Tommy T's First Cycle Log: Test E Only

[Tommy_T]

Sounds like you cycle is going well. Keep up the good work.

I'm a long time lurker myself. I just felt compelled to say I wouldn't call you an ectomorph haha. I am pretty close to your age and height and it took me 5200 calories (clean calories) a day just to get up to 170 lbs. If I could only eat 3600 calories maybe I wouldn't be so broke all the time haha.

Also my own 2 cents on the water retention, from what I'm aware excess water retention is a sign of higher estrogen in your body, due to the increased test, which can lead to all kinds of complications. Keep an eye on it.

Haha holy shit man 5200 calories! You sure you don't have a tapeworm!?! Nah but that's awesome, I hate it when people say "it's impossible for me to gain weight". Seriously just keep increasing calories and you're bound to start gaining eventually.

But at 3600 calories I was in a pretty severe calorie deficit, I'd say my maintenance is about 4500 calories, and about 5000 calories to bulk. I'm done cutting though, I think I'm going to slowly start increasing calories and hopefully put on a little more lean mass from this cycle.

[Tommy_T]

Week 3: Day 19
Left quad inject today, very smooth, starting to get pretty good at this! My workout intensity died down a bit these last few days, but I'm attributing that to lack of sleep and being in high caloric deficit. The lack of sleep was due to a busy week of school, but wrote my last midterm yesterday so I should be getting back into a normal routine now. I've also decided to abandon my cut and slowly start increasing calories to reap the full benefits of this cycle. I'll at least be eating at maintenance for the next few weeks and take it from there.

I was noticing a lot of water retention the last few days. I've always retained a lot of water so I'm not sure if it was due to the fact that I had been cutting that made the bloat look more obvious or if its due to the test? I'll give it a few more days and if I'm still noticing symptoms I'll increase my AI dosage.

[rp7r]

Where dem pics at bro?

[Tommy_T]

So my last 2-3 workouts have been complete shit. Muscles are sore, tired in the gym, and just no will to lift heavy. Definitely not feeling like someone who has been taking test for almost 3 weeks. Hoping this just has something to do with stress from midterms or possibly just been going a little to intense in the gym these last few weeks. Also tried out a new pre-workout that is complete garbage. Either way going to take a day off and hopefully come back feeling fresh on Monday.

I know I said I would post pics after week 3, but I honestly haven't seen much change yet so maybe I'll post some next week instead.

[Tommy_T]

Week 4: Day 23
Another injection today, still sticking glutes.


I've also adjusted my diet and I'm up to a little over 4000 calories: 400g of protein/400g of carbs/ 98g of fat, somewhere around what I was eating pre-cycle. I should have known better then to try experimenting with diet while on cycle, so for now I'll stick with something I know that works and use the mirror as a tool to decide if I need to change anything.

[anthony69]

Nice work! Read post got me pumped to get on the gear! Keep adding pics, so far so good! Thumbs up!

[Tommy_T]

Nice work! Read post got me pumped to get on the gear! Keep adding pics, so far so good! Thumbs up!

Deff man! I'll post some by the end of this week.

[Tommy_T]

Week 4: Day 27
Another inject today. Almost 1 month now and still nothing seems to really be kicking in. Starting to think maybe I got ripped off, I just hope I haven't been injecting cooking oil this entire time. I've experienced some minor strength gains but nothing really I couldn't have achieved naturally. Also not seeing any huge differences in the mirror. I'll post pictures either today or tomorrow and let you guys be the judge. Ughh had the opportunity to add a kickstarter for my cycle and turned it down, starting to regret that now.

Also, at this point I don't think I'm going to take my HCG , don't want to have to inject anymore then needed. I'll probably save it for another more intense cycle if I decide to go down that road. I still have it on hand though just in case.

[Mr. Small]

Week 4: Day 27
Another inject today. Almost 1 month now and still nothing seems to really be kicking in. Starting to think maybe I got ripped off, I just hope I haven't been injecting cooking oil this entire time. I've experienced some minor strength gains but nothing really I couldn't have achieved naturally. Also not seeing any huge differences in the mirror. I'll post pictures either today or tomorrow and let you guys be the judge. Ughh had the opportunity to add a kickstarter for my cycle and turned it down, starting to regret that now.

Also, at this point I don't think I'm going to take my HCG, don't want to have to inject anymore then needed. I'll probably save it for another more intense cycle if I decide to go down that road. I still have it on hand though just in case.

Test E won't kick in until week 5, maybe even the week after.

[Tommy_T]

Test E won't kick in until week 5, maybe even the week after.

