Local bodybuilder has me on this for cutting....comments??

[ya_man]

Hey guys, theres a local bodybuilder in town who has me on this diet to cut down the fat. I've given myself the next 4 months so I am to stick to this diet for the first 4 weeks then we sit down and re-examine the diet and make any changes needed.

Cardio is on and so its weights.....no worries there...right now as for supps....protein, glutamine, 75mgs ephdrene and 600mgs caffene....

so heres the diet....

Meal 1:
8 egg whites and 1 yolk
3/4 cup oats with whey mixed in

Meal 2:
apple
whey shake with glutamine mixed with 1cup fat free milk

Meal 3:
1 cup rice
chicken breast

Workout

Meal 4:
1 cup pasta
Chicken breast

Meal 5:
8 egg whites
romaine lettuce salad with fat free italian dressing

Meal 6:
tuna/shake/egg whites
1 cup brocolli

this is completely different from what im used to...(ie: pro/carb, pro/fat, etc)

any input would be nice....should i ditch this and jump on the cutting sticky...or stay with it??

[WEBB]

that is pretty much what i used to diet down for a competition and it worked wonders for me i went from 255 to 215 in ten weeks with cardio every morning on an empty stomach and i used a eca stack as well as clen when i wasnt using eca.

[ya_man]

that is pretty much what i used to diet down for a competition and it worked wonders for me i went from 255 to 215 in ten weeks with cardio every morning on an empty stomach and i used a eca stack as well as clen when i wasnt using eca.

good to hear!...althought im finding myself hungry after my PWO meal....all the way till bed...maybe is there another meal i can add in there? Did u make ur own ECA stack?....if so, what were the dosages?.....about the clen ....im picking some up i think mid febuary just to give it a real kick up....i take it u did 45 mins cardio in the morn?

also forgot to add....right now im sitting at about 202lbs, 5'8, 19 years old....been training 3 years....1.5 years with decent knowledge....also bf% is around 12-13%.....would LOVE to be down to around 7 or 8 by may....

[WEBB]

my general rule is if you have to add some thing make sure it is protien only like half a chicken breast or can of tuna. as for the eca stack take 1-2 aspirin, 20mg ephedra and one larg eblack coffee on the weeks your not taking clen . you should run clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, and on your 2 weeks off use the eca stack. you should throw in another shake right after your workout imo that should ease the hunger

Peace WEBBNB

[ya_man]

my general rule is if you have to add some thing make sure it is protien only like half a chicken breast or can of tuna. as for the eca stack take 1-2 aspirin, 20mg ephedra and one larg eblack coffee on the weeks your not taking clen . you should run clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, and on your 2 weeks off use the eca stack. you should throw in another shake right after your workout imo that should ease the hunger

Peace WEBBNB

throw some dex in the PWO shake as well? cause that would be adding to the calories and cabrs

[spywizard]

Hey guys, theres a local bodybuilder in town who has me on this diet to cut down the fat. I've given myself the next 4 months so I am to stick to this diet for the first 4 weeks then we sit down and re-examine the diet and make any changes needed.

Cardio is on and so its weights.....no worries there...right now as for supps....protein, glutamine, 75mgs ephdrene and 600mgs caffene....

so heres the diet....

Meal 1:
8 egg whites and 1 yolk
3/4 cup oats with whey mixed in

Meal 2:
apple
whey shake with glutamine mixed with 1cup fat free milk

Meal 3:
1 cup rice
chicken breast

Workout

Meal 4:
1 cup pasta
Chicken breast

Meal 5:
8 egg whites
romaine lettuce salad with fat free italian dressing

Meal 6:
tuna/shake/egg whites
1 cup brocolli

this is completely different from what im used to...(ie: pro/carb, pro/fat, etc)

any input would be nice....should i ditch this and jump on the cutting sticky...or stay with it??

too many carbs, and not enough fats... efa..

[spywizard]

your primary...

never mind.. read the cutting sticky..

take 2 protein shakes with flax 2 x per day..

that will get you where you want to be.. 1 cup of rice is way too much.. and pasta??

I don't think so..

teh flax will give you the energy you need..

[ya_man]

so what about something along the lines of this diet?.....


meal 1:
1 scoop whey/1tblsp flax

meal 2:
8 eggwhites and 3/4cup oats

meal 3:
tuna/PB

meal 4:
2 scooop whey/dex (PWO)

meal 5:
chicken breast/1 cup rice (PPWO)

meal 6:
chicken breast/almonds

meal 7:
2 scoop whey and 1tblsp flax

hows that look?

[WEBB]

make sure you use long grain brown rice or whole wheat pasta.

