for the guys that carry guns

**tycin** · 12-26-2004, 07:35 PM

i used to roll around strapped all the time, i just went to clubs/bars where i knew the owners and/or bouncers so i wouldnt get patted down. i dont carry one on me now but sometimes i will depending on where i go. its nothing about being tough or a false sense of security its just if my life is in danger im gon to something about it, im not about to go out without a fight.

**Kato** · 12-26-2004, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by MMA

people don't realize the potential of a gun to de-escalate a situation.

ya think?

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-26-2004, 08:52 PM

you ppl are crazy.....so not losing a pissing match or not wanting to have your vehicle jacked is worth throwing the rest of your life away?

grow up and get insurance....nothing in this world is worth dieing over.....

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 12-27-2004, 12:02 AM

how about not going to places where youll need one snoop dogg lol

move to a different state or city

i cant comment much, orlando, tampa bay, key west, miami, bloomington, and indianapolis are the two big cities ive hanged at. never felt that need to have a gun or anything and still had plenty of fun and plenty of women. miami looked shady in some areas, but i didnt stop in those areas so no idea

**Phillyboy1** · 12-27-2004, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

you ppl are crazy.....so not losing a pissing match or not wanting to have your vehicle jacked is worth throwing the rest of your life away?

grow up and get insurance....nothing in this world is worth dieing over.....

why is it throwing our life away? who said i was gonna kill anyone? if someones trying to rob me maybe ill just shoot them in the leg and call the cops? or if a group of people try to jump me i shoot one of them and then call the cops? that isnt throwing my life away, dude check your laws before you talk about it. your state has the most leanent laws of the USA for guns. you can shoot people for alot more reasons in your state then mine

**Phillyboy1** · 12-27-2004, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by MMA

WTF? who the f^ck said the sense of security we gave ourselves was false? this wasn't a good luck charm, this is a lethal weapon capable of providing a very real degree of security in many situations. if someone pulled a knife or tried to rat pack you, a piece is a tremendous attitude adjuster. people don't realize the potential of a gun to de-escalate a situation.

very true, amen bro

**Phillyboy1** · 12-27-2004, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate

how about not going to places where youll need one snoop dogg lol

move to a different state or city

i cant comment much, orlando, tampa bay, key west, miami, bloomington, and indianapolis are the two big cities ive hanged at. never felt that need to have a gun or anything and still had plenty of fun and plenty of women. miami looked shady in some areas, but i didnt stop in those areas so no idea

na i like my town, honestly ive traveled to about 26 states and would have it no other way then to live where i live now. every other place i go after about 4 days i hate it and wanna go back to philly. its just a weird thing, you live here your whole life and you dont wanna go anywhere else. i have everything i could ever want with only about 1 hours drives in every direction. plus this city has the attitude that i love lol. when i was in san fran a few years ago with my mom, some bum came up to us and tried to get money from my mom. she flipped out on him and gave him probably the most attitude he's ever seen from a female. lol she is just used to it cause of what philly made her into lol. i laughed my ass off, everyone here has a attitude of some type and i like the vibe from it. i know im sick lol. i also like crazy ass attitude having puerto rican girls that would slash your tires if you talk the wrong sh-t to them lol. im a sick f-ck sometimes

**mass junkie** · 12-27-2004, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate

miami looked shady in some areas, but i didnt stop in those areas so no idea

You mean you didnt get out of your car and ask for directions while in Overtown?

**apocalypseRC51** · 12-27-2004, 12:15 AM

here in canada, i feel as safe without one as I would with one :shrug cant carry here tho...

**BDTR** · 12-27-2004, 03:00 AM

Better to be caught with it than without it. I dont know about you guys but id rather have my life and a little time in the clink than a tombstone.

That being said, i dont carry when i go to bars anymore. I carry 24/7 for the most part, but if im in a very comfortable area with my friends, it stays in the trunk.

**Phillyboy1** · 12-27-2004, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by MMA

better judged by 12 than carried by 6

werd

**Pale Horse** · 12-27-2004, 09:15 AM

At one time I was an Insurance Agent, right outta school. Back then they still had "debit" accounts left. I lived in Philly at the time. My accounts because I was new were in the worst areas of Philly, even the projects. I always wore a dark suit and Ray Bans (the cop kind) people thought I was 5-0 all the time. In the summer when it gets hot people come out onto the porches and streets cause it's cooler. Things get real nasty real quick sometimes. I carried and had a permit.

I got into one situation, only one and I'm glad I had it that's all I'm gonna say about it.

**Red Ketchup** · 12-27-2004, 09:33 AM

I honestly cannot imagine living in an area where I have to carry a piece... it just doesn't jive with my reality.

