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    caseinate is offline New Member
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    New to androgens + everything on me

    First of all I'm an athlete so anyone with athletic experience relating to AAS please reply.

    I probably won't need doses in the range that most bodybuilders take.

    I was considering this: Winstrol 100mg per day weeks 1-8
    Milk thistle/ALA/TLD
    Glucosamine/condroiton/MSM
    Nolvadex for PCT


    Since diet and training are 80%, I'd just like to outline how I plan to train and eat.

    Monday ME Squat
    Tuesday ME Bench
    Wednesday 4 Reps of sprints (or if too tired then light stuff like farleks)
    Thursday DE Squat
    Friday DE Bench
    Saturday: Plyos (burpees, etc) or sprinting
    Sunday: Ball handling, light intensity (maybe med int. cardio)


    Diet: It is fairly strict but it isnt mundane, I "generally" eat these type of foods
    EXAMPLE
    Meal 1: Slow cooked multigrain oatmeal, flax seeds, eggs
    Meal 2: Chicken breast, beans
    Meal 3: Lean ground beef and stewed tomatoes
    Meal 4: Leftovers of one of those meals
    Meal 5: Dinner changes constantly
    Meal 6: Leftovers from dinner
    Meal 7: Flax oil and cottage cheese







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    Back to androgens, I dont really want something aromatising since I need to keep lean. Winstrol piqued my curiousity because it will increase RBC count and provides maintainable strength.

    I would have gone with EQ yet I cant get a source for it that is within my price range. I could go for anavar , what are thoughts on that? (much more expensive than the winstrol for me)
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    Closing, well I'm one of those newbies who has done some research first before asking so that must be refreshing. However I dont see or hear much on use for athletes.

    BTW This is the offseason for my sport- rugby. I need to run well and be lean.

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    trimunex is offline Senior Member
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    How about Test Prop/Winny and a good anti-e? Btw, what are your stats, including age?

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    Im 6' , and my weight fluctuates alot, about 200-205. I am turning 23 in a couple months.

    I play openside flanker which is a position where you need to sprint frequently, tackle alot.

    I was considering test prop but didn't want to inject so often especially for a first cycle. I know this might sound weird but testosterone seems to be a good steroid for bodybuilders but no so much in my case where I don't really want to gain much weight but be able to train more and have strength/speed.

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    More answers needed please

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    I would do the test prop, I mean if you are really serious about taking AAS to help you increase you athlectic potential then I do not see how injected would be that big of a deal.

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    Check your PMs mate

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    Stay away from Winny, not good for your joints.

    Just do a normal 500mg/wk of test for 10 wks.

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    Winny sucks. No further comment there.

    You said vascularity peaked your intereset. Just curious as to what benefit that has for a sport???

    Eq is a good choice. I ran 400mgs at 10 wks for my first and pleased with the results. I walked away stronger and leaner.

    However I popped my cherry in my pre-AR days. Based on what I know now...I would have undoubtfully ran 'test alone' instead.

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