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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    This author is a disgrace. He projects human life lost in WWII as if it were a waste. I say that WWII was a far more noble cause than Iraq anyday. And seriously, does anybody disagree? If so we can debate it till the cows come home in another thread.
    Yea but his analogy about vietnam and Korea are good ones. We almost have a better moral standing in this war then we did with those two asian countries. We also have better moral justification in Iraq then we did in the following wars: throwing Spain out of Cuba, Haiti, Nicauragua, Somalia, Bosnia, Panama, Granada, etc? And this war is tremendously less costly in lives and capital adjusted for inflation when considering the Iraq war to other wars.

    And this stuff of France and Russia saying no its not right to make war here, well isnt that like a crack addict who just found religion yesterday telling the the preacher he cant have a glass of wine with dinner.

    France and Russia have had plenty of history medaling in the affairs of others. France actually CAUSE vietnam and handed it to us on a silver platter and Russia in one way or another caused Afganistan to be the terrorist haven it had become.

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    A lot of incorrect statements made by BIggenie here..but they have already been dissected by more informed individuals ..so no need to rehash...
    the important thing to remember about this debate..I believe is "the war"...my question to all of you is....

    WHY ARE WE THERE?

    OSSAMA BIN LADEN was responsible for the bombings...and hes off running in the mountains somewhere...

    ARE YOU navie enough to beleive that this war in irag is protectin america?..explain to me how it is?...tell me how attacking a country whree none of the hijackers werefrom is protecting us?

    If this was such a good idea?..why didnt Bush 's Daddy do it?

    Ill answer that one for you...no clear exit plan...When I fought in that one..they told us that the feeling was it was better to deal with the known than the unknown

    Do you think we really care about human rights in IRaq?...

    We set Iraq up to fight against Iran back in the late 70's when the shah if Iran was "dethrone"

    gentleman...this war is hurting this country in everyway..Bush has proven to be a highly incompetent president, quite obviously a puppet of his fathers old regime...and outside influences...Kerry may not be that dynamic...but at least he knws what its like to put on the unifrom and serve...

    yes they both went to yale...but do you think Bush would of gotten there if he was without his family?..exactly....

    and the last thing...I never saw a more undignified action than what Bush did landing on the aircraft carrier with his little flight unifrom on...
    its like someone buying a football team and playing quaterback....

    i know where i stand ...call it what you like...but this guys gotta go...

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    before anyone votes take a look at the two videos at www.jibjab.com.....then make your decision lol...ill vote for who ever legalizes the use of AAS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamike
    A lot of incorrect statements made by BIggenie here..but they have already been dissected by more informed individuals ..so no need to rehash...
    the important thing to remember about this debate..I believe is "the war"...my question to all of you is....

    WHY ARE WE THERE?

    OSSAMA BIN LADEN was responsible for the bombings...and hes off running in the mountains somewhere...

    ARE YOU navie enough to beleive that this war in irag is protectin america?..explain to me how it is?...tell me how attacking a country whree none of the hijackers werefrom is protecting us?

    If this was such a good idea?..why didnt Bush 's Daddy do it?

    Ill answer that one for you...no clear exit plan...When I fought in that one..they told us that the feeling was it was better to deal with the known than the unknown

    Do you think we really care about human rights in IRaq?...

    We set Iraq up to fight against Iran back in the late 70's when the shah if Iran was "dethrone"

    gentleman...this war is hurting this country in everyway..Bush has proven to be a highly incompetent president, quite obviously a puppet of his fathers old regime...and outside influences...Kerry may not be that dynamic...but at least he knws what its like to put on the unifrom and serve...

    yes they both went to yale...but do you think Bush would of gotten there if he was without his family?..exactly....

    and the last thing...I never saw a more undignified action than what Bush did landing on the aircraft carrier with his little flight unifrom on...
    its like someone buying a football team and playing quaterback....

    i know where i stand ...call it what you like...but this guys gotta go...
    you're a moron.

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    Sorry but this has got to be the biggest shlt pile of posts in one thread I have ever read.

    I dont think there is one solid fact in this entire fvcking thread and everyone is dog piling on a big piece of shlt thinking it is a golden crown or something.

