New Bulking Diet... Please Critique

**S R H** · 10-26-2004, 11:29 PM

Hey guys... Its back to bulking only this time im going all natural w/ out any juice or ph's, im gonna lay off for a few more years to get the most out of my natural test.

Ive tried to make up my diet along with other natural supps. so that i can get the absolute most out of these two months.

*If you guys would please critique this i wanna know how it could be change in ANY way possible to make it better. ...ie (times to take the supps. and amounts to take)

8:00 A.M.
1/2 cup oatmeal
4 hardboiled eggs (4 whites 2 yolks)
40 gram protein shake (O.N. 100% whey)
*****Supplements*****
1 gram HMB
2 grams Glutamine (need help on times and amounts to take it)
5 grams Arginine
Multi Vitamin

11:00 A.M.
40 gram protein shake (O.N. 100% whey)
1 serving almonds or peanuts
1 serving baby spinach

12:00 P.M.
Either:
1 whole chicken breast (43 grams Pro.) over 1 cup white rice (I cant stand brown)
or
Lean ground beef on wheat bread

**2 hour sleep/nap**

3:00 P.M.
1 can of tuna
1 Tbsp of full fat mayo
2 slices of white bread (optional)

**Pre-Workout**
****Supplements*****
5g Arginine
1g HMB
1.5g Carnosine
Swole v12 (4g creatine 1.5g arginine 1g glutamine 1g taurine)

**Post-Workout**
****Supplements*****
5g Arginine
1g HMB
1.5 Carnosine
5g Glutamine (?)
Swole v12
40g protein shake w/ 80g dex.

8:00 P.M
1 whole chicken breast (43 grams Pro.) over 1 cup white rice
or
12oz Steak and Mashed potatoes

10:00 P.M.
40g shake
1.5 tbsp flax oil
****Supplements*****
Multi Vitamin
1000mcg B-12 Injection (EOD)
3g glutamine (?)

Thx bro's, I hope u guys can help me out, now that I have decided to hold back on the juice.

**AustrianOAK14** · 10-26-2004, 11:59 PM

looks good but do you know how many calories a day you really need for your mass goals? how many grams of protein, carbs, fats you need each meal? overall good diet but make sure you know your numbers bro

**S R H** · 10-27-2004, 12:05 AM

yea it comes out to just about what i need...thats why i want ur critique

but i am 6'0 160 lbs 18 yrs old

If u wanna lemme know what u think.

**dalcowbag** · 10-27-2004, 05:15 AM

bro you are mixing carbs and fats in ALOT of your meals. . if you wish to keep this a clean bulker then i suggest changing it up

DCB

**wildman536** · 10-27-2004, 05:24 AM

your Diet looks solid bro, but you really need to figure out a Cal Range and go with what you have planned for a week or 2 and see whats happening. if i were you id add another 1/2 Cup Oatmeal to your Breakfast.

It looks like you are trying to keep It as Clean as possible (which is not a bad thing) but are you a Hard Gainer or an Easy Gainer?

**SwoleCat** · 10-27-2004, 07:05 AM

Didn't you used to be named "Bdubbz" or something like that?

I'd help out, but you were more than rude on many an occassion to me.

Karma sucks.

~SC~

**LeanMeOut** · 10-27-2004, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Didn't you used to be named "Bdubbz" or something like that?

I'd help out, but you were more than rude on many an occassion to me.

Karma sucks.

~SC~

I was wondering when people would realize it is the same kid

**SwoleCat** · 10-27-2004, 03:06 PM

I'm down to help anyone, really, or I wouldn't be here.

However, you never sh*t in your own backyard.

~SC~

**S R H** · 10-27-2004, 03:09 PM

Yeah guys its me, not like im trying to hide anything. Thats cool if you dont wanna help me out. Do as you feel. But please keep those kinda posts off threads where im looking for help. I thought you guys would just be more inclined to help me now that im trying to do it the right/natural way, taking your advice. Thx ya bro

take it easy. no hard feelings

DCB: What do u suggest i switch up then?
and to wildman : Yea i am a very hard gainer

**Blown_SC** · 10-27-2004, 03:12 PM

Ditch the white bread...

**S R H** · 10-27-2004, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Ditch the white bread...

Im bulking though....how much does it like really matter? Alot?

I can eat like anything and not get a bit of fat, its weird. I dont think it affects me that much. The only reason im eating clean is cause i wanna stay healthy, but if i should be switching stuff up to enable myself to gain more weight, plz lemme know.

**LeanMeOut** · 10-27-2004, 03:22 PM

Wheat bread has more nutrients and is lower GI...... but if you wanna eat white bread and your not going to get fat from it then go for it.

