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    Post PGF2A Report by Ranger

    Much thanks to the Iron Brother!!
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    PGF2A Report by Ranger:


    PROSTAGLANDIN'S! Prostaglandin F2 Alpha (PGF2A) Lutalyse


    Is PGF2A for me?


    Is PGF2A for everyone? Clearly not! Will it work? Yes! In this
    information, I will try to cover as much as possible about this drug. What I
    have put together here is based much upon personal experiences…. I feel
    no report can accurately prepare you for everything…. PGF2A is no
    exception! Contributing to this report are Big Brother Val, Ranger, Jeff rys,
    BigDawg, and E2, from the Elite Fitness Discussion board Mr. Nobody,
    and Efigy…. Thank you all for your patience!


    PGF2A and anabolism.


    Many studies have demonstrated an anabolic effect of PGF2A in skeletal
    muscles of both humans and animals. Paradoxically, PGF2A usage is still
    reserved to a bodybuilding elite and no one is willing to divulge its
    precious secret edge. One of the most remarkable effects of PGF2A is
    that it potentates the anabolic effects of insulin . By combining PGF2A,
    and insulin athletes can use much less insulin and get a much better
    muscle building effect than with insulin alone.


    Is PGF2A safe?


    The answer is clearly no, but neither is the use of steroids , insulin,
    clenbuterol , etc. By the way, PGF2A is invisible at any drug test. What
    kind of side effects to expect? The main side effect -- if we exclude
    the elevation of temperature - is a strong laxative effect. So make sure
    you have unrestricted use of a bathroom. This lasts around 20 minutes.
    What you do not want is to inject PGF2A into a vein! Learn to do the
    aspiration test. PGF2A is injected intramuscularly with an insulin needle
    if you are lean enough. Injecting in a vein will hurt like hell and for
    a very long time (up to an hour). You may feel as if you have a cold in
    your throat. This is due to the vasoconstriction effect PGF2A has in
    the lungs. Vomiting is a reported side effect but I have never heard of
    it in men.


    PGF2A is not to be confused with steroids.


    Although part of the anabolic actions of androgens are from a local
    release of PGF2A. PGF2A produces growth in a radically different way from
    steroids -- While steroid use is rather comfortable. PGF2A is used in a
    radically different way than Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids. With AS
    You inject or swallow them occasionally and wait for the growth to
    occur. This is not the case with PGF2A. PGF2A's main drawback is its
    difficult method of administration. Steroids once injected exert their effect
    for several days in the body. PGF2A's duration is only several minutes
    though its stimulatory action on anabolism lasts several hours. This
    means that to be effective, frequent injections are compulsory. An ideal
    injection schedule would be five times daily, 30 minutes after meals.
    You will also notice immediately after injecting PGF2A into the muscle,
    the injection site becomes sore almost immediately. If the muscle was
    already sore from training, the pain may become intense. You defini!
    tely do not want to repeat injections to the same location, hence the
    necessity of rotation. Additionally, you will notice you cannot inject
    into a muscle and then train that muscle. PGF2A is algesic (a pain
    mediator). Therefore, the timing of injections is key. You should wait for
    at least 2 to 3 days after you have trained a muscle before using it for
    an injection. Then you will have to wait for 24 hours before training
    this muscle. Again If your muscle is sore, I advise not injecting into
    it until it is not sore. You will also learn that it is more comfortable
    to inject the outer part of the muscle rather than the inner part. For
    example, it is less painful to hit the outer head of the triceps than
    the inner head that touches the lats. Some bodyparts such as the biceps
    and back are especially sensitive to the pain sensation PGF2A will
    induce.


    The personals!!!


    This section contains a lot of personal experiences, and side effects
    with this new drug…


    Big Brother Val!


