Gas Prices

**MILPOLDAN1** · 03-23-2005, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by swoll4589

We also have to keep in mind the exteremly fast growth rate of other countrys. China will eventually get wealthier and alot more of them will be driving instead of riding bikes. China accounts for 1/4 of the worlds population. The demand for oil is gonna be going up big time.

well then the govt. better figure out some other source of fuel soon

**swoll4589** · 03-23-2005, 08:57 PM

So yall think were screwed unless we can make our cars run of alcohol or something.

**Moosepellet** · 03-23-2005, 09:14 PM

Your telling me $2.15, that f-in insane. If they don't do something soon, I'll be forced to gas and go. j/k

**talltanman** · 03-23-2005, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by swoll4589

So yall think were screwed unless we can make our cars run of alcohol or something.

No I don't think we are screwed at all. If the TREE HUGERS would wake up & realize what world we are living in I ti=hink we would be just fine. There are enough un-taped oil reserves within US territory (mostly in the Gulf of Mexico & Alaska) to replace 74% of all imported oil for the next 180 years. However restrictions due to liberal legislation restricts the production of these reseves. It would cost over $100 dollars a barrel to tap these reserves as opposed to the $57 dollars a barrel to purchase this oil from overseas.

Hopefully this tragedy today will wake some of these hypocrites driving there cars & heating there homes with fuel oil to the fact that major upgrades are needed to are refining facilities within the US.

Looser regulation on oil production & oil exploration is the ONLY real hope we have of some economic relief. UNLESS YOU WANT TO RIDE AROUND ON AN EXTRMELY FLAMMABLE HYDROGEN CELL FUEL CAR.

talltanman

**Basilus** · 03-23-2005, 09:29 PM

I'll tell you what I think Bush and his friends are trying to do (his friends include the arab oil producers) They raise the prices in his first term. Then when it comes time for him to be re-elected they go down again. So now that he has a "mandate" and is re-elected the prices are slowly rising again, with no end in site.

So basicly they are setting us up, the armerican consumers, to get used to these high gas prices. We are gonna scream and moan as the prices inch higher and higher then when they drop it down to 2$+ a gallon they hope we will say "Omg thank you! Only 2$!!" which is total crap. 2$ a gallon with todays fuel economy, in a society that basicly requires you to own a car, combined with increasing commute times is INSANE.

They could make fuel from Corn and Soybeans that could run todays cars with a little modification. So instead of the Goverment subsidising our farms not to plant some crops and watching them go broke. Why not help them out and do everyone in American a favor and get us away from fossil fuel partialy atleast.

**J.S.N.** · 03-23-2005, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by swoll4589

So yall think were screwed unless we can make our cars run of alcohol or something.

actually we can. the problem is if we were to convert all our cropland in the united states to fuel production, we still wouldn't be able to replace gasoline given our current (extremly wasteful) fuel demands. even though peeps think that ethanol fuel is somehow better for the environment because it comes from corn, it's not. corn is very hard on the soil and takes alot of nutrients to grow. converting corn to useable alcohol isn't that efficient either. by far the best current source of energy is oil, although i've seen some promising alternatives on "speed racer."

i say might as well use it 'till it runs out- then w and his saudi buddies can bite my (at that point dead) chunk and let the hydrogen boys move in (although the gas corporations will prolly control that industry too when it finally happens).

**J.S.N.** · 03-23-2005, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by talltanman

Looser regulation on oil production & oil exploration is the ONLY real hope we have of some economic relief. UNLESS YOU WANT TO RIDE AROUND ON AN EXTRMELY FLAMMABLE HYDROGEN CELL FUEL CAR.

talltanman

they could make a water cell car that uses the reverse of the same process. the only reason they're pushing for hydrogen for nexgen cars is so the fuel companies can charge us for it, the sleazy ****s.

