04-13-2005, 03:50 PM #1
when do you suggest to do them, 1st in back routine or last???
04-13-2005, 04:43 PM #2Anabolic Member
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If you are talking about regular deads then many do in the beginning after a warmup like hyper extentions.
04-13-2005, 04:44 PM #3
I prefer Rack Pulls.
Bar Bent Rows
Seated Low Pulley Rows
04-13-2005, 05:17 PM #4
ok another question.... should i use the powerlifter-grip (over and under) or both hands over??? the reason i ask is because i do not want uneven back and trap developement!
04-13-2005, 05:26 PM #5
first on lowerback and hamstrings day.
04-13-2005, 06:37 PM #6Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD
04-13-2005, 06:39 PM #7
I do them last, because after I'm done I usually want to puke, and feel sick for at least 20 minutes; same with squats. I could probably lift more if I did them first, but then the rest of my workout would go to hell because I'd be holding back.
04-13-2005, 07:38 PM #8
I do them first after some Hyperextension sets to warmup. And I usually use overhand grip until I hit the point where I need the powerlifter grip to go up in weight.
04-13-2005, 07:46 PM #9
either first in my back workout...
Or 1st in my hamstring workout.... powerlifter's grip
04-13-2005, 08:35 PM #10
I think it depends on how much you are developed in the areas that deads work the most. I worked out for a few months before I started doing deads and when I first started doing them, I was done. Way too sore to get good sets of rows and pull-ups in, so I started doing them last in my workout. After I started developing from them I started doing them first and get much better sets done because I'm not already sore. The rest of the workout is still harder after deads, but I can still manage quality sets.
04-13-2005, 08:39 PM #11
And if you're worried about your grip, just switch your grip every set. Once you start going heavier it will become much harder to use both hands overhand, so I would suggest learning the over/under grip and switching every set or getting some straps.
04-13-2005, 09:01 PM #12
well i do use straps but i still find that i can use heavier wieght using the over/under grip vs. the over/over grip, but i dont want to develope uneven! thats my only worry about the powerlifter grip! could this even happen tho?
04-13-2005, 09:47 PM #13
also with 4-6reps should a belt be a must??? i dont go to absolute failure when doing deads becasue i dont want to hurt my back so is it really necessary???
04-13-2005, 11:02 PM #14
If you switch your grip every set there shouldn't be a problem at all. Unless your trying to lift a very heavy weight, I wouldn't use the belt. Not using a belt will develop muscles that stabilize you and belts tend to keep your core from being worked as much during the excercise.
04-14-2005, 03:57 AM #15
I use straps (broke the little finger on both hands so my grip is not up to holding that much weight with three fingers.)
I also use a belt on the last two sets. I lifted for a couple years without a belt and found that it was really thickening my waist and I was getting kind of boxy.
I do them first on lower back/hams day.
I know what symatech is talking about, so I take a five minute break to get my pulse down after deads before my next exercise. I typically look like I have taken a shower after them.
I be one sweaty mofo!
04-14-2005, 07:51 AM #16Originally Posted by znak
thats what i do not want! i want to keep my waiste as small as possible!
04-14-2005, 11:02 AM #17
i was usins straps for awhile and i do not recommend it. my grip stregth really went to **** over the course of like 1.5-2 months using straps. i just use an overhand grip until i hit 225 (my second warmup set) and then use an alternating grip and change it every time.
04-14-2005, 08:27 PM #18Junior Member
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First on back day. I use power lifter grip no staps or belt. I do reps until i go over 315. Then i do singles. Meaning I stand up after evey lift for 2secs bend down regrip and lift.
04-14-2005, 09:04 PM #19Originally Posted by symatech
But I like to do squats first, they dont get me wore out like deads do!
you gotta find out what works for you best and go from there!
04-15-2005, 12:01 AM #20Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD
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