    According to Val pumps are INSANE! In addition, Val, as the rest of us
    found; needed the unrestricted use of the bathroom…Does it hurt? In
    Val's words, " This shit is awesome…Hurts like fucking hell!" As Val
    stayed with the injections, and SLOWLY increased the dosage, we got a report
    from him at the 2-week point of the cycle. Injections and dosages
    varied, but I will relate this as Val told it, " Hitting the arms 12 times a
    day….3 in each Biceps, 3 in each Triceps, for a total of 6cc's a day. I
    am being burned out on injecting myself so often, especially in the
    Biceps. The pain is reducing now, and I do not feel sick. Still get
    shortness of breath, and tightness in the chest each time. There is a visible
    difference in growth thus far, and my body fat has dropped
    significally." As you can see, and as most of us found, the injections become a
    major burden to deal with, the benefit though, is the visible growth all
    of us have saw…it is a very hard choice. This was taken off the E!
    litefitness Board as one of Big Brother Val's Post's! I was injecting
    my arms 4 times a week. It went like this: Sun:..shoot/arms......
    lift/rest Mon:..shoot/shoulders..lift/arms, pump/chest
    Tues:.shoot/shoulders..lift/back, pump/shouders Wed:..shoot/shoulders..lift/legs
    Thurs.shoot/arms.......lift/chest, pump/arms Fri:..shoot/arms.......lift/shoulders,
    pump/calves Sat:..shoot/arms.......lift/rest Then repeat. I've switched
    it up a bit, and have found a lot better response... in a matter of a
    few days, I have new stretch marks starting on my tri's... and my arms
    have never felt so full. Now my lifting schedule is the same. However, I
    switched up the dosage on PGF2A. I read in the articles by Dharkam that
    you should shoot 24 hours before training a muscle... then wait 2 days
    after that to shoot it again. Maybe even three days if you train hard
    enough. I personally have found that if I shoot the muscle group the
    same day I train it... that my lifts go better... my pumps are abso!
    lutely incredible... and I keep my pump a lot longer, as well as feel
    more pumped the next couple of days. Now I follow this schedule:
    Sun:..shoot/arms...... lift/rest Mon:..shoot/ARMS.......lift/arms, pump/chest
    Tues:.shoot/shoulders..lift/back, pump/shouders
    Wed:..shoot/shoulders..lift/legs Thurs.shoot/arms.......lift/chest, pump/arms
    Fri:..shoot/SHOULDERS.......lift/shoulders, pump/calves
    Sat:..shoot/arms.......lift/rest Then repeat. Val wrote "It's only a switch of two days... but for my
    personal results it's really working great. On arm day, I take six cc's
    throughout the day. I will up the dosage coming up next week, and see
    how that goes. My side effects are gone... besides the odd feeling in
    the chest... and the intense muscle pain. Just thought I would give an
    update for those interested in this." I have just come off a Sustanon ,
    Eq. cycle... and will be doing a cycle of test, Eq, and Dbol after my
    PGF2A run. The pain sucks, absolutely. However, I want to focus on my !
    arms and deltas, so they can catch up. A lot harder to do on regular
    gear. "My poundage's are definitely affected. Not nearly as dramatic as
    stated in that article, though. I was curling 65 lb. dumbbells for eight
    reps before I started this. Now I'm curling 45 lb. dumbbells and hoping
    for eight. The pump is insane." "One of the great things, is that you
    can REALLY feel the muscle working. Really, helps to focus on that
    muscle group and feel it work throughout the entire range of motion. The
    pain factor is intense... and the muscle REALLY burns bad while training
    it. More so when you shoot on the same day you train it. That feeling
    isn't as intense if you stop shooting that muscle 24 hours before you
    train it." "I'm never sore after a workout the following day, but hot damn
    am I sore after each shot." "Well.... the muscle pain you experience is
    INTENSE!! Right now for example... I hit arms on my lunch break... (got
    the most incredible pump I have EVER had, by the way), came bac!
    k, and shot in the bathroom. My arms hurt so badly right now, I can't
    explain it. Can't bend 'em very well, or straighten them all the way....
    I have a tight feeling in the chest... Nevertheless, GODDAMN!!! This is
    the biggest my arms have EVER looked!! IT'S FUCKIN' INSANE!! I
    literally cannot put on the shirt I was wearing before break... it won't
    stretch enough to fit on my arms!!"

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    CYCLEON Guest
    Jeff rys!


    After 4 to 5 weeks of PGF2A injections, Jeff reported the following to
    me. " I'm doing 8 shots a day at .5cc. Left Biceps, Right Biceps would
    equal one full cc. I am fed up with the numerous injections, and if I
    can overcome being fed up with the needle, I will inject more. As for
    the results, ½ on arms when flexed. I did shoulders as well, and they are
    thicker. I did some injecting in the abs, by pulling the skin up, and
    injecting. The site turned red, in a spot of around 3 square inches. I
    am now injecting into the muscle of the abs, but this is dangerous
    because you may pass through and hit an organ. I only inject abs once a
    week, and the site gets thick, as if a vein is iriated. It is not a vein,
    but it feels like it. I have dropped 11 pounds, and everyone says how
    good I look…. I tried lower back, and chest as well, not much results,
    but I think it works best if you inject in the same spot a lot more. I
    feel it's a good alternative to steroids …But, I don't know how safe i!
    t is."