    I like the part where someone said Bush was a draft dodger. What the fvck was Clinton.

    Due to the interent: There no longer is such thing as fact anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    Sorry but this has got to be the biggest shlt pile of posts in one thread I have ever read.

    I dont think there is one solid fact in this entire fvcking thread and everyone is dog piling on a big piece of shlt thinking it is a golden crown or something.

    I like the part where someone said Bush was a draft dodger. What the fvck was Clinton.

    Due to the interent: There no longer is such thing as fact anymore.
    when did clintons record of vietnam become a issue? when did he say he was a war president? when did he ever get us in a war with no way out? completely differant type of situation then with bush and kerry. if you cant see that i dont know what to tell ya

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    How many times is this going to be posted? i mean come on we all know that liberals in general are more sophisticated then dems.. if not look it up on your "internets"..

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    i'm not even going to read all the post, or finish the thread starter. Big genes is an inbred idiot. Thats all I have to say thank you.

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    Amen, It's funny the more libs hear things the more they belive it's true, but we are brainwashed and the liars....

    Don't belive the liberal media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markas214
    Perfect example of how some people will believe whatever propaganda is shoved up their as,ses and then spread it as gospel to other narrow minded and ignorant fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaC
    Amen, It's funny the more libs hear things the more they belive it's true, but we are brainwashed and the liars....

    Don't belive the liberal media.
    -BaC

    yeah we should all just go back to socialism.. i always thought the USSR had a good thing going..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    you're a moron.
    WEll thank you Jeremy...I know that a moron, in your amazingly deep intellectual gene pool of Louisianna is considered a genius. Sadly , I understand how you couldn't respond with any thing more elaborate to my statements. I would of like to of heard your disertation on the geopolitical scenario as it is today...BUt your a moron will work for me...peace out my slow brother...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamike
    WEll thank you Jeremy...I know that a moron, in your amazingly deep intellectual gene pool of Louisianna is considered a genius. Sadly , I understand how you couldn't respond with any thing more elaborate to my statements. I would of like to of heard your disertation on the geopolitical scenario as it is today...BUt your a moron will work for me...peace out my slow brother...
    A post with as many fallacies as your's is not worth the time of any intellectual person. Yes I am from louisiana and since you have probably have never even traveled outside your home state, you must be as ignorant as everyone else who thinks we sleep with allagators in our back yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    A post with as many fallacies as your's is not worth the time of any intellectual person. Yes I am from louisiana and since you have probably have never even traveled outside your home state, you must be as ignorant as everyone else who thinks we sleep with allagators in our back yards.

    well not aligators, but u still do sleep with relatives, right? deca back me up here bro

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    flush the johns, no flip flops in the white house.. BUSH BITCH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot
    well not aligators, but u still do sleep with relatives, right? deca back me up here bro
    Oh yea sure it happens all the time. Tell me, does it require wearing helmet for that responce? You seem to have a vast knowledge of inbreds. Tell us.....is there something you're hiding that we should all know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    Oh yea sure it happens all the time. Tell me, does it require wearing helmet for that responce? You seem to have a vast knowledge of inbreds. Tell us.....is there something you're hiding that we should all know about?

    well.. im from ny.. and my house doesnt have wheels.. i dont have any cusins near me.. so i dont think so..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot
    well.. im from ny.. and my house doesnt have wheels.. i dont have any cusins near me.. so i dont think so..?
    So your from New York, I'll let you talk to my friend John Rocker about that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    So your from New York, I'll let you talk to my friend John Rocker about that one.

    oh yeah that redneck still alive? why is it that the core of this nation is so **** stubburon on fallowing an idiot? mccain would have been a much much better candidate.. but leave it to a redneck to **** up a nation..

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    Everything he said was true bro, thats why all you New Yorkers got so pissed. Can't handle the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    Everything he said was true bro, thats why all you New Yorkers got so pissed. Can't handle the truth.

    yeah.. your right.. now put ur helmet back on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot
    yeah.. your right.. now put ur helmet back on..
    The helmet rule is reserved for you, get some new material. That one is mine. Now remember not to take it off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    The helmet rule is reserved for you, get some new material. That one is mine. Now remember not to take it off!

    yawn..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot
    yawn..
    Oh thats original. Whats wrong you couldn't think of anything to say? Its ok we understand, but thats what the helmets for! If only you would have gotton the helmet sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    Oh thats original. Whats wrong you couldn't think of anything to say? Its ok we understand, but thats what the helmets for! If only you would have gotton the helmet sooner.

    yes.. now i see why ur voting for bush..

