03-01-2004, 03:06 PM #1Junior Member
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Juice Before Basic Training, Good?
alright this thurs i will be getting 20ml of test enan to finally start my cycle i have had planned for like 7 months
looks like this
1-10: 500mgs test a week
1-16: 10mgs nolva and .025 mgs of armidex
13-16: PCT Clomid (300,150,50)
anyways my question do you think i should wait until after basic training to do this i leave in july. my main fear is my Petty Officers suspecting something and making me get tested.
i know they dont test for that unless they suspect it. I really want to take it before boot, so i will be more fit than i already am but thats not the only reason.
03-01-2004, 03:35 PM #2
Let me see if i understand this correctly. You dont have a training base...that is, you dont really have any serious training under your belt. If i am correct in those statements then WAIT!!! When you first start training you notice results like your on steroids . Maybe not quite as high, but many people who begin training will notice gains around 10-15lbs in as little as 3 months and their strength shoots through the roof. Adding steroids here is not good simply because you probably dont have great ligament and tendon strength or even enduranced muscle. Also, many people who are new to training dont really quite understand everything they can about training. There is so much to learn and you want your diet and workout to be in check before starting a cycle. I would recomend at least 2 years of dedicated training. Also, it has been researched that many people who start chaning there lifestyle as far as fitness is concerned stop after 3 months. That is why so many fad **** is advertised for 2-3 months such as body for life. If you take steroids, you may find you dont like working out and only end up hurting your body and wasting your money. You have to go into a steroid routine with great intensity and dedication and that is something that is quite uncommon in new lifters....mostly because they either dont know quite what it takes or they just dont like training that hard. You have to have your body ready to take the heavy demands, and frankly most people do not at the beginning. Take some time and train and learn to love it...many times that doesnt come at first. Trust me...if you dont have much training experience wait.
03-01-2004, 03:38 PM #3
sorry, i re read your post and realized you meant basic training as in military. Sorry for the confusion...i guess that teaches people to read the post first...lol. Either way, i guess it was at least good advice
As far as your real question...i think that if you have the time and dedication to do a proper cycle and proper pct and can train naturally for a while then i guess it is a personal decision to whether or not getting caught is worth it
03-01-2004, 07:00 PM #4
wait until after
basic training is catabolic as hell. 5 hrs sleep, little food, running all day. you'll lose all your gains
03-01-2004, 07:31 PM #5Originally Posted by slobberknocker
03-01-2004, 07:38 PM #6
If you were to do it before:
Adding muscle weight will not help you "get in shape." If you're not in good cardiovascular shape the extra 20lbs and two inches, on your legs and arms, will weigh you down as much as fat(ie-they are going to run your ass). Just wait until you are done with basic.
Get good at multiple sets of push-ups and be get good at your distance running. It will make jogging in double time feel like a breeze.
03-01-2004, 07:41 PM #7
Basic...... put 25 lbs on......... kept beef jerky with me, and ate it like crazy.. but the AF basic is different.. if you can swing it... supplement meals with all the jerky you can keep with you..........
all of your training now should be anything that increases endurance.. .... everything.. lower weights, higher reps....... plus that should protect you some from an injury before you go in..
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03-01-2004, 07:43 PM #8Originally Posted by spywizard
03-01-2004, 08:23 PM #9
I went to Navy boot camp back in Dec. '85 so things might have changed some but here goes. All you need to do is work on pushups, 8 count bodybuilders (ur recuiters can show u what they are), cardio, you'll never run farther than 2 miles, and sit ups. The main thing to work on is having your head on and having a positve outlook. Its pretty simple.
I've been to AF and Navy boot camp, and AF is by far the easiest. The only thing was that I was an 18yo kid from Bugtussell, AR. When I went to Navy boot camp I was older, wiser and more mature, so Navy boot was a piece of cake.
Navy boot is easy enough that you will not lose alot of gains like army boot because it isn't as physically draining. You get plenty of sleep and lotsa of food. Most guys gain weight during Navy boot camp.
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03-23-2004, 04:25 PM #10Senior Member
Originally Posted by slobberknocker
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It is very catabolic, however, you don't get 5 hours of sleep, you get plenty of food, but 3 times a day, and you run on an empty stomach. You will loose any bulk you put on, but lean gains will maintain somewhat.
03-23-2004, 04:31 PM #11
i put on 15lbs in Basic
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