**talltanman** · 03-23-2005, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by John Stamos' Nephew

they could make a water cell car that uses the reverse of the same process. the only reason they're pushing for hydrogen for nexgen cars is so the fuel companies can charge us for it, the sleazy ****s.

I JUST LOVE HOW ALL YOU CONSPIRACY THEORIST GUYS THROW AROUND THE WORD "THEY'.

The first thing that YOU should do is figure out who "they" is. No such technology exists. Do you actually believe this garbage? If it did do you really think they could keep it hidden. Don't you believe that everyone would love to eliviate our dependence on Crude oil?

**XxElitexX** · 03-23-2005, 10:01 PM

yes, gas prices are getting insane....2.09 here in ks for unleaded.

**J.S.N.** · 03-23-2005, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by talltanman

I JUST LOVE HOW ALL YOU CONSPIRACY THEORIST GUYS THROW AROUND THE WORD "THEY'.

The first thing that YOU should do is figure out who "they" is. No such technology exists. Do you actually believe this garbage? If it did do you really think they could keep it hidden. Don't you believe that everyone would love to eliviate our dependence on Crude oil?

they = companies that are currently working on hydrogen fuel cell automobiles. they have decided to to hydrogen cells instead of water because water is abundant and free in most of the areas with the greatest energy needs.

in iceland right now the government is commited to converting the fuel economy over to water cell technology over the next 100 years. in america the focus is on hydrogen cells.

so shut it ya hoser bocaron you're the one who believes that there's enough fuel in alaska to meet our energy needs for 180 years- a figure no reputable geologist would claim even about the saudi oil fields.

ps hydrogen cars flammable... oooooooo i'm scared what do you think a gasoline-powered car is ya smelly puto?

**JDawg1536** · 03-23-2005, 10:12 PM

$2.83, quit your bitching fvckers.....

**Explosive215** · 03-23-2005, 10:17 PM

i have a 32 gallon gas tank on my silverado....it takes around $65-70 to fill it up now.

**talltanman** · 03-23-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by John Stamos' Nephew

they = companies that are currently working on hydrogen fuel cell automobiles. they have decided to to hydrogen cells instead of water because water is abundant and free in most of the areas with the greatest energy needs.

in iceland right now the government is commited to converting the fuel economy over to water cell technology over the next 100 years. in america the focus is on hydrogen cells.

so shut it ya hoser bocaron you're the one who believes that there's enough fuel in alaska to meet our energy needs for 180 years- a figure no reputable geologist would claim even about the saudi oil fields.

ps hydrogen cars flammable... oooooooo i'm scared what do you think a gasoline-powered car is ya smelly puto?

1. You still have not explained how water cell cars could possibly work. PS THEY DO NOT WORK!
2. Yea Iceland is in the forefront of ALL ACIENTIFIC
DISCOVERIES!!

3. I said that there is enough untaped crude in THE GULF OF MEXICO & ALASKO FOR THE NEXT 180 YEARS. (caps in case you have bad vision)4. Any idiot knows that gasonline is also flammable. DOES THE IDIOT THAT THIS POST IS RESPONDING TO REALIZE THAT HYDROGEN AT THE LEVELS REQUIRED TO PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER TO MAKE A VEHICLE MOBILE IS FLAMABLE UPON CONTACT WITH THE AIR THAT FLOATS AROUND IN THE ATMOSPHERE?
Plain & simple English definition= if there is a leak there will be an explosion as powerful as 32 sticks of TNT.

I REALIZE THAT IN THE PERFECT FAIRYTELL NEVERLAND THAT YOU LIVE IN NONE OF THIS IS RELEVANT, HOWEVER THE REST OF US WOULD PREFER NOT TO STRAP OUR ASS TO AN ACME ROCKET LIKE THE LOONEY TUNES COYOTE.

OWNED!!!!!!!

