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**DInav7** · 05-13-2009, 10:05 AM

Alright I need some help guys I'm getting ready to be heading to basic and wanted to bring my own gear in then. How hard will it be to bring my on stuff in there is plenty of ways to hide it with all the stuff they make to hide gear in now like shaving cream bottles etc. Im just not sure how hard they are on searching your stuff in basic....Also once on base or on a ship what will it be hard to bring my on gear in then or what should I do i need some help guys.......and is there any chance I could get tested for gear at MEPS?

**DInav7** · 05-13-2009, 10:15 AM

alright guys i need some help on how to bring my own gear into basic like there is so many things made you can put stuff inside like shaving cream bottles etc....i dont want to have to resort in storing it inside my body if ya know what i mean.....and what about when im on base or ship how hard is it to bring my own into base and is there any chance to get tested for gear at MEPS?

**Iron_Pig** · 05-13-2009, 10:19 AM

Do not do it they will search your stuff wait a couple weeks then have some body mail it to you.

Originally Posted by DInav7

Alright I need some help guys I'm getting ready to be heading to basic and wanted to bring my own gear in then. How hard will it be to bring my on stuff in there is plenty of ways to hide it with all the stuff they make to hide gear in now like shaving cream bottles etc. Im just not sure how hard they are on searching your stuff in basic....Also once on base or on a ship what will it be hard to bring my on gear in then or what should I do i need some help guys.......and is there any chance I could get tested for gear at MEPS?

**alpmaster** · 05-13-2009, 10:23 AM

Are you talking about Army? I don't know how it is in other branches, but in basic once you get there, they will empty all of your shit and give you new things. Also, whenever we got packages, the drill sergeant would make us open it in front of everyone, so mailing it isn't an option either.

It's also a very serious offense if you get caught with contraband in basic, and there is a 99% chance you will be caught with it. You won't be doing gear in basic, get over it.

**quarry206** · 05-13-2009, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by DInav7

alright guys i need some help on how to bring my own gear into basic like there is so many things made you can put stuff inside like shaving cream bottles etc....i dont want to have to resort in storing it inside my body if ya know what i mean.....and what about when im on base or ship how hard is it to bring my own into base and is there any chance to get tested for gear at MEPS?

don't take this the wrong way... but whoever made you think that any part of this is a good idea should be shot...

taking gear in basic is a terrible idea, even if getting it there was not an issue.. basic is not set up in such a way that steroids would help nor would it be worth while..

**subaruwrx04** · 05-13-2009, 11:02 PM

Served 4 years in the Corps.. They dont test for gear.... Just keep your mouth shut and don't get to huge quick.

**alpmaster** · 05-14-2009, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by subaruwrx04

Served 4 years in the Corps.. They dont test for gear.... Just keep your mouth shut and don't get to huge quick.

He's talking about basic. There is a very very very small chance he'd actually be able to get it in to the barracks, and then he'd have an even harder time getting away with shooting it, and the fact that it would be a very serious offense in basic, and THEN there's the fact that it will not help in anyway during basic. Overall, it's just about one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard.

**subaruwrx04** · 05-14-2009, 02:34 PM

Your crazy as hell if you take it to basic or even use gear while living in the barracks. So look at this way you want to choose muscle or ruin your life. Thats pretty much how things are going to end if you do it. So your choice.

**Pac Man** · 05-16-2009, 11:49 AM

Yea bro, don't take it in basic or have anyone ship it to you. You will get busted. There is nowhere you can hide it that they wont look. Seriously, we had a dude get caught hiding Tabasco sauce under his balls.
Besides you'll be in a negative caloric intake ratio the whole time, it would be useless. Wait till you get out of basic.

**bakie** · 05-20-2009, 09:01 AM

I have to disagree, lsd and the silly stuff only show up in your spinal/brain fluid. Unless you come into the test trippin balls they wouldn't be able to catch it in a piss test. Spinal tap is needed to determine the use of those drugs.

**bakie** · 05-20-2009, 09:05 AM

And please don't try juicing in BASIC! That is a terrible idea. I agree my drill instructors ****** open every letter, package, etc. and threw it across the floor. The worst thing would be to have him rip that open and watch your needles and vials go for a trip.

**crazy_rocks** · 06-24-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by blake.varhaug

whoever told spencer that the military gives sf group guys roids is a moron. Overseas everyone does juice, i see majority prohormones though not actual gear.

you are correct.
its interesting you said that. when i was in the army people use to say sf is given "vitamin e shot" which is actually a code word for steroid . a year ago i researched and found out how that rumor sf steroid rumor started.

**crazy_rocks** · 06-24-2009, 09:17 PM

Alright bud, most of these guys are right.