You're probably right bro. I'm just really impatient haha! And I should probably take into account that I'm 230lbs+ so it may just take someone my size a little longer for the test to build up in my system as opposed to someone who's under 200lbs...

[TrevHoff]

Tommy T.... Appreciate the log you are providing. I am looking at doing my first cycle myself here in the very near future. Just a matter of WHERE I can obtain the gear, but that's a whole other story!

Keep up the good work and keep the updates coming!

[Tommy_T]

Tommy T.... Appreciate the log you are providing. I am looking at doing my first cycle myself here in the very near future. Just a matter of WHERE I can obtain the gear, but that's a whole other story!

Keep up the good work and keep the updates coming!

Hey no problem man! Just happy people are finding it useful, that's what I set out to do when I started this log. Hit me up if you ever have any questions

[Tommy_T]

Week 5: Day 34

In unrelated news I got myself a hot date tomorrow night! She wants to go out for drinks. I know I shouldn't drink while on cycle, but I don't want to be that guy that sips on ****ing club soda all night either. Prob just have 3 or 4 beers and keep it under control. I've been following my diet to a T so I can't see this really affecting me much.

DB Should Press: 90x7, 90x9, 90x7 + 45x10
Barbell lateral raise: 30x13, 30x12, 30x11
DB Front Raise: 30x10, 30x10
Smith Machine Shrug: 250x7, 230x9, 230x7
Deadlift: 275x8, 275x6, 275x6 + 185x4
DB Row: 100x8, 100x9, 100x8
Rack Chinups: 10, 8, 6
Cable Pull ups: 150x8, 150x6
Seated Calf: 135x15, 135x9, 135x9

[TrevHoff]

Atta Boy! GREAT to hear both the gains and the hot date haha. I am sure a little carbo loading with your positive gains won't alter anything negatively.

Be careful big cat, I had this same mentality regardless of injury that I just HAD to get in the gym no matter what to continue making gains/progress (mind you NOT on any gear); repercussion of this working out persistently under injury was the bicep tendon snapping right off the bone! Not trying to scare you as I am sure you're fine; just want you to keep this in perspective. That injury itself set me back a solid year (almost 1.5 years), recovering from surgery. Making solid progress since my come back and now have this damn pain in my neck that is SLOWLY going away 3 weeks now (this one I am being smart about as much as I want to be in that gym, always feel I am losing what I got and getting soft when I am not in there on a persistent bases). Further to this, gym has been so much of a priority for me lately it has ended my most recent relationship. I am still not where I need/want to be physically and would like someone supportive about it. Hopefully this hot date may go somewhere and keep things in perspective there as well haha. OK OK done "lecturing" on my own personal problems! BUT do hope you keep in mind.

Anywho, keep smart about things and keep the updates coming!

[Tommy_T]

Atta Boy! GREAT to hear both the gains and the hot date haha. I am sure a little carbo loading with your positive gains won't alter anything negatively.

Be careful big cat, I had this same mentality regardless of injury that I just HAD to get in the gym no matter what to continue making gains/progress (mind you NOT on any gear); repercussion of this working out persistently under injury was the bicep tendon snapping right off the bone! Not trying to scare you as I am sure you're fine; just want you to keep this in perspective. That injury itself set me back a solid year (almost 1.5 years), recovering from surgery. Making solid progress since my come back and now have this damn pain in my neck that is SLOWLY going away 3 weeks now (this one I am being smart about as much as I want to be in that gym, always feel I am losing what I got and getting soft when I am not in there on a persistent bases). Further to this, gym has been so much of a priority for me lately it has ended my most recent relationship. I am still not where I need/want to be physically and would like someone supportive about it. Hopefully this hot date may go somewhere and keep things in perspective there as well haha. OK OK done "lecturing" on my own personal problems! BUT do hope you keep in mind.

Anywho, keep smart about things and keep the updates coming!

Yea man I have that same mentality! I think I'm invincible, but if I keep thinking that way it's only a matter of time before I really hurt myself gear or no gear. And it's not even that I just want to keep pushing myself for gains/progress (which I do), it's more that if I don't give my 110% in the gym everyday I've let myself down. But having to take 1.5 years off for an injury would be a much, much greater let down! That being said I've decided to take today off to give the neck some rest.

Sorry to hear about your girl man! But if you're thinking of doing a cycle it's good that you have your priorities in order. You'll probably be paying a lot of $ and investing a lot of time for a cycle so you want to make the most of it. They always say first cycle is the best. Find a chick who supports you and is willing to push you and you'll be golden!