But then things are a little different here... to put you in context, in ALL of Canada for 2003, there were 548 homicides, of which 100 were in my province. *

I do carry a blackjack for my work (enforcement for dept of environment) for personal protection, but even that is not legal here and would get me in trouble were I not carrying a badge.

Red

* = source: http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/legal12a.htm

**Commando_Barbi** · 12-27-2004, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by jcstomper

werd

LOL I heard that in academy sooo many times. Jury vs pallbearers... I'd take the jury too

**Commando_Barbi** · 12-27-2004, 10:24 AM

I don't care about my car getting stolen....hell, I'd love the insurance company to buy me a new one.....BUT.....we had women getting kidnapped, held for days and raped repeatedly and then either killed or dumped. One woman was lucky enough to escape....after 3 days in the back of a van. I'd rather die fighting than ever be raped again!

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

you ppl are crazy.....so not losing a pissing match or not wanting to have your vehicle jacked is worth throwing the rest of your life away?

grow up and get insurance....nothing in this world is worth dieing over.....

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-27-2004, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by jcstomper

why is it throwing our life away? who said i was gonna kill anyone? if someones trying to rob me maybe ill just shoot them in the leg and call the cops? or if a group of people try to jump me i shoot one of them and then call the cops? that isnt throwing my life away, dude check your laws before you talk about it. your state has the most leanent laws of the USA for guns. you can shoot people for alot more reasons in your state then mine

ok, weve already talked about this and you know how i feel.

you and i get into an argument over some bs like a parking spot....i don't back down and you pretty much know your going take an ass beating.....so you pull your gun....well thats fine bc i'm just going to smile and walk away....get your plate number....pay 200 bucks and get all your personal info....then i'll meet when your coming out of your house at 7am with a baseball bat.....see what i mean? if your not willing to kill me and you pull a gun i will come back and hurt you....bad. and most likely your family will be watching.....so thats what i mean by its not worth throwing your life away....now if you have a permit great....carry one. but you still better be ready to kill when you pull it.....and i'm not......i would rather be called a punk at the moment when the person has a gun and come back to set his ass on fire when i know i won't be caught.

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-27-2004, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Commando_Barbi

I don't care about my car getting stolen....hell, I'd love the insurance company to buy me a new one.....BUT.....we had women getting kidnapped, held for days and raped repeatedly and then either killed or dumped. One woman was lucky enough to escape....after 3 days in the back of a van. I'd rather die fighting than ever be raped again!

well my mom and sister in law carry .25's in their vehicles.....thats understandable.....

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-27-2004, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by bdtr

Better to be caught with it than without it. I dont know about you guys but id rather have my life and a little time in the clink than a tombstone.

That being said, i dont carry when i go to bars anymore. I carry 24/7 for the most part, but if im in a very comfortable area with my friends, it stays in the trunk.

bro....honestly....do you really need a gun?

i didn't think so....

**Pale Horse** · 12-27-2004, 11:39 AM

Daddy, what if there is a gay male serial rapist? Can we hunks carry then?

Kiddin!

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-27-2004, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Daddy, what if there is a gay male serial rapist? Can we hunks carry then?

Kiddin!

ok...i just changed all my views....i'm going to be toting from here on out.....

d_amn butt burgulars......

**Red Ketchup** · 12-27-2004, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

d_amn butt burgulars......

Are they related to the HamBurgler?

Red

**Commando_Barbi** · 12-27-2004, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

well my mom and sister in law carry .25's in their vehicles.....thats understandable.....

Could give a chit about material things....I've survived bad **** once..because I wasn't able to protect myself. Now, I can and I will. My boyfriend is a martial arts instructor, so he's gonna start working with me on that. Watch out bad guys!!!

**tycin** · 12-27-2004, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

bro....honestly....do you really need a gun?

i didn't think so....

bro u dont know wut the situation is! how do u know he or anyone for that matter does or doesnt need one?? theres times that i need to have one on me, maybe u will never need to carry a gun but that doesnt mean everyones the same. u might think its dumb but thats the life i chose and i dont regret anything about it. i dont roll around strapped 24/7 but theres times when i do.

**BDTR** · 12-28-2004, 01:23 AM

I think the fact that ive been shot on more than one occasion make it rather important.

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

bro....honestly....do you really need a gun?

i didn't think so....

**cjp85** · 12-28-2004, 05:47 PM

I hear a lot of this stuff like "I can't imagine living somewhere where you have to crry a gun". Well that's kind of like saying "I cant imagine driving on roads where I need car insurance." Ask anyone who carries concealed and they will tell you that they hope nothing ever happens, and most of the time nothing will ever happen, but that doesnt mean you shouldn't carry. If that were my outlook on life, I wouldnt have health insurance, dental insurance, my house would not be insured and I sure as hell wouldnt wear a seat-belt or have air-bags in my car, but the fact of the matter is that I do. If you don't want to carry, then don't; but I know for sure that when I can I will. Just look at BDTR, being shot not only once, but twice serves as a very valid reason to carry a tool that could insure his life if the situation were to ever occur again.

