Anabolics
Search More Than 6,000,000 Posts
Results 1 to 14 of 14
Like Tree7Likes
  • 5 Post By Back In Black
  • 2 Post By Back In Black

Thread: Test E 500 mg. week, my second cycle

  1. #1
    Caesar Avgvstvs's Avatar
    Caesar Avgvstvs is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    10

    Test E 500 mg. week, my second cycle

    Hi guys!

    I'm 39 and I'm planning to start my second cycle.
    Test cycle: 8 weeks
    • Testoviron depot (test enanthate): 500 mg/week for 8 weeks
    • Adex: 2 mg/week for 8 weeks
    • HCG: 500 IU twice a week for 4 weeks starting from week 5.


    PCT: 6 weeks starting from the week following the last test shot.
    • Adex: 6 weeks (1.5 mg for 3 weeks and 1 mg for the last 3 weeks)
    • HCG: 500 IU twice a week for 2 weeks.


    Supplements:
    • omega3
    • omega6
    • Zinc
    • green tea
    • vitamins A, C, E.


    My numbers:
    39 years old,
    height: 186 cm.
    weight: 84 kg.
    body fat: 14%
    body type: ectomorph
    I have a clean diet.

    My goal is to develop my back, shoulders, legs, and reduce waist if possible.
    So what do u think about this cycle?
    Should I use a DHT inhibitor for such a high test dosage?
    Last edited by Caesar Avgvstvs; 07-31-2017 at 06:14 PM.

  2. #2
    Back In Black's Avatar
    Back In Black is online now Beach Bodybuilder - HOF
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    16,810
    It's a bit of a mess. I dread to think how badly run your first cycle was.

    Run test longer
    Run hcg longer
    AI dose is likely way too high
    Pct badly timed and completely the wrong compounds.

    Read this, it explains all

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

  3. #3
    songdog's Avatar
    songdog is online now ARs TOP DOG ~ MONITOR ~
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    13,047
    I agree with the above bro!

  4. #4
    PT1982's Avatar
    PT1982 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Home of the Braves
    Posts
    1,466
    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    It's a bit of a mess. I dread to think how badly run your first cycle was.

    Run test longer
    Run hcg longer
    AI dose is likely way too high
    Pct badly timed and completely the wrong compounds.

    Read this, it explains all

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
    I was going to say this same thing. He nailed it. Test ran longer, lower the armidex dose, and no armidex during pct. Hcg throughout testosterone cycle, not on pct.

    You want your body to be in as normal as possible throughout the process, so hcg is important during the cycle (not including pct) to stimulate LH in hopes your testicles stay full and still properly function. Transitioning into pct, allow your body to do the work and let the serms enable it to happen. Good luck

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    6,251
    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Avgvstvs View Post
    Hi guys!

    I'm 39 and I'm planning to start my second cycle.
    Test cycle: 8 weeks
    • Testoviron depot (test enanthate): 500 mg/week for 8 weeks
    • Adex: 2 mg/week for 8 weeks
    • HCG: 500 IU twice a week for 4 weeks starting from week 5.


    PCT: 6 weeks starting from the week following the last test shot.
    • Adex: 6 weeks (1.5 mg for 3 weeks and 1 mg for the last 3 weeks)
    • HCG: 500 IU twice a week for 2 weeks.


    Supplements:
    • omega3
    • omega6
    • Zinc
    • green tea
    • vitamins A, C, E.


    My numbers:
    39 years old,
    height: 186 cm.
    weight: 84 kg.
    body fat: 14%
    body type: ectomorph
    I have a clean diet.

    My goal is to develop my back, shoulders, legs, and reduce waist if possible.
    So what do u think about this cycle?
    Should I use a DHT inhibitor for such a high test dosage?
    Welcome to the forum. Read BIB's post.

  6. #6
    Caesar Avgvstvs's Avatar
    Caesar Avgvstvs is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    10
    Thanks for your answers guys.
    I agree with you regarding to the length of the cycle, so I'll do it for 10 weeks:
    Test E cycle
    - weeks 1 to 6: 250 mg twice a week
    - weeks 6 to 10: 125 mg twice a week
    I don't want to use such a high test dosage (500 mg.) for ten weeks in my second cycle.
    Regarding to HCG , I'll use it during the cycle.
    About Adex... I still want to give a try to my first approach. There's a theory behind this, let me elaborate, and then let me tell you what I did in my first cycle:
    I've read lot of articles (most of them from the ncbi database). Adex, like HCG and Clomid are used to treat hypogonadism, but the only drug approved by doctors, as far as I know, is HCG.
    At the end of the cycle, the HPTA axis is shutdown because of the excess of testosterone and/or estrogen.
    Three to four weeks, after the last test shot, testosterone levels fall below the normal levels for a healthy man. The problem is that without test and with high estrogen levels, the HPTA won't start unless you reduce the estrogen. According to doctor Rand McClain, as soon as the HPTA detects the fall in test levels it will start again naturally and soon enough to correct the hormonal imbalance. So, why should I use clomid or nolva if adex is, by far, the best controlling estrogen? Also 2 mg. of adex per week is a very low dosage according with some studies that I've read. There should be no problem with total estrogen suppression, cholesterol, etc.

