Things you have to believe to be a Republican today

[bitta]

thats great jeremy the fact of the matter is, more people voted for gore than bush, screw the electorial college and all of that more people voted for someone who is not in office, granted gore wasnt a much better choice but as far as foreign policy we would still be in a better situation if dubya hadnt stolen the office, funny it happened in jeb bushs state huh( just a coincedence Im sure). And thats great that after my post the right winger fundamentalists on this thread still called me a democrat, Im not a democrat Im independent. Any way, when Tom ridge raised the risk level a month ago he stated that terrorists will likely try to plan an attack because of the up-coming election, stating that the madrid bombings where done to sway the election and oust the current president come election day. Now doesnt that tell you enough that they obviosly hate the bush family...............why am I actually discussing this with close minded individuals? Im not going to even finish this one, If bush is re-elected Im moving.

[tryingtogetbig]

...If bush is re-elected Im moving.

...sounds like the country will have one less democrat come November.....

[Carlos_E]

...sounds like the country will have one less democrat come November.....

I guess you can't read.

He just said he's not a democrat. He's independant. Or do you automatically call anyone who is not republican a tree hugging liberal democrat.

[Pale Horse]

Carlos,

Independant is the new Democratic party. That's what they call themselves for two reasons. 1) They are ashamed to admit that they really are Democrats
2) They can't even commit to a party, they have to have waffling on that issue too. Liberals are deathly afraid of committment of any kind. If they commit then they can't change their minds on the issues when it suits them!

[bad_man]

Carlos,

Independant is the new Democratic party. That's what they call themselves for two reasons. 1) They are ashamed to admit that they really are Democrats
2) They can't even commit to a party, they have to have waffling on that issue too. Liberals are deathly afraid of committment of any kind. If they commit then they can't change their minds on the issues when it suits them!

Why is it a bad thing to not be commited to a party? It means you're a free thinker. Why would I want to be trapped into opinions on a myriad of issues?

Like Chris Rock says THINK FOR YOURSELVES!!! For example, I'm conservative when it comes to crime, but on prostitution, I'm liberal!!

[Pale Horse]

Free thinking is fine but we each have choices to make in life that matter. The problem today is that there is no commitment or loyalty, everyone just does what they want when they want.

For every action there is a reaction. If you were to start on a journey and travel in a zig zag would you get there faster than someone who has walked in a straight line?

In my opinion that is why liberals don't ever get anywhere, they commit to an agenda and then something happens they change the agenda over and over. Making a commitment on any issue takes faith and confidence.
(why do I feel like I want to call you Grasshopper now?) So ends my opinion on libs.

If we were all the same it would be a boring place to live anyway. Remember the old saying "if you don't stand for anything, you will fall for everything"

[bad_man]

I don't classify myself as a liberal - OR a conservative for that matter. If you feel I must commit to a party, please let me know which one I should choose.

I'm pro-death penalty
I'm pro-choice
I'm anti-union
I believe prostitution should be legalized
I believe our drug laws should be relaxed.
I believe you should have to work to get welfare money
I believe there should be a universal healthcare system
I believe John Kerry is an idiot
I believe George W Bush is a bigger idot.

So, to which party should I commit?

[Dude-Man]

So, to which party should I commit?

Bad question.. of course the sheep are going to tell you to vote republican.

[Pale Horse]

You are closer to a Republican than you think.

Pro death penalty +
Pro choice -
Anti-union +
Prostitution +/- even
Relaxed drug laws + (legalize it and tax it)
work for welfare +
Universal healthcare (fantasy for both sides)
Kerry is an Idiot +
George W. - (depth of character is underrated)

This give you 5 afirmative Republican and 2 affirmative Democrat votes with one tie and another being insane (universal health care)

[Pale Horse]

Adams,

You Boston guys are notoriuosly liberal, still stuck in the fantasy.

[Carlos_E]

I love how on this board, being called a liberal is an insult.

My opinion ... f uck what everyone else thinks.

