Back on TRT and legal question

**nwjt** · 02-01-2011, 08:20 PM

Back in Oct I decided I would do some PCT and try to get off my trt does of 200 mg per week (without my doc knowing). I was on it for 6 months and had anxiety about being on it the rest of my life. I did my PCT (tamox) for weeks and I also did some HCG before getting off the trt to get my nuts back.

So mid dec I get blood work, not using any trt for 2 months and without my doc knowing, and my blood work was basically the same as last time (in Oct) before quitting the trt. I felt good about that and figured I must be cured but then some bad stuff started happening:

bad joint pains
Lethargy
Lots of fat gain despite not eating much
depression
Achy muscles, bad muscle cramps trying to lift weights.
Trouble keeping an erection
Low sex drive
Bad acne on my shoulders, never went away.

The symptoms were worse than before I got on trt.

So a few weeks ago I got back on my trt. I;ve taken 2 shots of 300 mg to get me going, and man I am feeling better, wife is happier, and I have snapped out of that depression.

I am thinking my dr may of not of had my blood tested and just gave me fake numbers. The numbers put my test at around 550 test when before I ever started trt I was at 270ish. Didin't make sense, still doesnt. I am dumfounded why a doc would do this, or how the heck my numbers were that high.

I don't like being on TRT at age 33 but man after that few months of being off it never again will I stop it.

My legal question is this, I kept refilling my script depite not using it, I wanted to get a small stash saved up in case for some reason I ever run out, loose health insurance etc.. I decide if I didn't need trt I would trash it, but now that i need it I want to keep it. It didn't occur to me I could be breaking the law until the other day. I thought I better find out.

I have an excess on hand, any idea how much I can keep on hand legally? PLEASE POST SOURCES OR REFERENCES if you have an answer to back it up. (not drug sources)

Any help there?

**SlimmerMe** · 02-01-2011, 08:37 PM

I have no idea....but the guys will chime in

**nwjt** · 02-01-2011, 08:42 PM

After you posted it that way you made me realize just how much I have of it. I will be putting some in the sink right now, do you know how much I can keep on hand?

**nwjt** · 02-01-2011, 08:44 PM

Also can you delete your post of the amount, it may be incriminating. I would like to keep my legal amount and destroy the rest, how ever much that is.

**zaggahamma** · 02-01-2011, 08:48 PM

shouldnt be a problem...it has your name on the rx/box it comes in...wtf can tell u that you gotta take your medicine...we aint that socialist YET

**nwjt** · 02-01-2011, 08:52 PM

I could see an argument by presecution that I had enough to sell someone if I wanted to. I have no intentions of that and really I am law abiding, I was just doing something and didn't think about it.

But now that I think about it, a person taking 500 mg per week for a 12 week cycle, would have to have three 2000 mg bottles on hand right (6000 mg)? So maybe its not enough to say I have the "intent of delivery" or whatever.

I sound paranoid, probably am being, I got lots of anxiety while off the trt (worrying about nothing but not life hindering) and still haven't balance out, am I being a paranoid wuss? If so just tell me to keep the test and I will use it up eventually.

Im sure once I get balance I'll wonder why I was so worried about it.

**crg** · 02-01-2011, 09:08 PM

Send it all to me, I'll get rid of it for you...just trying to help a brother out

**nwjt** · 02-01-2011, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by crg

Send it all to me, I'll get rid of it for you...just trying to help a brother out

Dont even joke brah. That shit gets in you in prison for years.

**zaggahamma** · 02-01-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by nwjt

I could see an argument by presecution that I had enough to sell someone if I wanted to. I have no intentions of that and really I am law abiding, I was just doing something and didn't think about it.

But now that I think about it, a person taking 500 mg per week for a 12 week cycle, would have to have three 2000 mg bottles on hand right (6000 mg)? So maybe its not enough to say I have the "intent of delivery" or whatever.

I sound paranoid, probably am being, I got lots of anxiety while off the trt (worrying about nothing but not life hindering) and still haven't balance out, am I being a paranoid wuss? If so just tell me to keep the test and I will use it up eventually.

Im sure once I get balance I'll wonder why I was so worried about it.

i wont say wuss i cannot do anything illegal but if u filled those scripts that were legitly written the only ppl that know u aint been takin it is us and this is all make believe conjecture anyway....i'd say you'd be crazy not to worry but i just cant see a crime...if you doctor shopped to get em that'd be different....i have to pay out of pocket for my doctor if i didnt do similar i'd be out more cash every couple months...dayam i hate non victimless crimes making good ppl worry bout shiat

**nwjt** · 02-01-2011, 09:28 PM

I just checked it out, my insurance carrier allows me to order a 90 day supply through an online pharmacy they contract with. So I assume a 90 day supply is ok to keep.

Let me see here, 90 days = 12 weeks at 300 mg per week = 3600 mg. At 2000 mg per bottle, I could keep about 1.5 bottles. I'll round it up to 2 bottles.

Just smashed 2 bottles in the snow. threw the glass away.

Ok, if I go to jail now then I am going out fighting.
Interesting thing, if my script were 80 mg per week like some, then a 2000 mg bottle is 25 week supply! So if I got on here and said I had a 25 week supply people would be like OMG dude. But since my script is 300 its not that much.

Thats my point, people are stupid and I am paranoid of them (not people here but in general).

**streeter** · 02-02-2011, 01:22 AM

Wow, That just seems a tad paranoid. I mean you have a script for it. You sure your on TRT they say lack of Test causes paranoia

**flatscat** · 02-02-2011, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by nwjt

I just checked it out, my insurance carrier allows me to order a 90 day supply through an online pharmacy they contract with. So I assume a 90 day supply is ok to keep.

Let me see here, 90 days = 12 weeks at 300 mg per week = 3600 mg. At 2000 mg per bottle, I could keep about 1.5 bottles. I'll round it up to 2 bottles.

Just smashed 2 bottles in the snow. threw the glass away.

Ok, if I go to jail now then I am going out fighting.

Interesting thing, if my script were 80 mg per week like some, then a 2000 mg bottle is 25 week supply! So if I got on here and said I had a 25 week supply people would be like OMG dude. But since my script is 300 its not that much.

Thats my point, people are stupid and I am paranoid of them (not people here but in general).

WTF bro - you didn't - did you???

Now THEY have you on video destroying evidence in an ongoing investigation which increases the penalty by ten years.

**zaggahamma** · 02-02-2011, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by flatscat

WTF bro - you didn't - did you???

Now THEY have you on video destroying evidence in an ongoing investigation which increases the penalty by ten years.

roflmao

**crg** · 02-02-2011, 10:21 AM

wow, ya cant make this sh*t up.....

**The Toad** · 02-02-2011, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

WTF bro - you didn't - did you???

Now THEY have you on video destroying evidence in an ongoing investigation which increases the penalty by ten years.

I think you made a big mistake... it's serious now

**APIs** · 02-02-2011, 12:23 PM

Is this for real? Can I please have these 4 minutes of my life back?

**SlimmerMe** · 02-02-2011, 12:23 PM

What is the update?

**streeter** · 02-02-2011, 12:26 PM

I just told the wife if I ever try to stop TRT and I get that paranoid to slap me across the face and inject 300mg of Test in my left nut sack. (She seemed to like the idea and She said "No Problem" I'm getting a little scared here)

**SlimmerMe** · 02-02-2011, 02:51 PM

^^^ another female saves the day!!! YIPPY! smart wife......

**flatscat** · 02-02-2011, 02:55 PM

SOOOOOOO glad we have females around.........As long as they are not "dumpy" lol

**zaggahamma** · 02-02-2011, 04:49 PM

no chubba bubbas

**Shol'va** · 02-02-2011, 05:18 PM

If these bottles were legitimately prescribed to you, and legally purchased them with your money, they are yours. Worst case scenario is you get accused of what is called "Hoarding" in the legal sense and your doctor would be notified and would either fire you as a patient of sternly warn you that this is not acceptable. This is only assuming you were caught with all of this legal test in the first place and as long as you aren't out telling everyone about your stash, then you are good to go. You can shoulda, woulda, coulda, till the cows come home. Don't sweat the small stuff, life is too short.

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 05:21 PM

well this was the wrong forum to ask this question, I was hoping the trt section would be different, but I cant expect much more since most here are illegal users amd would think im a moron for considering such things. Keep in mind I am not a criminal and am legally on test, not illegally obtaining them. I want to keep on the legit side.

If anyone ever finds out how much of a presciption can be possessed at one time let me know.

And yes, anxiety comes with low test and next week ill be like wtf.

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

SOOOOOOO glad we have females around.........As long as they are not "dumpy" lol

IF they are females, too many gays posing as them jacking it. (no homophobe)

**flatscat** · 02-02-2011, 05:27 PM

Thats a nice post. We will wait a week for you to say wtf and then all of us illegal's will be here to help you out.

Peace,

Flats

**Shol'va** · 02-02-2011, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by nwjt

well this was the wrong forum to ask this question, I was hoping the trt section would be different, but I cqnt expwct much more since most here are illegal drug users amd would thing im a moron for considering such things. Keep in mind I ak not a criminal and am legally on test, not illegally obtaining them. I want to keep on the legit side.

If anyone ever finds out how much of a presciption can be possessed at one time let me know.

And yes, anxiety comes with low test and next week ill be like wtf.

You lost me here bud. Did you not read my post? Look old folks keep stockpiles of legal meds all the time so what make you think you are different? But to answer your question about how much meds you can keep. Well the answer is all that was legitimately prescribed to you by your doctor. Period. It doesn't matter. The only thing that you need to be concerned with is the expiration dates of said meds. If you don't believe me on this which obviously you are freaking on then just call your local pharmacy and ask them. They will set you straight.

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

Thats a nice post. We will wait a week for you to say wtf and then all of us illegal's will be here to help you out.

Peace,

Flats

If you have a problem with being an illegal user not sure if you are) then apparently you have more issues than me. I didn't mean illegal user in a bad way, but simply to point out an illegal user is not going to understand what I am getting at.

Sorry you took offense.

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

You lost me here bud. Did you not read my post? Look old folks keep stockpiles of legal meds all the time so what make you think you are different? But to answer your question about how much meds you can keep. Well the answer is all that was legitimately prescribed to you by your doctor. Period. It doesn't matter. The only thing that you need to be concerned with is the expiration dates of said meds. If you don't believe me on this which obviously you are freaking on then just call your local pharmacy and ask them. They will set you straight.

Because steroids are a schedule III drug. I will not call teh pharmacy, they are very strict over there and half the time I vant get needles. Of course they would tell me its illegal.

I'll do some more research but I appreciate your input and what you are saying makes sense.

**flatscat** · 02-02-2011, 05:53 PM

Dude, you are freaking out over nothing. Don't know what other problems you have, but paranoia is not an indication of low T. I was hackin on ya, but now you got me worried. What else is going on with you? Really, you need to get to the bottom of this before you do something really stupid. Let's talk it out.

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

Dude, you are freaking out over nothing. Don't know what other problems you have, but paranoia is not an indication of low T. I was hackin on ya, but now you got me worried. What else is going on with you? Really, you need to get to the bottom of this before you do something really stupid. Let's talk it out.

Paranoia is a bit much to describe my actions, more like being concerned, but a general anxiety over everything complicates things. Its dissapearing and caused by a bad hormone imbalance I caused my self by trying to self medicate. But I tried and thats over so time to move on. I destroyed some T to be on the safe side, but Im no more nuts than someone who sleeps with an ar-15 by his/her pillow. Just in case never hurts. I have plenty of T on hand still and the stuff costs pennies when prescribed legally and covered by insurance.

Other than that I worry about "them "taking my guns, "them "taking my money, and "them" coming to my house to take my prescribed drugs, and "them" putting me in jail.

BTW, thanks for the reassurance.

**Shol'va** · 02-02-2011, 06:01 PM

Dude if half the time you cant get needles legally from the pharmacy I would definitely be searching for another pharmacy to patronize. Just sayin. They should be well stocked on 18-29 gauge BD- Needles. And just take a zanax for that paranoia legally prescribed of course.

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Dude if half the time you cant get needles legally from the pharmacy I would definitely be searching for another pharmacy to patronize. Just sayin. They should be well stocked on 18-29 gauge BD- Needles. And just take a zanax for that paranoia legally prescribed of course.

Walgreens! Ive heard the suck, the pharmacist think they are doctors, always questioning prescriptions etc.. I'm looking for a new one, will talk to my doc next time I am there. It was my first script of T and just went with what was close.

They DO have the needles, they just don't want to give them out. One time they only would sell me 1. I bought a good stash from ar-r so thats moot anyways.

PS no xanax needed, just consistent T over time.

**flatscat** · 02-02-2011, 06:13 PM

Aight

**Shol'va** · 02-02-2011, 06:15 PM

That's BS. You have the right to purchase what you need a dozen at a time or more if that is what you want especially if you are being prescribed multidose test, like a 5-10 ml bottle. If Walgreens is doing you wrong go to CVS or even walmart. It's usauly best to get some 18 gauge to draw from and 23 gauge to inject with. Just switch the needle tips. I inject in the quads. But everyone's preference is different. Don't take no for an answer. Stand up for your rights. Raise some h#ll. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

**zaggahamma** · 02-02-2011, 06:21 PM

ok...away from the paranoia....some pharmacies ask for rx's for syringes here in florida...cant remember if its law, company policy, etc. but some do and some dont...walmart is usually the best bet

**nwjt** · 02-02-2011, 06:23 PM

Thanks for the advice, I've come along way. Check out this thread I started a while ago:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ritique-(video)

I removed the video but man I got flamed for injecting like that. I'm sure I have more to learn, and honestly people illegally using are of far more use than the drs who prescribe TRT. My doc didn't even know what deca was (I asked for some he rejected it as a muscle building compound) and yet that same doc has me on 300 mg of test per week?

300 is a bit high I tend to like 200, which is also high but 300 allows me to refill once a month and keep a supply on hand (not too much though) in case it hits the fan or is no longer covered by my health insurance.

Thank you to all you illegal users out there, you're a great source of information!

**flatscat** · 02-02-2011, 06:30 PM

Bro, you need to chill or go away. Most guys on this board are really in need of trt. Sure some may blast every once in a while - or add some Deca for joint relief, but they and most are here to better their health and quality of life. SO, quit with the illegal flames. Comprende?

**Shol'va** · 02-02-2011, 06:34 PM

Guess I'm lost on the deca issue as well. Aint that an old time 78 rpm record? (joke) C'mon now not all of us here are illegal users. Some are legal users using illegally, and some are even illegal users using legally. It's a smorgusboard here.

**warchild** · 02-02-2011, 06:57 PM

parannoooiiidddddd

**Shol'va** · 02-02-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by warchild

parannoooiiidddddd

I totally agree. I tried my best to put him at ease with factual statements all verifiable by the local pharmacy. all he had to do is call anonymously if he were that paranoid or even call a pharmacy that he does not patronize and ask.... You can lead a horse to water but he ends up in a glue factory.......