There is the drug test that happens about every month. That drug test does not by default test for steroids . In order to be tested for steroids your commander or 1sg have to be convinced you should be tested for steroids, thats the only way the lab will test for it. If for some crazy reason the lab did find out you take steroids it doesnt mean shit unless your commander or 1sg authorized it in the memorandum. If that were the situation the case would be thrown out. But dont worry the lab will not test you for roids by accident.

before the piss test they tell you they are testing you for so and so drugs. I imagine they would tell you if they were testing you for steroids to. I cannot remember which is bad because I was the collection guy.

Word is oil based testosterone will not come up even if the lab does run a steroid test.

If they bring it up just say "Im in the gym and eating 6,000 calories a day, what do you expect.

**Pac Man** · 06-25-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

Word is oil based testosterone will not come up even if the lab does run a steroid test.

If they bring it up just say "Im in the gym and eating 6,000 calories a day, what do you expect.

I don't see why it wouldn't, it's a detectable substance.
You would be more likely to get away with suspension but from what I hear, suspension hurts like a mofo

**IggySupra** · 07-19-2009, 02:12 AM

This is my first post, and I prety much read the whole thread. BUT, Im still a bit shady about getting on some gear before my piss, blood test for the AF. Basically I would be cool from all you guys' knowledge correct? No specific AAS testing without higher chain of command asking for it.

**gigabitbucket** · 08-03-2009, 05:49 AM

It is too expensive for them to test , UNLESS you are a F'up and they want to get rid of you. Or your CO is a pain!

**Dizz28** · 08-16-2009, 03:24 PM

Talk about beating a dead horse... I love how people just reiterate what others say

**RyanW** · 10-21-2009, 05:21 AM

Good read guys!
Cheers for putting my mind at rest... Starting Test E (500mg) and DBol (50/60mg) in the not too distant future.

**charlesriley** · 10-26-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by spencer c

I attend a military college in vermont to pursue a commision in the marine corps and first off testing is all based on your chain of command. Our old col didnt test once, new one tested once all year. My roommate was also a sgt in the army and was actually in charge of administering drug tests. He said he only had to test when some people get in trouble and randomly. He also told me how overseas everyone was on juice, the military doesnt give two shits if your getting huge, in fact they love it. A lot of other militaries in the world, especially lots of sf units give there men some type of "combat cocktail" including amphetamines and juice thrown in the mix. THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE GIVES THEIR PILOTS AMPHETAMINES TO STAY AWAKE AND MORE ALERT!! bottom line any type of performance enhancement in the benefit of uncle sam is good to go

i am a 18x delayed entry guy,i ship in march, if i do a cycle to get ahead (winstrol ,test e and var) will i be tested for roids at meps when i ship off and swear in??

how about pct stuff??

**MANIMAL55** · 10-26-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by charlesriley

i am a 18x delayed entry guy,i ship in march, if i do a cycle to get ahead (winstrol ,test e and var) will i be tested for roids at meps when i ship off and swear in??

how about pct stuff??

Special forces, that is awesome man, i wish you the best, as for the other question, i just got out of the Army after a lil over six years and was never once tested for steroids , the test is very costly, and most people in the military do not really care anyway. i mean in special forces they want you to be big and strong and be able to go the distance. you will be fine, just dont talk about it in basic being that that is the only time people will really get on you for stuff.

on another note, i would recommend to stay with var, being that in training you wont have access to weights and enough protein, and it will be a little easier to keep the gains from it during that process.

any other military questions hit me up, i always like helping the new soliders

**MANIMAL55** · 10-27-2009, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by tizom55

Special forces, that is awesome man, i wish you the best, as for the other question, i just got out of the Army after a lil over six years and was never once tested for steroids , the test is very costly, and most people in the military do not really care anyway. i mean in special forces they want you to be big and strong and be able to go the distance. you will be fine, just dont talk about it in basic being that that is the only time people will really get on you for stuff.

on another note, i would recommend to stay with var, being that in training you wont have access to weights and enough protein, and it will be a little easier to keep the gains from it during that process.

any other military questions hit me up, i always like helping the new soliders

to go with my last post, use it before basic, not during. wanted to make sure that was clear

**charlesriley** · 10-28-2009, 10:32 AM

hey thanks for the info, yeah var is a good substance im having a very hard time lookin for it in dallas or san antonio, my guy moved, i got winn but the joint kill is somthing i am avoiding.

never tested in your time in , that actually makes me feel better, im still gonna be cautious but still a relief.

**DealerofArms** · 11-10-2009, 08:45 AM

Had a buddy get tested 4 times while we were in korea.... negative everytime... we were using some korean deca . His arm was practically rotting off cuz we didn't know what the **** we were doing... he eventually ripped a sink out of the wall and they found shit in his bag. busted ...

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