    PGF2A and weak bodyparts.


    The cardinal rule of PGF2A is to inject as far away as possible from
    the intestines, PGF2A induces a very strong contraction of the intestine
    and the bladder (both smooth muscles). Bodybuilders found the best
    injection site was the front shoulder. But by repeating injections
    frequently in the shoulders, bodybuilders soon ended up with grossly
    overdeveloped front delt's. They looked like walking monkeys. The rest of their
    body was growing too, but not as fast as the muscles closest to the
    Injections site. What this means is that PGF2A is ideal for developing a
    lagging muscle, just inject PGF2A locally and watch! The muscle grows.
    And, the increased in size is real muscle growth and not artificial
    swelling like Synthol or Esiclene would induce. The calves are another
    obvious muscle of choice. In fact, even if your calves have failed to grow
    no matter how much you have trained them, PGF2A will Solve your problem.
    After a single cycle of PGF2A, unresponsive calves start to respond!
    , even if they never did before! The localized growth induced by PGF2A
    may appear magical, but there is a Simple explanation. The Life Cycle
    of the injected PGF2A is terribly short (minutes). In minutes, most of
    it will be destroyed by the lungs.If you hit your right calf for
    example, the muscle is exposed to a Maximum Concentration of PGF2A. As the
    prostaglandin dissipates and passes into the Blood, it quickly reaches the
    lungs where most of it is destroyed. What is remaining Is dispersed
    evenly though the entire body. This limited dispersed means that other
    muscles away from the injection site will be Exposed to far less of the
    Anabolic effects of PGF2A. So unless you only want to make a weak body
    pant grow, you Should rotate the Sites of injections frequently. Let us
    continue with other personal experiences!


    Efigy!


    Okay, here's my info: 1/2 cc in both body parts (1cc total)at a time.
    biceps morning, triceps noon, delt's night. this is my third day. about
    5 min. after injection stinging in bodypart. about 10 min. after
    injection coughing and "weird feeling" in my lungs, numb lips, intense waves
    of pain in the body part injected. about 20-30 min. after injection
    slight to moderate urge to shit, not that bad though, no running to
    bathroom. One and ½ to two hours after injection all bad sides are gone.
    pleasant pump/pain in bodypart. I am noticing a big difference already! Oh
    yea! I almost forgot, major chills and feeling VERY cold about 10 min.
    after and lasts about 30 min.


    BIGDAWG!


