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    info on first cycle?

    starting first cycle, am 21 years old 5-10 175lbs been lifting for 3 years. have d-bols and sustanon , also have liquidex and nolvadex with clomid for pct. but hade some gyno from puberty so to be on safe side how much anti-e should i take during cycle since i may be prone to gyno.
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    D-BOL-30mg 1-4
    sustanon-500mg 1-8- shot every 3 in a half days

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    first of all welcome to AR. second, I'd extend the sust to 10 weeks. Take 10-20mg nolva per day. if your running liquidex/armidex run it at .25mg/day and 10mg nolva/day. if you start showing gyno symptoms eat 40mg nolva per day until symptoms subside.
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    I would start a week before your cycle taking Nolv 20 mgs ed and run that throughout the cycle.Also I would consider running the test a few wks longer for better results.

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    should i take the liquidex also?

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    i would suggest taking the ldex and the nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolaid
    should i take the liquidex also?
    l-dex @ .25mgs will help with water retention.

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    if took .50mgs of l-dexED with 20mgsED nolv would it effect gains much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolaid
    if took .50mgs of l-dexED with 20mgsED nolv would it effect gains much?
    You'll be fine bro.........happy growing.

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    i would take .25mg ldex and 10mg nolva. as rickson once said "i'd rather have impeded gains then wear a bra"

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    thanx for the info,probably run cycle like this
    d-bol 30mg 1-4
    sustanon500mg 1-10
    nolv20mgED 1-16
    l-dex .25ED1-13
    clomid 13-16

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    spot on. have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolaid
    starting first cycle, am 21 years old 5-10 175lbs been lifting for 3 years. have d-bols and sustanon , also have liquidex and nolvadex with clomid for pct. but hade some gyno from puberty so to be on safe side how much anti-e should i take during cycle since i may be prone to gyno.
    CYCLE IS
    D-BOL-30mg 1-4
    sustanon-500mg 1-8- shot every 3 in a half days
    bro, everything looks good but you should shoot the sust every other day in order to fully utalize the prop ester in the sus, since prop only has a 3 or 4 day half life.

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    but if shoot sust EOD won't it increase chance of side effects?

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    E3D is fine... is your first cycle!
    some newbies try their fist cycle with sust 250 twice per week and gain a lot!

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