 weeks later.
The HCG won't help.

And your T levels are only a little below the designated "low" range.

**NACH3** · 02-14-2016, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Your problem is mostly with the testes. Just try a good PCT and reassess 6 weeks later.
The HCG won't help.

And your T levels are only a little below the designated "low" range.

Bona, being primary hypogonadal myself... I wasn't sure if you meant this or not... Are you saying if 'primary' hypogonadal HCG isn't necessary for HRT protocol? Thx

**MrFreshmaker** · 02-14-2016, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Bona, being primary hypogonadal myself... I wasn't sure if you meant this or not... Are you saying if 'primary' hypogonadal HCG isn't necessary for HRT protocol? Thx

Sorry for jumping in place of Bona,but i think he said it won't help in recovery(raising test levels),not on hrt!!

**Bonaparte** · 02-14-2016, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by MrFreshmaker

Sorry for jumping in place of Bona,but i think he said it won't help in recovery(raising test levels),not on hrt!!

Correct. I meant that it isn't needed in the OP's situation.

Originally Posted by NACH3

Bona, being primary hypogonadal myself... I wasn't sure if you meant this or not... Are you saying if 'primary' hypogonadal HCG isn't necessary for HRT protocol? Thx

I personally don't use HCG for HRT. I don't much care about my balls.

**NACH3** · 02-14-2016, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Correct. I meant that it isn't needed in the OP's situation.

I personally don't use HCG for HRT. I don't much care about my balls.

Edit** you answered what I had previously asked again lol Thx Bona!

**bigdil511** · 02-14-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Correct. I meant that it isn't needed in the OP's situation. I personally don't use HCG for HRT. I don't much care about my balls.

Me either they still fit in the wife's mouth.

**cigarbaba** · 02-15-2016, 09:49 AM

can i use below vitamin b injection as it contains benzyl alcohol to dilute it and make 500 iu injections and store them in insuline syringe for few weeks (3-4) ?

BEJECTAL [Benzyl Alcohol:0.9mg/ml, Nicotinamide:75mg/ml, Pyridoxine:5mg/ml, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2):2mg/ml, Sodium Pantothenate:5mg/ml, Thiamine HCl (Vitamin B1):10mg/ml] Inf 10ml

second option available to me is to purchase benzyl acohol ( but it is only available in 2.5 Litre packing and it costs 70 USD equivalent ) // which certainly is prphibitve .

**Juced_porkchop** · 02-15-2016, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I personally don't use HCG for HRT. I don't much care about my balls.

Same here... screw it. but i do reg some added DHEA and/or pregnenolone to regimen.

**cigarbaba** · 02-16-2016, 09:18 AM

can i use below vitamin b injection as it contains benzyl alcohol to dilute it and make 500 iu injections and store them in insuline syringe for few weeks (3-4) ?

BEJECTAL [Benzyl Alcohol:0.9mg/ml, Nicotinamide:75mg/ml, Pyridoxine:5mg/ml, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2):2mg/ml, Sodium Pantothenate:5mg/ml, Thiamine HCl (Vitamin B1):10mg/ml] Inf 10ml

second option available to me is to purchase benzyl acohol ( but it is only available in 2.5 Litre packing and it costs 70 USD equivalent ) // which certainly is prphibitve .

**cigarbaba** · 02-20-2016, 11:07 AM

today i bought 2.5 Liter Benzyl Alcohol made by merk germany 99.0 % bp eu etc pharma grade..

i took 4.5 units (using 1ml bd insule syringe .. filled it upto first two and a half lines .. as tehre are 5 lines for every 10units mark on syringe )of benzyl alcohol and mixed it with 5ml of sterile water for injection..
then i discarded 2.5 ml of this mixture and mixed the remaining 2.5ml with the hcg 5000 iu powder..

this gives 1000 IU per mL ..
using insulin syringe i filled upto 25 marks (this is quarter of ml and should contain 1000/4=250 IU of hcg) and injected it subq.

1: did i diluted to correct strength ?
2: i used normal sterile water for injection .. is it good or should i mix it with sterile water containing .9 % sodium chloride infusion bp ?

**Mr.BB** · 02-20-2016, 02:13 PM

Seems like you made your testis happy lol

I use the same dilution on 5000ui HCG pregnyl.

**cigarbaba** · 03-03-2016, 12:04 PM

What is best for diy bacteriostatic water amongst below options?
1; mixing benzyl alcohol with normal distilled water for injection?

2; or mix benzyl alcohol with distilled water that contains 0.9% sodium chloride?

**cigarbaba** · 03-07-2016, 01:58 PM

Any idea which water is good to be mixed with benzyl alcohol

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 03-07-2016, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by cigarbaba

Any idea which water is good to be mixed with benzyl alcohol

mix benzyl alcohol with distilled water that contains 0.9% sodium chloride

**cigarbaba** · 03-08-2016, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

mix benzyl alcohol with distilled water that contains 0.9% sodium chloride

I think my replies containing hyperlinks are deleted.

Can u use the 25 ml saline solution BP 0.9% sodium chloride by Otsuka pakistan? My previous replies contained link to it.
But googing for above key keywords will bring it.