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    First cycle advice! Please help!!

    I am 34 yrs old and have been competitive bodybuilder for about 15 yrs.
    I won a natural competition and placed 2nd, 3rd for a several times.
    My stats are:
    5'7", 190lbs(off),170(on with 5%bf)

    I am very serious about using gear.
    Please give me some advice.

    wk1~8 Sust 250mg/wk
    wk1~8 EQ 400mg/wk
    wk1~3 Dbl 20mg/d

    What do you think?
    Do you think I should have at least 500mg/wk Sus?
    and also is it better to have longer cycle something like 10wk?

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    It all depends on whether or not they test you for the competitions. Also, I don't personally like sust, I would use T200 instead, but either way you need at least 400-600mg/w test. So, if you go with the sust, definitely do 500/w. Also, up the dbol to at least 30mg/d and run it for 4 weeks instead of 3.

    I would run the test and eq for 10 weeks, but 8 is ok for your first cycle if you don't want to spend more. Make sure you have clomid for post cycle and nolv/arimidex on hand in case of gyno.

    Other than that, looks great! Eat hard and start growin'!

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    I ordered clomid and nolva.
    But I am wondering that it may be wiser to have arimidex also.
    What do you think?

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    At those dosages, nolvadex should be plenty. Actually you may not even need it at all (just depends on how sensitive you are to sides). I can usually get up to a gram of test a week and not see symptoms, but as soon as I stick myself with some deca , all hell breaks loose!!

    But if it makes you feel safer, get it. It's never a bad idea too have to many anti-e's around, just expensive. You may want to look into liquidex (I like it much better than arimidex cuz its the same thing at half the price).

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    Thanks for the advice.
    I will lokk for liquidex.

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    IMO, the perfect beginner cycle is 500mg test of any kind & 400mg of deca . If you want to kick start it use 40-60mg of dbol ed for the first 4-5 weeks. That will get you awesome results! Just remember if your gonna be tested that deca stays in the system for 18 months....

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    I wish I can use deca instead of EQ.
    But I am planning on competing next year and I may need to have drug tested so I have to avoid using deca.

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    I prefer EQ to deca anyways. Deca gave my symptoms of gyno even at 400mg a week. I have run both T200 and EQ as high as 1000mg a week without signs.... I just think my body doesn't like deca or something....

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