Thread: 17AA and liver damage
03-22-2004, 11:39 AM #1
17AA and liver damage
Hi there bro's, it's a simple but a controversial question.
What causes more damage to the liver? Low 17aa dosis for a long period of time or high dosis for a short period???
I've made some resource and did get anything from the net....
03-22-2004, 11:42 AM #2
I think both will end up causing damage. I don't think it's a win or lose situation. Low doses over time will cause damage as will high doses over shorter times.
03-22-2004, 11:57 AM #3
i just looked at my blood results while running A-50 at 200mg/ed for 4 weeks and sust...1gr/week...my SGOT was 5.9...only .9 over normal and my red blood count was high also,but not by much ..i think that was 5.8,which is not exactly a bad thing..but you have to exspect a higher count while on but it will drop back to normal...keep it short.
03-22-2004, 12:00 PM #4
In any event, the "damage" is reversible. So, the lower doses over a longer period will give less "damage" if measured at any one time point versus high doses for shorter periods measured at any one time point. You'll have a net damage:repair ratio in either case. In general, the "damage" is overexaggerated and not looked at in the proper context.....that is, with respect to normal liver values for resistance training individuals.
03-22-2004, 12:21 PM #5
when compared to daily alchol abuse there isnt much diff, both damage your liver, but its not as sever as people want you to think
03-22-2004, 04:43 PM #6
Thanks for all the input.
As far as results, taking stanazolol as an example, if you run 4 weeks 50mg/ed, in theory, will we get the same results as taking 8 weeks 50mg/eod?
03-22-2004, 04:46 PM #7
Haha...I'd run 50mg ed for 6 weeks.
03-22-2004, 05:05 PM #8
OK MoneyBoss...that's the way i have mine too. I'm just tryng to conclude if there's any proportion on period-dosis-gains-liver stress .
04-03-2004, 07:42 PM #9
Uma pequena analogia :
Logan XXX um 17aa é como cutucar a ferida, eles causam mais dano devido a esse agrupamento alquil no carbono 17 que impossibilita a hidrólise imediata, fazendo que o msm seja filtrado diversas vezes antes que isso ocorra certo ?
È como uma dano consecutivo que o msm seja pelo menor tempo possível msm que isso queira dizer aplicações diárias.
Isso claro sem levar em consideração o fato da mv curta que ser de aproximadamente 24hrs.
I preffer a ed dosagem for a short period.
04-03-2004, 07:57 PM #10Originally Posted by kusanagi
04-03-2004, 08:31 PM #11
last time i checked, people on this board spoke english...
04-03-2004, 09:01 PM #12
One 17aa causes more damage due to this grouping alquil in carbon 17 that it disables immediate hydrolysis, making that same either filtered diverse times before this occurs right ?
A consecutive damage that msm either for the lesser possible time same that this wants to say daily applications.
Sorry about my english.
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