[Jeremy34]

thats great jeremy the fact of the matter is, more people voted for gore than bush, screw the electorial college and all of that more people voted for someone who is not in office, granted gore wasnt a much better choice but as far as foreign policy we would still be in a better situation if dubya hadnt stolen the office, funny it happened in jeb bushs state huh( just a coincedence Im sure). And thats great that after my post the right winger fundamentalists on this thread still called me a democrat, Im not a democrat Im independent. Any way, when Tom ridge raised the risk level a month ago he stated that terrorists will likely try to plan an attack because of the up-coming election, stating that the madrid bombings where done to sway the election and oust the current president come election day. Now doesnt that tell you enough that they obviosly hate the bush family...............why am I actually discussing this with close minded individuals? Im not going to even finish this one, If bush is re-elected Im moving.

Maybe Tom was referring to the Madrid bombings being done to sway the election and oust the current president because alll of the terrorists and enemies of the U.S. would rather deal with Kerry.......

I'm sure if it would have been the other way around, with Bush getting the "popular" vote, but with Gore winning the electoral vote, all the Dems would have felt bad and given the Presidency to Bush. Nope, my bet is if that same situation were to come up in another election, with the Grand Ole Party winning the popular vote and losing the electoral vote, the Dems will change their stance on that issue, to fit them...nothing unusual.

Since I'm on a political rant, I'll add this: It amazes me to no end for all the Democratic politicians to scream that they are looking out for the "little guy" and the middle class while hating big business and the rich, while THEY are part of the rich. When you think about it, you don't have to scratch your head very long to realize that they DON'T care about the little guy, or anyone else for that matter. If they care so much about the working middle class, then why do they raise taxes every **** time they get a chance? Of course more taxes means more government intervention (socialism) because there are a ton of lazy people who dropped out of high school who say they need "assistance". Why not ask John Kerry to just keep enough money to live on....say....$40,000 a year, like families that are struggling, and give the rest to the people that need it? I Don't think he would like that too much....and if I happened to find the American dream and make $1,000,000, I wouldn't want to be taxed out to gazoo either.

I do understand that there are people that go through rough times like losing their job and needing help to stay afloat....I have no problem with that. But constantly raising taxes on the people that actually "work for their money" in order to redistribute the wealth is not right.

[tryingtogetbig]

I guess you can't read.

He just said he's not a democrat. He's independant. Or do you automatically call anyone who is not republican a tree hugging liberal democrat.

Everytime I post....you post something negative.....

GET OFF MY ASS DIKHEAD!!!

As far as me calling him a Democrat...yes I knew what he was saying...and yes I meant to call him a Democrat.....that was the point fukhead....IMO.... ....I was giving him a hard time....

...did I say fukoff yet.... .....nope.....FUKOFF!!

peace,

ttgb

[tryingtogetbig]

...and as far as choosing which party you affiliate yourself with....look at the big picture and decide which groups and individuals carry similar morals and ideals as yourself.....

Here was my earlier thought on the subject....

Somone said "we are all more similar than different" earlier and I totally agree. We can't let the small number of differences outweigh the large number of similarities.

I choose the Republican ticket mainly because it fits my way of logic moreso than the democrats. Unfortanutely, the people the democrats get to support them are what totally turns me off from the democratic ticket. I really don't think the democrats truly do anything for these people either. Here are a few:

NAACP
ACLU
Jesse Jackson Rainbow Coalition
Dem's always try to get prisoners to vote
85% of Hispanic populaiton
greater than 50% of the dem voting population has household income less than $75k
Hillary Clinton
Ted Kennedy
75% of all Lawyers nationwide vote democrat
PETA
majority of college professors are democrat
90% of the African-American population votes democrat
...and...look at which states the dems win for presidential elections:
New York, New Jersey, California, etc.......


None of these people or groups of people are anything that I would ever consider be associated with.

I will be the first to say that the Republicans have some fuked up views as well.....but....like I said before....they fit closer to my life style than the dems.....


peace,

ttgb

[tryingtogetbig]

...oh yeah...and majority of all homosexuals are democrats also....


almost forgot again....

[bad_man]

OK, this thread has worn me out. I'm unsubscribing. Later dudes,

[chicamahomico]

Congrats bad_man, you are Libertarian....well almost, they are not for universal healthcare. I challenge some of you guys to check this platform comparison out when you have 20 mins to kill. You will be pleasantly suprised, I think.

http://www.lp.org/issues/platform/compare/

I don't classify myself as a liberal - OR a conservative for that matter. If you feel I must commit to a party, please let me know which one I should choose.