    What's up guys.. as we speak, I'm on my first dose of PGF2A. It was a
    little fucked up how it happened so I will just explain from the
    beginning. I decided to try the DMSO method first. I guess I am just curious
    like that. I put 1/4 of a cc on each gauze pad and some DMSO gel. I had
    my wife tape the shit to my shoulders and I waited. It got warm, and I
    was light- headed as well. I felt weird once it was absorbing and the
    DMSO gets warm! I'm not sure if its that or the PGF2A, but whatever. I
    did 1/4 of a cc because I just wanted to test it out a little. Well,
    after having it on there for like 30 minutes, I said fuck it, loaded
    another one up with 1/4 cc, and put them on my bicep's. Therefore, as I am
    typing this I have the pads on both areas and I am heating up rather
    warm. From what my boy tells me, the gel takes a little while to absorb,
    so I am giving it some time. I will say, my biceps's feel much-pumped
    right now. Kinda cool. He also told me, what he noticed was with the D!
    MSO, its like a more "all around" growth, where as with the pin, its
    like a peak growth. Not all around means the whole body. It means the
    whole muscle you put it on. He explained to me how the vessel's work, this
    dudes like a medical student, so I trust him. Fuck I gotta shit. Hang
    on! Ok I am back. Goddamn did not even see that one coming! Ok I just
    took off the deltoid pads; it has been almost an hour now. Well it looks
    like a big ass rash on my deltoids now. In addition, its WARM. The
    biceps's are still kicking full force now. I think the dose is the thing
    that determines the whole shit your pants thing and all just hope I get
    some results. My biceps are pumped! In addition, my veins are coming out
    like crazy from my BI's on down. Well, I am gonna go for now. Next time
    I will try the inject. Fuck, I can't wait for that shit! Okay, after
    reading over the Ranger's e-mail to me a couple of times I said fuck it
    and got up the balls to do it. I don't know why, but I was like, R!
    EALLY thinking it was going to be BAD. So after some prepping and all I
    had my wife stick my delts. when she injected, I didn't feel
    shit..nothing. in fact, I almost thought my shit was bunk..lol then I got light
    headed..like a paint high. then I felt a little soreness in the sites. I
    was waiting for the other sides and I got a couple cramps in the
    stomach and that was about it. now please keep in mind, I get explosive shits
    all the time.. I think my body was laughing at the PGF2A, McDonalds is
    worse. hehe As time went on ,I began to get more sore.. like I had did
    a BIG set of laterals I guess. Once the soreness starts, the short
    breath came. not too bad though.. I only felt it when I TRIED to breathe in
    hard. after that all sets in, nothing else happened.. I coughed a few
    times but that's it. If this is what's its like ,then I shouldn't have a
    problem with this. Not for the results, it's supposed to give. Ranger's
    right on this one.. after everything I read, I was waiting for!
    it to be PURE HELL, but this is not the case. I will now retract my
    statement about the taking a shit part. I had a FULL stomach on my last
    inject, in fact I had just eaten a mcflurry well, at first I got a
    little rumble down there so I grabbed my favorite car audio magazine and
    went to town. the rumble was followed by some NASTY unloading, lets just
    say I made a swamp. fuck it though, I felt lean as a mofo once it was
    over! the burning/pain part isn't shit, on the delts at least, I'm sure
    the BI's would be worse but I'm not worried about it. I guess I was
    thinking it would be like REAL bad,but its not. as for injecting, I've sort
    of came up with my own little schedule. I figure this week I want to
    hit triceps and shoulders. so one-day ill do my tri's twice and shoulders
    once, then the next day ill change that around. this way they are
    getting hit twice one day and once the next day. I can't think of another
    way to do it without injecting like way more. The injects aren't bad!
    at all, I could stand it like 5 times a day, but I don't have the time
    to take that many 45 min shits. Ranger, man my fucking lips get numb
    now! LOL the good thing is, I'm getting used to the sides now, and they
    don't bother me. it did bother me last night when my wife hit a nerve in
    my tricep. here is a list of my experience so far.. 1. the inject, no
    pain unless she hits the nerve.. ouch 2. slight sting on injection spot
    3. begin to feel warm.. a little dizzy 4. get small cramps in stomach
    5. sites get a little more sore 6. lips numb 7. HUGE SHIT, liquid 8.
    everything goes away.. chills sometimes. that's it.. it all lasts about
    20-30 minutes for me and I'm done. I do this shit on my lunch break now.
    once one side hits, another goes away. PGF2A is not painful, it's
    fucking annoying. it sucks to have to feel that way three times a day,
    that's why it sucks.

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    Ranger


    Well, I guess you could say I was a little more experimental in my use
    with PGF2A. I wanted to see how far I could take it, and what happened,
    and what I could do to minimize the side effects without hindering the
    growth process……Well, I don't have all the answers to this one. I do
    know it takes dedication, as Val has showed us, and you will have to
    endure some pretty nasty sides from time to time….bottom line!!! The choice
    is yours, and yours alone!! I started out at 2.5mg's per bicep twice a
    day from the start. I experienced all of the aforementioned
    sides….Breathing, numb lips, diarrhea, hypoglycemia, muscle pain….the list goes
    on. However, in 2 weeks my arms grew ½ inches…doesn't sound like much?
    It's permanent 85growth…that's good! I did get pretty cocky at the end of
    the 2nd week and decided to inject calves…I injected 1cc per muscle,
    per leg, for a total of 4cc's or 20mg's. My GOD was the pain intense!! I
    couldn't walk for 30 minutes, Breathing was labored, lips complet!
    ely numb, mucous in my throat, and when the diarrhea came, I had to
    crawl to the bathroom. I was laughing and wanting to cry at the same time,
    but I made it(barely)! I will say this now…UP THE DOSAGE SLOWLY!!! How
    much? I cannot give you the answers to that, everyone will be
    different. BIGDAWG'S side effects are no where near that of Val', Jeff, and
    mine. However, take it slowly! I decided to try a very strict diet to see
    the effects…I only had 100 grams of Carbohydrates per day, all before
    lunch…low fat. The third day into this diet I was getting added side
    effects….light headed, headaches, cold chills, shaky. I checked my blood
    sugar levels the fourth day after my morning injection….49mg/dl. Yup,
    Hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). I quickly drank some orange juice, protein
    shake, and ate some Gram Crackers…the sides quickly subsided. I even
    made a Doctor's Appt. to have this checked further…everything came out
    fine…nothing! Here's what I found to work best for me…around 1 hour b!
    efore injection, have a bowl of oatmeal, and a small protein shake.
    After your injection, and the sides(diarrhea) have subsided, eat 3 tablets
    of Glucose(chewable orange flavored…yummy!), and have a large protein
    shake. You can buy these over the counter and is a great sugar free Carb
    Booster!! This worked great for me!! I found out, and all who are using
    this will agree…I have become leaner than I ever have!! As my body fat
    dropped, my arms and calves continued to grow, as did the rest of my
    body. Only at a slower pace. INJECTIONS SUCK!! You wanna grow?? Get used
    to the idea!! I use 28 or 29-gauge 1 inch Insulin pins. Works great
    Bro's! After three weeks, and all will once again agree, you will get
    needle phobia…heh heh heh…! That's where we come to the next section….PGF2A
    and DMSO!! These are some do's and don'ts I think is important: 1. Do
    up the dosage slowly! 2. Do take your time injecting! 3. Do have access
    to a restroom! 4. Do make sure the injection site is clean! 1. D!
    on't inject into the ab's, lower back, forearms, and trap's(personal
    experience on this one)! I know Jeff rys is doing this with no lasting
    side effects, but I feel it is unsafe at best! 2. Don't get PGF2A near
    your wife or girlfriend! It can be absorbed through the skin, and will
    cause cramps, bleeding…etc. In women…Never get it near a woman that is
    pregnant! 3. Don't use this blindly…do all available research…then
    decide! I will in the coming weeks try another little experiment of my own. I
    will mix the PGF2A with DMSO and Yohimbe for spot fat reduction, and
    hopefully, localized growth! If anyone has tried this, or heard of anyone
    who has. Please post the information, and results…Thanks!!