**Duck of Death** · 12-28-2004, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by cjp85

I hear a lot of this stuff like "I can't imagine living somewhere where you have to crry a gun". Well that's kind of like saying "I cant imagine driving on roads where I need car insurance." Ask anyone who carries concealed and they will tell you that they hope nothing ever happens, and most of the time nothing will ever happen, but that doesnt mean you shouldn't carry. If that were my outlook on life, I wouldnt have health insurance, dental insurance, my house would not be insured and I sure as hell wouldnt wear a seat-belt or have air-bags in my car, but the fact of the matter is that I do. If you don't want to carry, then don't; but I know for sure that when I can I will. Just look at BDTR, being shot not only once, but twice serves as a very valid reason to carry a tool that could insure his life if the situation were to ever occur again.

....Well said.

**Phillyboy1** · 12-29-2004, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

ok, weve already talked about this and you know how i feel.

you and i get into an argument over some bs like a parking spot....i don't back down and you pretty much know your going take an ass beating.....so you pull your gun....well thats fine bc i'm just going to smile and walk away....get your plate number....pay 200 bucks and get all your personal info....then i'll meet when your coming out of your house at 7am with a baseball bat.....see what i mean? if your not willing to kill me and you pull a gun i will come back and hurt you....bad. and most likely your family will be watching.....so thats what i mean by its not worth throwing your life away....now if you have a permit great....carry one. but you still better be ready to kill when you pull it.....and i'm not......i would rather be called a punk at the moment when the person has a gun and come back to set his ass on fire when i know i won't be caught.

why would i pull my gun when you try and take my parking spot? thats a pretty stupid scenario you thought up. im not a thug that would do that, im a normal person. most likely the thug would shoot you though, it happened last week in philly, one guy shot another guy over a parking spot

**The Baron** · 12-29-2004, 10:56 PM

Why shoot a guy over a parking spot? It is a lot more fun to GIVE UP the parking spot, then pay some crack fiend $50 to flat his tires LOL! But I would never do that, either...

**palme** · 12-30-2004, 09:23 AM

I only carry my ASP(AST in the states? Its a tactical batoon, the girl in RE2 had 2...), it goes with me everywere, even to the gym.
I have it cause i get threats when i work and want to have an equalizer at hand.
Guns arent that common overhere, only used when people get killed.

Stay safe and carry where ever you feel you might need it bro.

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-30-2004, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by jcstomper

why would i pull my gun when you try and take my parking spot? thats a pretty stupid scenario you thought up. im not a thug that would do that, im a normal person. most likely the thug would shoot you though, it happened last week in philly, one guy shot another guy over a parking spot

so its a stupid scenario yet it happened last week...hmmm

look i'm arguing about this anymore....if you carry a gun and pull it be ready to kill bc there are ppl like me that if you don't kill me i will come and get you and your family.....i'm just twisted like that....

and yeah it is thug mentality......vs mob mentality.....

**Sta11ion** · 12-30-2004, 02:38 PM

People like you make me what to have security(GUN), if something such as a parking spot will get you all pissed to a point to come after a guy at his house and do something to him and his family, that is just wrong. I hope the people here are saying legit guns with permits which I believe they are. To carry a weapon just favours your odd more towards you.... I dont what to throw off topic but when I was a kid my house got robbed. The problem was that I was home and he did not know this. But luckily my neighbor saw him breaking into the house. This man found me anyway he put a gun to my throat and was asking were the keys to my farthers mercedes and keys for the gun cabinet were. While he was saying this my neighbor came into the house and saw this the man put the gun in his pocket then my neighbor shot him in the shoulder he dropped and I ran away. Now I did not know were the keys were for both of them, so lets just say he thought I was lying what would he of done beat me, stab me shoot me. I dont know but if it wasnt for my neighbor with his quick thinking I maybe not be here to tell you this. Instead a person who has no respect for a life is in jail were he belongs.,

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

so its a stupid scenario yet it happened last week...hmmm

look i'm arguing about this anymore....if you carry a gun and pull it be ready to kill bc there are ppl like me that if you don't kill me i will come and get you and your family.....i'm just twisted like that....

and yeah it is thug mentality......vs mob mentality.....