[kelkel]

Week 4: Day 27
Also, at this point I don't think I'm going to take my HCG, don't want to have to inject anymore then needed. I'll probably save it for another more intense cycle if I decide to go down that road. I still have it on hand though just in case.

Bad idea for many reasons. Testicular atrophy is not really the concern, that's just cosmetic. Your concern should be maintaining endogenous production thus making restarting during pct easier and more successful. Read Austinites educational thread on HCG . And you don't need to inject more, simply add it to your test syringe.

[Tommy_T]

Bad idea for many reasons. Testicular atrophy is not really the concern, that's just cosmetic. Your concern should be maintaining endogenous production thus making restarting during pct easier and more successful. Read Austinites educational thread on HCG. And you don't need to inject more, simply add it to your test syringe.

This was actually a great read. Not going to lie I didn't do much research into the HCG , but this seems to cover just about everything I wanted to know about it. I guess if I mix it in with my Test it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Only thing is I'm going to have to pick up some 23g needles. It's bad enough pushing the 1mL of test with a 25g, I can only imagine pushing the test + hcg with a 25g. I need to make another trip to the pharmacy on tuesday, I'll see if can pick up some bacteriostatic water. I'm going into week 6, but I suppose it's better to start now then never. Haven't had any noticeable atrophy yet, so perhaps I'm still producing some natural test.

[rp7r]

I can't believe you're even using a 25g needle for the test, it takes me long enough with the 23g, and I totally understand why people use 18g draw needles.

I picked up some bacteriostatic water its cheap as ****, you may as well, theres no need to be mixing the hcg in with the test.

I hope my test kicks in soon I'm about half a week behind you I think.

[kelkel]

This was actually a great read. Not going to lie I didn't do much research into the HCG , but this seems to cover just about everything I wanted to know about it. I guess if I mix it in with my Test it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Only thing is I'm going to have to pick up some 23g needles. It's bad enough pushing the 1mL of test with a 25g, I can only imagine pushing the test + hcg with a 25g. I need to make another trip to the pharmacy on tuesday, I'll see if can pick up some bacteriostatic water. I'm going into week 6, but I suppose it's better to start now then never. Haven't had any noticeable atrophy yet, so perhaps I'm still producing some natural test.

No, you're not. Some just don't experience noticeable atrophy. And yes, start now.

[Tommy_T]

I can't believe you're even using a 25g needle for the test, it takes me long enough with the 23g, and I totally understand why people use 18g draw needles.

I picked up some bacteriostatic water its cheap as ****, you may as well, theres no need to be mixing the hcg in with the test.

I hope my test kicks in soon I'm about half a week behind you I think.

Haha no no I didn't mean use the test as a solution for the hcg. I'd still mix the hcg with bacteriostatic water, I just meant I would use the same syringe to inject the test and hcg to save me from having to do another injection.

[Tommy_T]

Week 6: Day 38
Pretty much halfway through the cycle at this point. I'm taking kelkel's advice and going to be using the hcg after all. I was hoping to take it today with my shot of test, but went to the pharmacy and the chick there had never even heard of bacteriostatic water... She suggested sterile or distilled water? But I figured I'd try a different pharmacy tomorrow and hopefully have better luck.

Today's workout was hardly worth posting. It started off horribly, as I had a really bad migraine, which lifting only made it worse, but ended strong as I started feeling better half way though. Other then that workouts have been great. Up to 237 lbs!

Also noticed oily skin on my shoulders and neck which has lead to some acne. Nothing too bad though, and it's hardly noticeable as I've been tanning lately. The oily skin seems to be a hygiene thing though, as long as I shower in the morning and after my workout I'm fine.

Finally I figured I would post my diet for those who are interested. Pretty much been following this every day for the last 3 weeks

[mark woods]

Very good read I've actually started my first cycle this week of test e 400mg a week but ive being doing sub q injections with a 29g insulin needle I draw with a 21g and back load the insulin needle n jab around my belly button 2 jab of test at a time and I actually could not even feel the needle pierce the skin I honestly dont know why people wouldn't do sub q.im a little worried it took you 5 weeks to see much affects I mean did you notice much in libido increase from what I tought thats the first thing you will notice keep us posted mate

[Tommy_T]

Very good read I've actually started my first cycle this week of test e 400mg a week but ive being doing sub q injections with a 29g insulin needle I draw with a 21g and back load the insulin needle n jab around my belly button 2 jab of test at a time and I actually could not even feel the needle pierce the skin I honestly dont know why people wouldn't do sub q.im a little worried it took you 5 weeks to see much affects I mean did you notice much in libido increase from what I tought thats the first thing you will notice keep us posted mate

Hmm from everything I've read intramuscular seems to be the recommended way to inject test, but I don't know enough about sub-q injections to argue it. I may do my hcg injections sub q using a slim pin.