**Blown_SC** · 10-27-2004, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

Wheat bread has more nutrients and is lower GI...... but if you wanna eat white bread and your not going to get fat from it then go for it.

...

**wildman536** · 10-27-2004, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by S R H

and to wildman : Yea i am a very hard gainer

like i said just wait a couple Weeks assess your Gains and if you need to Add or Subtract. you look like you have a Good Plan just stick to It!!

**S R H** · 10-27-2004, 06:38 PM

sounds good.. but um
still got a few more questions.

1) i know i need to take out the carbs and fats together.. but when should i move them too. Like what meals.

2) Also are these the right times to be taking these supplements, to maximize their benifits? (any feed back on this would be awesome)

**wildman536** · 10-27-2004, 09:56 PM

1. youll have to assess that bro, just make sure that you arent getting any Fat in your Post Workout (Window)

2. Supps look Good.

**S R H** · 10-30-2004, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by wildman536

1. youll have to assess that bro, just make sure that you arent getting any Fat in your Post Workout (Window)

2. Supps look Good.

Anyone else wanna tell me what they would add or do my my supps? cause i know something is prolly off with them. haha

**bulldawg_28** · 10-31-2004, 01:12 AM

No flame here bro, but whats with all the HMB? It's expensive stuff, and honestly I don't think its all that great (at least for me). I woulda spent that money on more creatine and dextrose.

**S R H** · 10-31-2004, 11:00 AM

k so take out the hmb or what?

**wildman536** · 10-31-2004, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by S R H

k so take out the hmb or what?

yeah, buy more Protien.

**S R H** · 10-31-2004, 11:10 AM

k lol...

anything else like glutamine dosages? does that look ok?

**wildman536** · 10-31-2004, 11:14 AM

Move the Breakfast Glut, to Pre-Workout or Add Some if you can Into Pre-Workout.

**manc** · 08-27-2005, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by S R H

Hey guys... Its back to bulking only this time im going all natural w/ out any juice or ph's, im gonna lay off for a few more years to get the most out of my natural test.

Ive tried to make up my diet along with other natural supps. so that i can get the absolute most out of these two months.

*If you guys would please critique this i wanna know how it could be change in ANY way possible to make it better. ...ie (times to take the supps. and amounts to take)

8:00 A.M.
1/2 cup oatmeal
4 hardboiled eggs (4 whites 2 yolks)
40 gram protein shake (O.N. 100% whey)
*****Supplements*****
1 gram HMB
2 grams Glutamine (need help on times and amounts to take it)
5 grams Arginine
Multi Vitamin

11:00 A.M.
40 gram protein shake (O.N. 100% whey)
1 serving almonds or peanuts
1 serving baby spinach

12:00 P.M.
Either:
1 whole chicken breast (43 grams Pro.) over 1 cup white rice (I cant stand brown)
or
Lean ground beef on wheat bread

**2 hour sleep/nap**

3:00 P.M.
1 can of tuna
1 Tbsp of full fat mayo
2 slices of white bread (optional)

**Pre-Workout**
****Supplements*****
5g Arginine
1g HMB
1.5g Carnosine
Swole v12 (4g creatine 1.5g arginine 1g glutamine 1g taurine)

**Post-Workout**
****Supplements*****
5g Arginine
1g HMB
1.5 Carnosine
5g Glutamine (?)
Swole v12
40g protein shake w/ 80g dex.

8:00 P.M
1 whole chicken breast (43 grams Pro.) over 1 cup white rice
or
12oz Steak and Mashed potatoes

10:00 P.M.
40g shake
1.5 tbsp flax oil
****Supplements*****
Multi Vitamin
1000mcg B-12 Injection (EOD)
3g glutamine (?)

Thx bro's, I hope u guys can help me out, now that I have decided to hold back on the juice.

I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD THREAD BUT HOW BIG WAS THE BIRD THAT THE CHICKEN BREAST CAME OFF..!..43grams!!

**Zigzak** · 08-30-2005, 09:20 AM

i think this is a good clean bulking diet , but i wonder if you ' r not going to waste some supplements , for sure you r goin to have some real good time , with good hard workout , and goods feelings .
But i'm not sure you are goin to had some muscle.

i see well your diet during a recovery phase between 2 cycles , to maintain what you gain...

but it's only depending on you , you are the one who knows you better than the others , and if you have elaborate this diet it must be found on your own experience...

anyway i wish you good luck and all the spiritual strenght that you need ( i mean faith is the most important , c'mon ! )