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-30-2004, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sta11ion

People like you make me what to have security(GUN), if something such as a parking spot will get you all pissed to a point to come after a guy at his house and do something to him and his family, that is just wrong. I hope the people here are saying legit guns with permits which I believe they are. To carry a weapon just favours your odd more towards you.... I dont what to throw off topic but when I was a kid my house got robbed. The problem was that I was home and he did not know this. But luckily my neighbor saw him breaking into the house. This man found me anyway he put a gun to my throat and was asking were the keys to my farthers mercedes and keys for the gun cabinet were. While he was saying this my neighbor came into the house and saw this the man put the gun in his pocket then my neighbor shot him in the shoulder he dropped and I ran away. Now I did not know were the keys were for both of them, so lets just say he thought I was lying what would he of done beat me, stab me shoot me. I dont know but if it wasnt for my neighbor with his quick thinking I maybe not be here to tell you this. Instead a person who has no respect for a life is in jail were he belongs.,

you are missing the entire point....no i don't get pissed off about a parking spot....

i said if someone pulls a gun on me....read the thread....then reread it...cause you are lost

**Sta11ion** · 12-30-2004, 03:04 PM

I understood what you wrote, but for you to go to the extent to get satisfaction because he pulled out a gun and you feel like you got punked.But instead of calling the police you go to the extent of going to this guys house to put a bat across his head. You are the one that is lost. You are not above the law, if you think so you will get caught and you will become that crinimal. If someone pulls a gun on me, I will get out of there and call the police. My life is worth more then being punked. Even if I had a gun and I can fight back but I have choice to get away with out getting harmed I would make that choice. That is why there are people called police officers who inforce the law.....you are not above the law Regardless what your friends might perceive you as. All I am saying is that guns are good and bad. If no one had a gun, sure there would be no point to have it. But because even criminals have them, it makes me feel and others a sense of security.

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-30-2004, 03:08 PM

either way....don't pull a gun unless you are ready to kill the person....i'm not so i don't carry a gun....

if you have a permit more power to you....but you still have to be ready to kill the person

**Bigen12** · 12-30-2004, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

either way....don't pull a gun unless you are ready to kill the person....i'm not so i don't carry a gun....

if you have a permit more power to you....but you still have to be ready to kill the person

I agree, you should never aim your weapon at anything that you are not intending on shooting.

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

that if you don't kill me i will come and get you and your family.....i'm just twisted like that....

No flame intended here, however I think that going after anyone’s family is a little over the top. I could understand you taking the issue up with the guy, but leave his family out of it.

**DADDYDBOL** · 12-30-2004, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bigen12

No flame intended here, however I think that going after anyone’s family is a little over the top. I could understand you taking the issue up with the guy, but leave his family out of it.

i know it is....thats the point....it hurts alot more to have loved ones hurt and know yours is coming....but like i said i'm twisted and i don't get even....i get way more....

now pls this has been discussed on this board and others and i'm ready to drop it bc neither side is going to change....

all i'm saying (once again) is that if you are going to threaten to take my life....be ready cause i don't forget

**Phillyboy1** · 12-30-2004, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

so its a stupid scenario yet it happened last week...hmmm

look i'm arguing about this anymore....if you carry a gun and pull it be ready to kill bc there are ppl like me that if you don't kill me i will come and get you and your family.....i'm just twisted like that....

and yeah it is thug mentality......vs mob mentality.....

like i said, if i pull my gun, its getting used. but like i also said, i wouldnt pull it out over some stupid BS like a parking spot

**BDTR** · 12-30-2004, 05:24 PM

MMA is right, almost anytime ive pulled a firearm i didnt even have to point it, just unholster it and anyone with a bat or brass knuckles immediatly drops them and runs. If i shot everyone who has pulled a knife or a bat on me, id be doing 200 years right now.

**Phillyboy1** · 12-30-2004, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by MMA

fight inside the club, both sides get booted out. tempers are running hot, and people have gone to their cars and grabbed bats, tire irons, knives etc. they catch you alone and there is blood in there eyes. you know you won't be able to talk your way out of it, and you don't know when they'll stop. do you really think the best solution is to pull it out and start blasting away?

you probably won't even have to point it. draw, hold at the high ready, and tell them whats going to happen if they keep coming. this helps protect you legally as well. if they still want to continue to advance/threaten you, then point. on the internet, it's easy to talk about what you would do to someone who pulled a gun on you, but in real world, the business end of that weapon looks about 4 feet wide. their eyes get wide and they sober up quickly.

you go home,thats what its all about, not macho bull****.

yep exactly

**Animal Cracker** · 01-03-2005, 10:54 PM

Yes, I pack even though I am going to drink- not when I am going to get blasted. If I have a few beers/glasses of wine with lunch or dinner, I still carry a pistol. Yes it is a "no-no". but I throw it to chance. I carry a Kel-Tec, so it passes the curosry pat-down and scan-nice and thin- and polymer!