Yea it's kinda hard to tell exactly when I started feeling the effects as it wasn't something that just happened over night. All I know is that I feel a hell of a lot better then I did 6 weeks ago before I started my cycle. As for libido, I'm only 23 years old so it was already crazy high even before I started cycle, and honestly I've always just been horny 24/7 so it's kinda hard to tell a difference haha!

[Tommy_T]

Week 7: Day 45
Sorry it's been so long since I last updated. Not going to lie, I fell off the wagon pretty hard these last few days. Only went to the gym 1 day out of the last 6 and was eating like shit on those days I didn't go. I just got really, really down on myself... I've been taking this cycle very seriously, neglecting friends and family, haven't been getting laid etc... All that just so I didn't miss a meal or a workout. I guess it's just taken it's toll on me. I'm an all or nothing kinda guy. I do something right or I don't do it all. If I broke down after only 6 weeks of cycling it makes me question whether I was really ready to do this cycle in the first place... Just something for those thinking about doing their first cycle to consider.

That being said I came back to the gym today thinking that after nearly a week off, I would have one of those first day back, shit workouts... NOPE! Came back looking better then I did before and pretty much just as strong? WTF!? Thinking maybe I was pushing myself to hard and maybe needed those rest days? Or maybe the Test really is a miracle drug? Because any time I've taken a few days off in the past I felt like I lost weeks of progress.

Either way I'm back on track now and plan on finishing off the cycle!!!

[mark woods]

Everybody goes tru bad patches with or without gear it can get boring with meals and that but stick at it mate 6 days off probably felt a long time but obviously done you good!

[mindset1421]

U can order bacteriostaic water right to ur house. Via e net

[lil johnny]

This is a very good read. Looking forward to pic updates! Long time lurker here as well, may do something like this for my first cycle.

[Justme1]

Great read mate. Will be following along.

I did my first pin of a 500mg test blend per week, today.

Concerned that it took you so long to feel the effects. Hope it works quicker for me. I'm very impatient and excited to start seeing results.

[TrevHoff]

Great read mate. Will be following along.

I did my first pin of a 500mg test blend per week, today.

Concerned that it took you so long to feel the effects. Hope it works quicker for me. I'm very impatient and excited to start seeing results.

Thats what makes you want to introduce TBol or DBol to your cycle... What is your current cycle?

[TrevHoff]

Week 7: Day 45
Sorry it's been so long since I last updated. Not going to lie, I fell off the wagon pretty hard these last few days. Only went to the gym 1 day out of the last 6 and was eating like shit on those days I didn't go. I just got really, really down on myself... I've been taking this cycle very seriously, neglecting friends and family, haven't been getting laid etc... All that just so I didn't miss a meal or a workout. I guess it's just taken it's toll on me. I'm an all or nothing kinda guy. I do something right or I don't do it all. If I broke down after only 6 weeks of cycling it makes me question whether I was really ready to do this cycle in the first place... Just something for those thinking about doing their first cycle to consider.

That being said I came back to the gym today thinking that after nearly a week off, I would have one of those first day back, shit workouts... NOPE! Came back looking better then I did before and pretty much just as strong? WTF!? Thinking maybe I was pushing myself to hard and maybe needed those rest days? Or maybe the Test really is a miracle drug? Because any time I've taken a few days off in the past I felt like I lost weeks of progress.

Either way I'm back on track now and plan on finishing off the cycle!!!

Tommy... Just around the corner to starting my first cycle, keep things up and keep us informed on how things are going for you.

[Tommy_T]

WEEK 9: DAY???

Now all this might seem like good news for someone who is trying to put on weight and get bigger but **** that's not really my main goal. I'll be completely honest a test only cycle was not my first choice. I would have much rather tried a cycle with some tren or anavar to get me ripped considering I went into this cycle with a pretty high bodyfat %. But most people seem to advise against this and say to keep it simple for the first cycle. Well atleast now I know how my body reacts to test and I haven't seen any negative sides yet.

I was really hoping to have posted pics by now but I'm kinda embarrassed by my lose of definition in the last few weeks. I was probably looking my best around week 6, I should have taken some decent photos then. I'll post some pics this week, let you guys be the judge, just try and take it easy on me.

Finally for those of you who are about to start your first test cycle, if I can give you one piece of advice is that you should probably be at a pretty low bodyfat % before starting because the weight gain is hard to control. If you're already a high bf% you will probably blow up like a balloon. I think I read somewhere that you should be under 15%, which I clearly didn't listen to and now kinda regret.

