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    1-AD question

    Hey fellas. I just got a qucik question..i am runnning a 1ad and4ad stack for 4 weeks at 600mg each
    thats 6 1ad caps and 2 4ad caps
    my question is how shoul i spread out the 1ad one pill six times a day or two pills 3 times aday......i think if i spread it out it would help in absorption, but if i take em two at a time would the hormonal surege be much more significant?

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    six times a day wtf help in absorption no... It would keep levels at a meduim rate.

    I would just take the 2 pills a time especially bfore workout, and then bfore bedtime and when wakeup

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    4 weeks is not long enough for a cycle on your forth week is when you will start getting the best results

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    i know but i dont have enough money for any more bottles, that stuff is expensive man!.i will defiently try to come with another bottle or two some time in the next month. Can someone just answer my question?

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    how many mgs are you taking of 4ad?

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    also 600 mg of 4ad
    some other info:
    I weigh 175
    am 6 foot
    not sure but probably 13-14% body fat
    i also take creatine 5 grams a day
    i do eat alot and eat right.
    Thanks for any help

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    I dont think you really need to start off with 600 mgs of 1ad I started off with 300mgs and worked up from therewhat kind of 4ad are you using

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrstlr69sdnl
    I dont think you really need to start off with 600 mgs of 1ad I started off with 300mgs and worked up from therewhat kind of 4ad are you using
    really?........i am using ergopharm. I am thinking of taking 300 for a week or two then bumping up to 600 for the last four weeks.it would prolong my cycle

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    I started with 300 mgs ed after about 3 weeks bumped it to 400mgs checm my andro cycle in my sig. for all the dosing what are you going to use for a post cycle

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    ad-1 or Nor-diol/4-diol ?
    I have a question about this stack I want to take, vs. stack #5 When you say twice aday
    is that 750 mg twice, or 750 mg split in to equal servings for breakfast and
    workout? Same question with the Nor-diol. Also what specific prouduct for
    each do you suggest meaning best quaility and serving size. what ZMA
    product do you suggest as well? Should I add anything to this like a
    anti-estergin or Tribulus terrestris?
    I am 22 5 9" and 195 with 12- 13% and have been working out for 4 years of
    college and some in high school. I have never juiced but have
    used creatine and gluamine and tried "poppers" from pinnacle.
    If you suggest another stack just tell me.



    Stack #2 - Cycle for good gains.

    Week 1-2 take 750 mg of 4-diol and 250 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 3-5 take 500 mg of 4-diol and 500 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 6-7 take 250 mg of 4-diol and 750 mg of Nor-diol

    Split stack up in two doses, take one after breakfast, the other 45-30 mins
    before a workout in weeks 1-2, 60 mins before in weeks 3-5 and 90 mins
    before workout weeks 6-7.

    My product choice is based on anabolic properties. I selected the two best
    compounds. They are both using the same conversion enzyme and could compete
    at an increase of dosage. So I used a teeter-stack where one product
    decreases in favor of the other, thereby keeping the overall amount the same
    from week to week. But I also manage to bring endogenous testosterone down,
    allowing the body to feel the decrease without dropping hormone levels. When
    coming off a stack this will illicit a greater response in getting natural
    test back on track without compromising the amount of gains made. I had a
    practical problem in that the 4-diol peaks after 30-45 minutes and the
    Nor-diol after 90 minutes, so the pre-workout administration had to move
    along with it, shifting it back as the Nor-diol compounds became more
    prevalent in the stack. Keep in mind that both compounds are fairly
    suppressive of HPTA, so that using ZMA coming off a cycle is advised here.


    Stack #5 (1AD and Nor-diol, 4-AD)

    This is a hypothetical stack based on what I know of 1AD. Like I said, I'm trying it at the end of summer and will report back with detailed results, the good and the bad and the terrifyingly ugly (let's hope there is none of that) on just how useful 1AD really is. Here are two variations of a stack:

    Week 1-6 600 mg of 1AD and 600 mg of 4AD

    Take in 3 evenly spread doses of 200 mg of each product throughout the day.

    This is a dose that allows you to see decent benefits off of 1AD without putting you straight in the poor house. In this instance it's a 6-week iso-stack, using 4AD as the counterpart. Because of the moderate dose and the daily spread you can get a lot out of the 4AD too. This is a very androgenic stack and should under no circumstances be taken by women. The 4AD makes a good partner for 1AD because it enhances the androgenic effect and it repairs a loss of libido that may come with the use of 1AD. Not to mention that these are possibly two of the most anabolic legal substances available today.

    Week 1-2 900 mg of 1AD with 300 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 3-4 600 mg of 1AD with 600 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 5-6 600 mg of 1AD with 300 mg of Nor-diol

    Take half the Nor-diol after breakfast and half after dinner, take 1AD spread over 3 even daily doses.

    This is a tad more expensive. Ok, a lot more expensive. But this epitomizes a great stack. It's commonly believed that drugs with the effect of 1AD should be stacked with a non-androgen. And the most potent non-androgen is Nor-diol. It's a bit of a combination between a ski-slope and a teeter stack that should give great results for the small amount of time you are on it.

    Normally I would recommend the use of 19Nor so there is no over saturation of the 3-beta enzyme that could compromise the conversion of the 1AD. But with the cost of 1AD I sincerely doubt that anyone can afford to take enough (or would want to) to saturate the enzymes.

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