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    IGF-1LR3 intra muscluar or sub q injection?

    Currently
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    IM, sub-q tends to burn for me

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    I prefer IM as well....diluting with some vit B12.

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    I shoot sub-q and will switch to IM for my next cycle. Working great.
    Doesn't burn sub-q if it's reconstituted with AA, BA is probably a diff story though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gq3856
    Have read numerous fourms and am still confused some say intra muscular to muscle u are working out. others say sub q in stomach area.

    Currently using HGH(jintropin) was thinking of getting some IGF-1. Reading a lot of good things about it.

    So what is it IM or SUB Q plus what size pin?

    Also what is a good dilutent to buy for it and how much per day for how long?

    was thinking 40-60 mcg for 6 weeks.


    Last question MR or Omega.

    Thanks

    -go IM with lr3 igf-1.

    -29g 0.33x12.7mm.

    -buy pre-mixed and ad some BW in the pin.

    -if its your first run with igf then stick with 50mcg ed for 4 weeks.

    -does'nt matter,wich ever you prefer.

    -rodge

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    thanks for the info

    Rodge i thought ference i
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    Ok guy dumb question of the day. I've looked and can't find anything on sub q injection. Is this just a standard injection procedure? What does it stand for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gq3856
    Rodge i thought IGF-1lr3 came in a poder form like HGH. is that wrong also read it was not good to buy prediluted form.

    If it is fine to buy prediluted does MR or Omega sell it that way. Buying it from one of these guys dont know any where else to get it.


    I also see some people take sub q others IM is there a difference in effectiveness i would perfer sub q.
    you can buy igf in lyophilized powder or suspended in AA either way is fine.

    IM is the way to go with lr3 igf-1.

    -rodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuildaBeast
    Ok guy dumb question of the day. I've looked and can't find anything on sub q injection. Is this just a standard injection procedure? What does it stand for?

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    subq. injection is right under the skin in the layer of fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuildaBeast
    Ok guy dumb question of the day. I've looked and can't find anything on sub q injection. Is this just a standard injection procedure? What does it stand for?

    Thanks
    Stands for subcutaneous injection. Here's a good site explaning it:

    http://www.fairview.org/healthlibrar...binasp_art.htm

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    ^^ hmmm, i thought you injected the solution before letting go of the skinfold?

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    If it is Im

    IM (sucks)(guess im a baby lol) but
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    Quote Originally Posted by gq3856
    IM (sucks)(guess im a baby lol) but how dont u have to split it up into the muscle being worked if so where to u inject into each muscle ie biceps or pecs.

    Or my IM do u mean shooting in your thigh or butt.

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    just shoot it IM with a slinpin in a place were there is'nt much fat/skin ie bicep/tricep.you won't feel a thing of it.

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    thanks for the info

    But if i
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    Quote Originally Posted by gq3856
    But if i do biceps and triceps one day should i split up the injections and do 25% in each bi and tri.
    no,just shoot it all in 1 bicep the first day then all in the other bicep the next.thats all i do switch from bicep to bicep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodge nl.
    no,just shoot it all in 1 bicep the first day then all in the other bicep the next.thats all i do switch from bicep to bicep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    IM, sub-q tends to burn for me

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    I agree with Johnny here... I'M is the better way of admin. the igf... I no of folks doing it sub q. but they seem to complain of burning, and leaving red welps on there belly.

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    Does the profits gain in force with igf1 are maintained in end?
    under which name to find igf 1lr3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gq3856
    But if i do biceps and triceps one day should i split up the injections and do 25% in each bi and tri.
    You don't need to split injections with LR3 (Long version) IGF as it doesn't have any site specific growth advantage like regular IGF. Just do what Rodge said.

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    so wouldnt it be easier to shoot in your gluts or thighs then

    and allhe qu
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    Well more than one slin pin would be ideal.

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    no cause thats were the skin and fat is mostly thicker and thus can't you shoot deep in the muscle.

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    By the way Rodge you've been nominated by a few of us in the Lounge for VET status.

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    Sorry to hijack but it's kind of related to this ...

    For both igf-1 and GH intramuscular injections, should you continually rotate the site of injection? I mean will it become less effective if you keep injecting into the same muscle all the time? I get the feeling that the receptors could become burntout/resistant or watever and not properly uptake the solution.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy
    By the way Rodge you've been nominated by a few of us in the Lounge for VET status.
    thnx i feel honored to be nominated.

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    so besides the burining from sq it really makes no difference as far as absorption goes right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy
    By the way Rodge you've been nominated by a few of us in the Lounge for VET status.

    I'm with you all day on that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Punisher
    so besides the burining from sq it really makes no difference as far as absorption goes right?

    Does it make a difference

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    no I dont think so the same with GH some use it IM thinking that it will be absorbed better but it makes no difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gq3856
    Does it make a difference

    probably not much but using it IM avoids getting welts and its absorpt quicker and thus faster higher bloodlevels and since your igf receptors are upregulated pwo it seems better to get it there were its needed quicker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rodge nl.
    probably not much but using it IM avoids getting welts and its absorpt quicker and thus faster higher bloodlevels and since your igf receptors are upregulated pwo it seems better to get it there were its needed quicker.


    -rodge
    Rodge I dont mean to argue with u or question your knowlede! but the diference ia about 5 to 10 min from IM to sq
    And one question Rodge if it is shot before workout it makes no diference right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Punisher
    Rodge I dont mean to argue with u or question your knowlede! but the diference ia about 5 to 10 min from IM to sq
    And one question Rodge if it is shot before workout it makes no diference right?
    as i said it prob does'nt make much difference but even if its just a minute quicker then there is some advantage although maybe not noticeble.

    i think pwo is the way to go.

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    cool my brother!

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    thanks for the info

    Good looking out!

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