new pictures

**crazypat123** · 01-22-2010, 06:54 PM

hey guys just took some pictures to get some feedback since the last time i posted pictures, heres a link from like 2 months ago

Pics from today

Weight: 200 lbs
Height: 6 foot
BF%: 21%
Age: 18

Supplements being used:

ultimate nutrition iso sensations whey protein

PRECISION sport supplements extra strength CLA - 80

ALLMAX NUTRITION RAZOR 8

DYMATIZE Nutrition Recoup advanced recovery system

**youngerlion** · 01-22-2010, 06:57 PM

not bad. keep up the good work and keep on point with that diet. I definitely see some bf loss. build up that chest.

**Hate Being Small** · 01-22-2010, 07:03 PM

Ye keep us posted with pic updates bro keep up the good work stay commited

**TOP** · 01-22-2010, 07:11 PM

Lookin good!! Dont stop consistency is your partner!!

**crazypat123** · 01-22-2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by youngerlion

not bad. keep up the good work and keep on point with that diet. I definitely see some bf loss. build up that chest.

im finding it impossible to build up my chest! i heard doing incline as the first primary chest workout makes the chest stand out more, i think ill try doing that.

**youngerlion** · 01-22-2010, 07:27 PM

I hear this also. do what makes you get the best pump and results. go with dumbbells if possible. especially for flat bench (imo). mix it up to keep your body out of homeostasis and force growth. keep working out consistently ; good job man.

**crazypat123** · 01-22-2010, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by **TOP**

Lookin good!! Dont stop consistency is your partner!!

thanks allot top!! great to hear from you!

**KZRSOIZE** · 01-23-2010, 02:27 AM

NO NO NO NO!!!! Declines in my opinion are used for variation. INCLINE INCLINE INCLINE till the cows come home!!!!!

I struggled with chest development for a while, and I walked into a nutrition store for supplements after being on a good one and the owner says dude your looking good. He continued by critiquing my chest and suggested incline in all its form.

I started doing incline db flyes, db presses, bb presses, along with plenty of cable flies in variation and built in a few months what id been trying to do for several years.

There are plenty of ideas on what shocks the pecs into growth and we all react differently but id put my money that incline is the big daddy of all pec development exercises. Another techinique ive incorporated on bb press is going as wide as safely possible and lowering bar to neck instead of pec area. If you try this, use light weight and really stretch the pectorals. I know alot of guys on the board are completely against overtraining as i am but some guys misinterpret overtraining with not training to failure.

IMO if youve trained your chest properly it will burn like hell and have a nice round pump.

Good luck to you and keep up the good work, and keep us posted on your progress.

***FireGuy*** · 01-23-2010, 09:49 AM

Progressing nicely but you should have lost more than 5lbs in two months. Suggest upping your cardio.

**JinNtonic** · 01-23-2010, 09:59 AM

Some fat loss. Keep learning & improving.

I used to do mostly flat bench and I switched to alot of incline bench & flat dumbell flys & my chest improved greatly.

**crazypat123** · 01-23-2010, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Progressing nicely but you should have lost more than 5lbs in two months. Suggest upping your cardio.

im also gaining in all my lifts so im gaining allot of muscle as well i shot up to 211 and then sank down to 196 and 200 is just where im at now, so i think im slowly trading in fat for muscle. what do you think i should do?

**kallmenelly** · 01-23-2010, 08:48 PM

after your chest workout keep doing push ups tell failure.

**bjpennnn** · 01-23-2010, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by **TOP**

Lookin good!! Dont stop consistency is your partner!!

i like this

**crazypat123** · 01-23-2010, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

i like this

haha yea me 2

**crazypat123** · 01-23-2010, 10:21 PM

ooh actually i have another question regarding flat bench, where should i place my hands on the bar, my bar has two slivered rings around each side, normally i do pinky on the rings, should i be doing a wider grip? like middle finger on the rings?