    PGF2A and DMSO


    Prompted by BIGDAWG'S experiment, and my sudden lack of interest in
    injections !! I decided to conduct a few experiments of my own with DMSO
    and PGF2A…My conclusion…Injections work better, but DMSO is a welcome
    break!! I would spread DMSO on a 4 inch by 4-inch gauze pad, squirt ½ cc
    per pad, and then tape it to my Pectorals. I left it there for
    approximately 30 minutes. Sides were minimal at best…Somewhat heavy breathing,
    light headed, site becomes very warm, and once you pull the gauze off,
    you may see a slight rash(it will leave quickly). The site becomes
    rather pumped, and in the case of my Biceps, I noticed an increase in
    Vascularity. Now, once I pulled the gauze off my chest. I went straight to
    the gym. I worked my chest in a normal fashion. I became much more
    pumped!! I could even tell in the mirror. I did three sets of cable
    crossovers…MY GOD…It was Intense…veins everywhere!! For the next two days, my
    chest was crushed!! It felt good to be that sore again. Tried it agai!
    n the same way the next week, no where near the same pump, or after
    effects!! For Biceps, I upped the dosage to 1 cc per pad, per Bicep. I
    achieved a good pump, and increased Vascularity. I feel you have to up the
    dosage a lot quicker with the DMSO method to achieve max results.
    Nevertheless, that is only my opinion…if anyone else has tried this method
    in more depth, please post the time and results!! Remember this report,
    is mostly based on personal experience. Remember, not much is known
    about PGF2A, so take it slow. I had a GTT test done..all results were
    negative. I have been on for 5 weeks now. I hope this has answered many
    your questions, but it doesn't answer them all!! You have to decide
    Brother's…Is PGF2A for me?? Maybe yes, maybe no!! But, it is for Ole
    Ranger!!! Cause, It's All Good!! Many thanks to all those who have ventured
    into the unknown with this new drug, and have shared the experience!!

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    Very interesting stuff...what will they come up with next?

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    Very good to read user experiences.
    I really want to use this one, for trying to get bigger forarms upperarms and shoulders (middle and rear).

    But what is a minimum time to use it. I thought about 2 weeks.

    Thanks for your input

    Dino

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    I injected in my forearms, worst idea ever, wanted to cry. Does anyone know the long term effects of this stuff? It works great for me, and I use post cycle now to lock all my gains in. I came off heavy duty bulker in which I ganed an astounding 35lbs(God bless drol), and kept 30+ of it using this drug, just loosing water. Used it on my rear/lateral delts with super sucsses.

    If you try this drug, START SLOWLY, experimenting with high doses the first coulple days will just make you miserable.

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    good article, this has had me interested for quite a while now.

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    THere is not a lot of info on this crap.... anyone use it?

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    just got done using it. I was using it with GH, igf-1, and insulin !

    Anybody with quesitons feel free to PM

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