[spywizard]

so what about something along the lines of this diet?.....


meal 1:
1 scoop whey/1tblsp flax

meal 2:
8 eggwhites and 3/4cup oats

meal 3:
tuna/PB

meal 4:
2 scooop whey/dex (PWO)

meal 5:
chicken breast/1 cup rice (PPWO)

meal 6:
chicken breast/almonds

meal 7:
2 scoop whey and 1tblsp flax

hows that look?

this one is alot better.... i've found that if i follow a diet more along these lines for 2 weeks, and then one with more real food for 2 weeks i get great results, and don't burn out...

if you stay with the strick diet.. you will need at least 1 cheat meal a week..

[tretch187]

Curious... whats the purpose of the carbs in meal #2?

[spywizard]

by putting the carbs in the 2nd meal, he's trying to get 1 additional protein meal in.. before the carbs..

I don't agree with this, as the carbs need to be consumed as soon as possible upon rising..

but hey.. it's better than a poke in the eye.

and i'm a morning person..

[WEBB]

i would combine meal 1 and 2. 8 egg whites, 3/4 cup of oats with 1 tbsp. flax, and trow in a scoop of whey into my oats. jmo!

[ya_man]

i would combine meal 1 and 2. 8 egg whites, 3/4 cup of oats with 1 tbsp. flax, and trow in a scoop of whey into my oats. jmo!

if i were to combine the 2 meals...which for me would be more time saving (so benefit)...should i take the flax outta there since its not good to mix fats and carbs?....

[ya_man]

this one is alot better.... i've found that if i follow a diet more along these lines for 2 weeks, and then one with more real food for 2 weeks i get great results, and don't burn out...

if you stay with the strick diet.. you will need at least 1 cheat meal a week..

i understand when u say u follow this type of diet for 2 weeks then you say switch to a diet with more WHOLE/REAL foods....explain this concept and what would be in place of the other "non-real foods"....if u dont mind...im curious about trying that, cause as we all know..diets do get VERY boring after weeks and weeks of the same food, same time..etc

[spywizard]

instead of the 2 meals that are

pro/fat chicken/flax

try

fish/asparagus with lemon

beens/bacon

or

Beef/sweet potato artifical butter/splenda

[stayinstacked]

Tell your guy Stacked says his diet sucks!!!

[mitch911]

some efa's will take care of that hunger u have till bed add them in and ditch some carbs

[hardgainer12]

I cent think about food when i see ya man's avatar!! U know her? nevermind! sorry 4 the interruption!

[ya_man]

Tell your guy Stacked says his diet sucks!!!

i will be sure to let'em know!!..hahaha

[jdh]

not sure what your stats are , but anyway my opinion is your having way too many carbs. also stick with pro/fat and pro/carb meals and try to keep damn near all your carbs for your 2 pwo's. you might be able to drop some pounds with this but youll drop more fat with seperating the carbs and fats and keeping those carbs for pwo. id go to the bulking sticky and open the spreadsheet and put in your stats to find your caloric requirements. what ever the carb amount is divide that in two for your pwo's. hit the cardio 5-7 days a week. its tough but after a couple weeks your body will be used to it.

[Panzerfaust]

CAPS!

so what about something along the lines of this diet?.....


meal 1:
1 scoop whey/1tblsp flax
MAKE THIS EITHER PRO/CARB OR PRO/FAT
meal 2:
8 eggwhites and 3/4cup oats
MAKE THIS PRO/FAT AND DITCH THE CARBS AND HAVE THEM IN MEAL 1 IF YOU WANT PRO/CARB
meal 3:
tuna/PB
OK...BUT TUNA & PB? YOU COULD ALWAYS TRY FULL FAT MAYO
meal 4:
2 scooop whey/dex (PWO)
OK!
meal 5:
chicken breast/1 cup rice (PPWO)
TRY 1/2 CUP WHICH WILL EQUAL ROUGHLY 1 CUP COOKED, OATS WORK WELL HERE AS WELL AS SWEET POTATOES
meal 6:
chicken breast/almonds
OK!
meal 7:
2 scoop whey and 1tblsp flax
OK!
hows that look?

There are alot of opinions on this thread (mine are the best naturally :lol ) and you will have to figure out hat works best for you personally as we are all different but i think with what i added above should work well but then again its all about trial and error..i would not mix fats/carbs when first cutting..later you might be able to get away with it but for now seperate them.

Best of luck!

[ya_man]

CAPS!





There are alot of opinions on this thread (mine are the best naturally :lol ) and you will have to figure out hat works best for you personally as we are all different but i think with what i added above should work well but then again its all about trial and error..i would not mix fats/carbs when first cutting..later you might be able to get away with it but for now seperate them.

Best of luck!

thanks very much!!...that clears a lot up for me as far as some foods and also some change at times too.....im gunna print this out and stick'er on the fridge....

thanks dude