    Here is my PCT experience with a 10 weeks cycle of just 250 mg week of test e.
    During the cycle I've used 1.5 mg./week of Adex and HCG 500 IU twice a week
    My PCT started the week after the last test shoot, and the length were three weeks using the same amount of Adex.

    My results:
    During cycle I felt awesome, my shoulders got HUGE, and I went from 84 kg. to 88 kg. (eat a lot with a clean diet)
    During PCT I felt the same as in the cycle.

    Negative symptoms that I've experienced after PCT (4th week after the last test shot)
    - very, very slightly (minimal) estrogen rebound (nothing to be worried about)
    - change in my libido that lasts two weeks (that's normal because I was high on test)
    - the urgency to pee and just a few drops, lasts two weeks

    I'm pretty satisfied with these results guys, why should I add two more drugs to my cycle (clomid, nolva)?

    Remember, this is only a testosterone enanthate cycle.
    Last edited by Caesar Avgvstvs; 08-02-2017 at 08:24 PM.

  7. #7
    Cuz's Avatar
    Cuz
    Cuz is online now Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    118 degrees north
    Posts
    4,660
    2nd cycle goes something like this

    Test e 250x2 pw
    Adex .25 mg eod starting dose you may require more
    Hcg needs to be run during cycle not in pct

    Pct will consist of clomid and nolvadex , read the pinned stickies all you need to know to get staighten d out

  8. #8
    Back In Black's Avatar
    Back In Black is online now Beach Bodybuilder - HOF
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    16,810
    Did you really read the link I gave and understand it?!?!

    good luck is all I can say. All the best.
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

  9. #9
    kelkel's Avatar
    kelkel is offline HRT Specialist ~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ No Source Checks
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    East Coast Dungeon
    Posts
    24,435
    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Did you really read the link I gave and understand it?!?!

    good luck is all I can say. All the best.

    Obviously not. Caesar re-read the link you were given and follow it. Don't try to make it up on your own please. And I'm still waiting to see a pct plan. What you're listing is not pct.
    -*- NO SOURCE CHECKS -*-

  10. #10
    Caesar Avgvstvs's Avatar
    Caesar Avgvstvs is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    10
    Thanks for the links guys, this is my cycle and PCT revisited, as I said, I don't want to use 500 mg of test for ten weeks in my second cycle, I'm just using more test than in my previous cycle.

    week| Testoviron (test e) | Adex | HCG
    1 | 250 twice/week | 2 mg/week |
    2 | 250 twice/week | 2 mg/week |
    3 | 250 twice/week | 2 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    4 | 250 twice/week | 2 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    5 | 250 twice/week | 2 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    6 | 250 twice/week | 2 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    7 | 125 twice/week | 1.5 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    8 | 125 twice/week | 1.5 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    9 | 125 twice/week | 1.5 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week
    10 | 125 twice/week | 1.5 mg/week | 500 IU/twice week

    PCT (two weeks after the end of the cycle):
    -Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20
    -Clomid: 75/50/50/50
    Also I'll taper of adex at 1 mg/week until PCT starts.

    Regarding to DHT, three weeks after the end of my first cycle (250 mg/week test e for 10 weeks) I've experienced a kind of BHP symptom, the urgency to pee just for a few drops. Sometimes I've to wait a minute or two until the pee starts. This symptom lasted about two weeks.

    Is this a common symptom during/after cycle? (By the way I didn't do blood tests for my first cycle, for the second I'll do it).
    Should I use finasteride on cycle (maybe a low dosage)?
    Are there a natural alternative to avoid these symptoms? I've read that zinc, omega fatty acids and green tea are good choices, what do u think about?
    Last edited by Caesar Avgvstvs; 08-06-2017 at 01:33 PM.

  11. #11
    Eduke93's Avatar
    Eduke93 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    75
    Dude, you need to do some research.

    Cycle is to short, and your pct is non existent. Adex wont help.

  12. #12
    Back In Black's Avatar
    Back In Black is online now Beach Bodybuilder - HOF
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    16,810
    Quote Originally Posted by Eduke93 View Post
    Dude, you need to do some research.

    Cycle is to short, and your pct is non existent. Adex wont help.
    Actually, his PCT is probably the only good thing about his cycle.
    Cuz and Eduke93 like this.
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

  13. #13
    Caesar Avgvstvs's Avatar
    Caesar Avgvstvs is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Actually, his PCT is probably the only good thing about his cycle.
    I've read the link u suggested (btw excellent post ). It seems that I will use less test and more adex than suggested for a newbie cycle. Maybe I'll adjust the test dosage based on my body response. This is my second cycle, I prefer to be cautious.

  14. #14
    geezuschrist's Avatar
    geezuschrist is online now Associate Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    265
    Literally just do what it says in the my first cycle sticky. I don't know why you're even asking questions it's simple!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •