12-15-2004, 07:17 AM #1
Guys! I don't feel so well! Please help.
I'm currently on this stack. Cyp at 600mgs per week, Tren at 100mgs per day, and Winny at 50mgs with Proviron at 50mg per day. I'm also using 4ius of GH per day. I'm on GH HRT. Doc has prescribed me to take 2ius at night time. Just want to throw that in just in case someone tells me the usual..."don't take gh before bed...blah, blah, blah".
I wake up at 4:30am and I'm at the gym at 5am and out by 6am. What I do is that I take 2ius of GH at 4:30am and then down a Protein/carb shake. The shake has 100grams of Maltodextrin btw. And halfway through my workout, I start to feel sluggish and somewhat sleepy. Dont' get me wrong...I'm **** stronger than ever. But the energy goes away **** quick!
When I get out of the gym, I down a dextrose shake with 100grams of carbs. I start to feel better but not **** great neither. I have a blood glucose meter btw. I just took a reading of my blood glucose at around 8am and it was at 75! Is that too low of a blood glucose reading? I'm sure it is!
I guess this explains why I'm feeling a little sluggish and sleepy.
But why would it show that low? Especially if downing 100grams of dextrose? And downing 100grams of maltodextrin just a couple of hours prior to that! Is it the GH that is doing that to me?
I do plan on using insulin with T3 very soon. But I only want to use the slin for postworkout. At maybe 4-6ius...thats it! So what is causing this low blood sugar? The GH????
Do you bros think that maybe I should take the GH and slin at the same time postworkout? And maybe another 2ius of GH with a little bit of slin somewhere in the middle of the day? And possibly another 2ius of GH before bed? But of course with no slin!
How about taking GH and a little bit of slin right when I wake up? Somebody....anybody please help me. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
12-15-2004, 07:28 AM #2Anabolic Member
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I do not beleive 4iu's hgh can affect it that much, so if anything I would say it has something to do with timing. Your body uses that first carb drink immediatley since you just woke up. Have you checked your bg during the dayand are they better? Perhaps you developed some insulin sensitivity issue but then again that probably would raise it. Bump for more knowledegble folks. Just a thought.
12-15-2004, 07:38 AM #3Originally Posted by bluethunder
12-15-2004, 12:10 PM #4
200g of carb with-in 2 hours is a lot of carbs
12-15-2004, 12:21 PM #5Associate Member
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first off hgh can give you hypoglycemia. the HGH your taking is probibly Nutropin aq, or some other american brand name hgh. ALOT more potent than the chinese crap im taking. but as johnnyb said, 200grams of carbs in 2 hours IS a ****load. i feel sluggish if i take 100grams of Maltodextrin before my workout. try this maybe: have a full meal before working out without any simple sugars, or as little as possible, then workout an hour or so later after most of it has been digested. Then crush the 100grams of dex after your workout. this should cause an insulin spike. go for low glycemic foods before, and high after. that way you get the insulin spike. i know the exact feeling your describing though. getting big takes balls. suck it up and before you know it, youll forget this whole incident. ever remember your first protien shake? or the first time you took 15 grams of creatine? or the first Prop injection?
12-15-2004, 12:31 PM #6Originally Posted by RedBaron
Then again....I do go to bed at 10pm. And I probably do not knock out until say 10:30pm. And then to wake up at 4:30am!!!! I know your probably going to say that I should go to bed earlier. But come on! I don't get out of work until 7pm. And it takes me about 30minutes to get home. When I get home, I do want to spend some time with the kids, wife and I do have some things to do myself you know!
So how should I take the GH then? Do you think that the GH is the one doing it? Maybe i should take a little slin..say 2ius with the 2ius of GH with my 1st shake? And then take 4-6ius of slin for post workout?
12-15-2004, 12:34 PM #7Originally Posted by marlin444
12-15-2004, 01:09 PM #8Originally Posted by RedBaron
12-15-2004, 01:26 PM #9Associate Member
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dude chill out. Jeez, sucks to be you then. Quit the gh if you are having that much of a problem or get up 10 min. earlier to eat the oatmeal and yougurt you could have had your wife prep the night before. Good bro's offering you good advice, stop whining and start listening.
12-15-2004, 01:44 PM #10Originally Posted by big4nuthin
12-15-2004, 04:16 PM #11New Member
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i agree with RedBaron....definitely put some oats in your shake.... all i do is take 1 cup of oats and grind them up in a coffe grinder... this is roughly 50 grams of slow-burning carbs....if you need some quick energy put maybe 50 grams of malto in there as well.... trust me you wont even taste it. But i also hear what the other guys have to say, if you separate your eggwhites in separate container in the pm, on cook your oats in the microwave breakfast will be done in 5 minutes top.... your decision.... try the shake though i think will do it for u
12-15-2004, 04:32 PM #12Originally Posted by Steve Johnson
But when I have this oatmeal shake, I noticed that I do not get that pumped up feeling AT 5 FRIGGIN AM IN THE GOD**** MORNING!!!!!! That is why I have to take stimulants during my cutting cycle to help with this. But since I'm NOT on a cutting cycle...then i'm NOT going to use any stims for now!
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