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    yea people form new york, cali and mass arent inbred.....now ohio, texas, alabama, louissiana........thats a diff story

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    yea people form new york, cali and mass arent inbred.....now ohio, texas, alabama, louissiana........thats a diff story

    You know better than to mess with us Georgia Boys.....

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    THIS IS GETTING STUPID!!!!vote bush or vote kerry no reason to argue bout it if u look the facts up ull no whos the better of them BUSH!!!all yall demos have the stupidist excuses for not relecting bush and its dumb so come on someone talk **** bout how i dont no what im talking bout i no its coming!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
    sorry two can play that stupid ass game



    think of a good reply now

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstomper
    sorry two can play that stupid ass game



    think of a good reply now


    copy cat

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    this gets better by the min.....this chat has turned into one big dibate lol... its cool though im enjoying this... oh ya go bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
    copy cat
    only problem is mine is better and right

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    im better than you all, an elitist is far bettter

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstomper
    when did clintons record of vietnam become a issue? when did he say he was a war president? when did he ever get us in a war with no way out? completely differant type of situation then with bush and kerry. if you cant see that i dont know what to tell ya

    Bush is being called a draft dodger.
    Didnt Clinton dodge the draft too??

    What POINT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND..... Quit trying to read into shlt that isnt even available. You assume too much just to keep an argument going...

    How much more clear do I have to be in my posts? What does getting us into wars have to do with both presidents avoiding the draft?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    Bush is being called a draft dodger.
    Didnt Clinton dodge the draft too??

    What POINT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND..... Quit trying to read into shlt that isnt even available. You assume too much just to keep an argument going...

    How much more clear do I have to be in my posts? What does getting us into wars have to do with both presidents avoiding the draft?????
    um i never said clinton didnt dodge the draft dip sh-t, i said that clintons draft dodgin didnt present a big problem in clintons election. i think you need to learn to read and UNDERSTAND that i never said clinton wasnt a draft dodger.

    everyone wants to talk about kerrys veitnam record, well how about we talk about bush's draft dodging instead.

    reading comprehension helps here

    bush wants to say he's a more fit commander, but he's a draft dodger, and at the same time bush wants to say kerry isnt a fit commander, but he didnt dodge the draft. hmmm something maybe you should think about

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    Bush is being called a draft dodger.
    Didnt Clinton dodge the draft too??

    What POINT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND..... Quit trying to read into shlt that isnt even available. You assume too much just to keep an argument going...

    How much more clear do I have to be in my posts? What does getting us into wars have to do with both presidents avoiding the draft?????

    Quote Originally Posted by jcstomper
    um i never said clinton didnt dodge the draft dip sh-t, i said that clintons draft dodgin didnt present a big problem in clintons election. i think you need to learn to read and UNDERSTAND that i never said clinton wasnt a draft dodger.

    everyone wants to talk about kerrys veitnam record, well how about we talk about bush's draft dodging instead.

    reading comprehension helps here

    bush wants to say he's a more fit commander, but he's a draft dodger, and at the same time bush wants to say kerry isnt a fit commander, but he didnt dodge the draft. hmmm something maybe you should think about

    don't make me pull this board over right now....cause i'll do it....i swear i will.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    yea people form new york, cali and mass arent inbred.....now ohio, texas, alabama, louissiana........thats a diff story
    ah, now that ohio was won by bush, they are inbred....you libs are good at changing your character with the scenery....your whole party is a scam.

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    dam elliot....one of your own is calling you inbred now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    dam elliot....one of your own is calling you inbred now.....

    wow, this whole inbred thing seems to get under your skin, too close to home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sin
    wow, this whole inbred thing seems to get under your skin, too close to home?
    if i remember right, i wasn't the one starting the inbreeding convo....the title of the thread has it as a simple adjective and all you libs took it literally...

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