I'm pro-death penalty
I'm pro-choice
I'm anti-union
I believe prostitution should be legalized
I believe our drug laws should be relaxed.
I believe you should have to work to get welfare money
I believe there should be a universal healthcare system
I believe John Kerry is an idiot
I believe George W Bush is a bigger idot.

So, to which party should I commit?

[Jeremy34]

Congrats bad_man, you are Libertarian....well almost, they are not for universal healthcare. I challenge some of you guys to check this platform comparison out when you have 20 mins to kill. You will be pleasantly suprised, I think.

http://www.lp.org/issues/platform/compare/

Thanks for the site, that confirms it, I'm Republican.

[bigmack62]

Excellent post. You really hit on the head. I am a liberal and am **** proud of it!

[tryingtogetbig]

Excellent post. You really hit on the head. I am a liberal and am **** proud of it!

.....you and the majority of the homosexuals in the country believe in the same politics.......

[SV-1]

.....you and the majority of the homosexuals in the country believe in the same politics.......

And? You say that like it's a bad thing. Most of the KKK agree with conservatives politics. I don't know of many liberal KKK members. So I guess that means your title should say "Whitey Member".

[Pale Horse]

All of the KKK are morons and don't believe in anything, you can't understant what retards are thinking thus no one knows what the KKK believes in.

[SV-1]

All of the KKK are morons and don't believe in anything, you can't understant what retards are thinking thus no one knows what the KKK believes in.

Actually all of the KKK are christians.

And to say that they don't believe in anything is ridiculous. They have some very strong beliefs, kinda like christian conservatives.

[Pale Horse]

If you think that you are more ignorant than the KKK. Real Christianity has nothing to do with their belief system. SV1 I thought you were smarter than that, disappointing.

[chicamahomico]

TTGB, bro I respect your opinion but the Liberal = homosexual thing has gotta go.

.....you and the majority of the homosexuals in the country believe in the same politics.......

[SV-1]

If you think that you are more ignorant than the KKK. Real Christianity has nothing to do with their belief system. SV1 I thought you were smarter than that, disappointing.

The fact is that not all christians agree on what "real" christianity is. Ask any sect (insert yours here) and they'll tell you that they are the ones who have it right. The KKK will tell you that they are good and proper christians. The baptists will tell you the same. As will the catholics (who baptists don't even consider to *be* christians). Hell even different organizations in the same sects disagree.

I was a born again pentecostal, and every pentecostal christian I ever met believed they had it right and everyone else was wrong.

[tryingtogetbig]

TTGB, bro I respect your opinion but the Liberal = homosexual thing has gotta go.

....man....I don't get to have ANY fun anymore do I....

[Carlos_E]

....man....I don't get to have ANY fun anymore do I....

Majority of all homosexuals like to have fun also.

[tryingtogetbig]

Majority of all homosexuals like to have fun also.

....I better not get any mental images from reading your post.....

[bitta]

.....you and the majority of the homosexuals in the country believe in the same politics.......

do you want to talk about something bro? It's allright, there are plenty of groups out there that can help you feel more comfortable with your prefrences.ha ha

[Pale Horse]

SV1,

Was is the key word for you, and it shows.

[inheritmylife]

Pink elephants!!!

[SV-1]

SV1,

Was is the key word for you, and it shows.

I'll take that as a complement. Thanx.

[Pale Horse]

Sv,

If being ignorant is a compliment then you are welcome. First of all, we are discussing a faith not the individuals that claim to espouse it. There are bad churches, bad "religious people, people that quite frankly turn my stomach but they don't represent the faith, look at the faith alone. I will agree that many "Christians" give the others a bad name, they talk the talk but don't walk the walk, preach to and condemn others, sin as much or more than non Christians so I understand your point of view. It is too bad you had a bad experience that has turned you away.

[SV-1]

Sv,

If being ignorant is a compliment then you are welcome. First of all, we are discussing a faith not the individuals that claim to espouse it. There are bad churches, bad "religious people, people that quite frankly turn my stomach but they don't represent the faith, look at the faith alone. I will agree that many "Christians" give the others a bad name, they talk the talk but don't walk the walk, preach to and condemn others, sin as much or more than non Christians so I understand your point of view. It is too bad you had a bad experience that has turned you away.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Nothing wrong with that.

[Pale Horse]

Agreed, we disagree. Let's move on.