**kallmenelly** · 01-23-2010, 11:46 PM

thats where i place my hands. pinky to each ring.

**crazypat123** · 01-24-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Progressing nicely but you should have lost more than 5lbs in two months. Suggest upping your cardio.

just started using thoes supplements i listed above and this morning i weighed myself as 193

**ray0414** · 01-25-2010, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Progressing nicely but you should have lost more than 5lbs in two months. Suggest upping your cardio.

maybe he added enough muscle to make up the difference?

**SnaX** · 01-26-2010, 12:43 AM

Chest proves to be tricky for a lot of us. Not only doing the workout, but the technique is the deciding factor.
A lot of times I will use a moderate weight, and do sloooow movements in my reps. When engaging in dumbell flies I focus on a slower movement and getting a squeeze at the top of my motion.
I also find that not touching the dumbells together on such an exercise will keep the pecs from resting, which really causes them to build.
Perhaps give this a try. See if it works for you.

Play with your routine, it takes time, and sometimes a long time to figure out what works for you. What works for one person may not work for another. So have a good time with it, it's supposed to be a challenge! Why else do it if it was not

Stay with it bro! You're doing well

**crazypat123** · 01-31-2010, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by ray0414

maybe he added enough muscle to make up the difference?

thats what i was thinking,

**crazypat123** · 01-31-2010, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by SnaX

Chest proves to be tricky for a lot of us. Not only doing the workout, but the technique is the deciding factor.
A lot of times I will use a moderate weight, and do sloooow movements in my reps. When engaging in dumbell flies I focus on a slower movement and getting a squeeze at the top of my motion.
I also find that not touching the dumbells together on such an exercise will keep the pecs from resting, which really causes them to build.
Perhaps give this a try. See if it works for you.

Play with your routine, it takes time, and sometimes a long time to figure out what works for you. What works for one person may not work for another. So have a good time with it, it's supposed to be a challenge! Why else do it if it was not

Stay with it bro! You're doing well

thanks!

i changed my chest routine, this is what im doing now

DB incline bench

Flat BB bench

Cable Flyes

Incline Flyes

pushups till failure, soo far i really liked doing this last tuesday

**slimy** · 01-31-2010, 03:25 PM

This thread is about your chest. But I noticed you wearing pants in the pics. Don't forget your legs, man. Squats and Deadlifts will build a solid foundation, and increase enough muscle fibers that may improve your bench. Sounds funny, but it works.

Looking good, by the way. Just keep at it.

**Twist** · 02-01-2010, 01:36 AM

I think you should have a two week split of one week compound movements only and the following week should be a regular bodypart workout.

ex one monday = military, flat bench, dips

next monday = chest and triceps

**crazypat123** · 02-05-2010, 01:59 PM

BUMP,

in this photo i was 21% body fat at 200 pounds,

im currently at 189lbs , what do you think my BF% would be at?

**6ft5** · 02-15-2010, 10:29 PM

Hard to say due to water but if the math is right prob sumware round 16? Pics look like 18? I would work iincline like ( start workout w pre exaust bb incline and flat db press flys. switch it every week. drop set to falure on bb only! work last set heavy and hard to drop 50lb perfect form for growth and a good teardown every week.. dips every week add weight focus on lower chest, then tri, lower chest, then tri, 4sets 15 15 10 10).. use a pec fly mach. Blastem all out 4 sets 15 to 12 or falure I'd do that for 3 month. Its confusing that's good, 3 heads in chest worked. w a compaound for tris. U can super set flys and dips every other week. This is real simular to what I do. I do flys w 60s but can do more weight strict on the pec fly w better iso than cables. Cables are for shaping anyway IM0. Note for chest when at bottom of rep use 90 degree or wider for chest, 90 degree or narrow will use more tris. I don't use marks, use form. U will get it. ALSO I like what TWIST says. Or compound for 3 weeks bb only, then break and shape only db for one week, WOW so many choices.