[Tommy_T]

As promised here are some photos from week 9. I'm about 238 here so +8lbs from start. Bigger but a little less defined. Take a look at my precycle photos and these and let me know what you guys think.



I've also decided to reduce my calories by 500cal today in order to cut down a bit and now that the weathers getting a bit nicer I'm going to start doing a little bit of cardio

[blemshow]

Ur guna fly away with thos wings!

[TrevHoff]

How is the Amiridex 0.5mg EOD working for you? I see some recommendations of 0.25mg EOD. What made you go with 0.5mg? To each their own I know BUT trying to gauge maybe where I should potentially be at.

I am about to start here in a few weeks and scared SHITLESS of gyno (notably I got it as an adolescent and had surgery in my early 20's to remove it).

[Lee_1978]

How is the Amiridex 0.5mg EOD working for you? I see some recommendations of 0.25mg EOD. What made you go with 0.5mg? To each their own I know BUT trying to gauge maybe where I should potentially be at.

I am about to start here in a few weeks and scared SHITLESS of gyno (notably I got it as an adolescent and had surgery in my early 20's to remove it).

Gyno is definitely my main concern when I start my cycle. I'm currently undecided between Adex and Aromasin as an AI - but I would be inclined to start Adex at a higher dose, perhaps 0.25 mg ED if you're gyno prone.

[TrevHoff]

Gyno is definitely my main concern when I start my cycle. I'm currently undecided between Adex and Aromasin as an AI - but I would be inclined to start Adex at a higher dose, perhaps 0.25 mg ED if you're gyno prone.

Thanks man, your answer made me think to start a thread. In the back of my mind, I was thinking of maybe going exactly with this as well 0.25mg/DAY.

[Tommy_T]

How is the Amiridex 0.5mg EOD working for you? I see some recommendations of 0.25mg EOD. What made you go with 0.5mg? To each their own I know BUT trying to gauge maybe where I should potentially be at.

I am about to start here in a few weeks and scared SHITLESS of gyno (notably I got it as an adolescent and had surgery in my early 20's to remove it).

My 1mg Amiridex pills are so small it would be almost impossible to cut them up into 0.25mg segments, I already have trouble cutting them in half to get the 0.5mg. I would need a pretty precise scale to do so. I've just always heard that 0.5mg is a good starting point, and that you should see how you react after a few weeks and then decide whether to up your dose or decrease it.

I've always retained a lot of water, even before the cycle, so it's hard to tell if my cycle has caused any added water retention. As far as gyno I haven't experienced any so far and I actually forget to take my AI quite often. It's probably a good idea to have some Nolva on hand though, just in case you do begin to experience some gyno.

[lil johnny]

Hey Tommy, thanks for sharing this info. Would you mind giving an update on how much strength you've gained through week 9? You said you hit some new PRs...

[Tommy_T]

Hey Tommy, thanks for sharing this info. Would you mind giving an update on how much strength you've gained through week 9? You said you hit some new PRs...

[Tommy_T]

Week 10: Day???
Finished off my second bottle of test last week, even though it should have technically lasted me until the end of week 10? Not sure If I've been dosing it a little higher then I was supposed to or just wasting it somewhere but still have 1 vial left so all good. I'll probably just keep going until that last vial is done, which should bring my cycle to 13 possibly 14 weeks total (not counting pct). Otherwise I'll just have that last bottle of test sitting around collecting dust.

I wrote my last exam over the weekend and decided to go out with some friends to celebrate. Was planning on only having a few drinks, but of course that didn't happen... Ended up getting pretty drunk, stuck to vodka waters though. Unfortunately was pretty ****ing hungover the next day, didn't make it to the gym that day nor the next. Feel like it might take me a few days to get back to where I was... but **** it!! Gotta have a little bit of fun every once in a while!

Saw some friends I hadn't seen in a while that night and all I kept getting was those dumbass comments "Bro, why would you want to be that big" or "Are you even able to wipe your own ass". Like bitch please, this isn't even my FINAL FORMM!! You guys didn't seem to mind me being to big when your dumbass's were starting stuff at the bar and you needed me to intervene (bouncers came before anything actually happened). You also didn't seem to mind when one of the girls was so drunk she tried running out into oncomming traffic and I had to throw her on my back and carry her home. Ughh I feel like I hang out with children sometimes. Still ended up being a goodnight though! Ended up banging some girl in the bathroom stalls which was a first for me. I don't think this had anything to do with the confidence from roids or anything like that, I think I was more just lucky to find the biggest slut in the club lol! Don't worry I wrapped er up !