**BARLOW** · 03-23-2005, 10:41 PM

we have different fuel sources, but why would the government promote them when they can make a ****load off gas right now the way it is? the technology has been around for many years. its all about money. btw, i get free gas, dad is a roadcommissioner so i fill up from the tank outside anytime i want :P

**talltanman** · 03-23-2005, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by BARLOW

we have different fuel sources, but why would the government promote them when they can make a ****load off gas right now the way it is? the technology has been around for many years. its all about money. btw, i get free gas, dad is a roadcommissioner so i fill up from the tank outside anytime i want :P

The government would TAX ANY fuel source. Oil, hydrogen, water, propane, solar, whatever. They will get their's. So don't worry about them. They don't like cigarettes, however they get their fair share. In this case we can not sit back & blame the Government. It is up to us to rise up & have a sound discussion on how to improve our situation.

**BARLOW** · 03-23-2005, 11:08 PM

ummm why do you think the governemnt is talking about taxing by the mile you drive instead of filling up at the tank? because of electric cars, cause they cant make any **** money off hybrids.........there are fuel efficient cars that can keep up with todays fast hotrods, but they wont be produced cause all the rich folk would lose money.

**talltanman** · 03-23-2005, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by BARLOW

ummm why do you think the governemnt is talking about taxing by the mile you drive instead of filling up at the tank? because of electric cars, cause they cant make any **** money off hybrids.........there are fuel efficient cars that can keep up with todays fast hotrods, but they wont be produced cause all the rich folk would lose money.

HHHHHMMMM well
1. Only liberal states like California & Iliionois have suggested this as far as I am aware. (*If I am mistaken please show me HOW I am mistaken.)
2. These are the same states that punish people (HIGHER TAXES) for owning cars in the first place.

**talltanman** · 03-23-2005, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by BARLOW

ummm why do you think the governemnt is talking about taxing by the mile you drive instead of filling up at the tank? because of electric cars, cause they cant make any **** money off hybrids.........there are fuel efficient cars that can keep up with todays fast hotrods, but they wont be produced cause all the rich folk would lose money.

LET ME ALSO APPOLIGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THE FACT THAT YOU LIVE IN A TAX HAPPY STATE.

We don't have high taxes in Texas. ie... no State income TAX

**J.S.N.** · 03-23-2005, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by talltanman

1. You still have not explained how water cell cars could possibly work. PS THEY DO NOT WORK!
2. Yea Iceland is in the forefront of ALL ACIENTIFIC
DISCOVERIES!!

3. I said that there is enough untaped crude in THE GULF OF MEXICO & ALASKO FOR THE NEXT 180 YEARS. (caps in case you have bad vision)4. Any idiot knows that gasonline is also flammable. DOES THE IDIOT THAT THIS POST IS RESPONDING TO REALIZE THAT HYDROGEN AT THE LEVELS REQUIRED TO PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER TO MAKE A VEHICLE MOBILE IS FLAMABLE UPON CONTACT WITH THE AIR THAT FLOATS AROUND IN THE ATMOSPHERE?
Plain & simple English definition= if there is a leak there will be an explosion as powerful as 32 sticks of TNT.

I REALIZE THAT IN THE PERFECT FAIRYTELL NEVERLAND THAT YOU LIVE IN NONE OF THIS IS RELEVANT, HOWEVER THE REST OF US WOULD PREFER NOT TO STRAP OUR ASS TO AN ACME ROCKET LIKE THE LOONEY TUNES COYOTE.

OWNED!!!!!!!

1. water is catalytically converted to hydrogen and oxygen using solar electricity. here is the first link i found on the subject.

2. iceland is the world leader in in geothermal energy use, and for a tiny country does more than it's fair share of scientific work.

3. untaped?! oh like it hasn't been recorded on vhs or what? the current estimate as far as world petroleum reserves (saudi arabia containing ~70% of them is that they would last 50-100 years at current rates.

4. sorry i hate to break it to you but h2 does not, in fact, explode upon contact with the air.

sorry did you say owned? darn right beeotch.

**BARLOW** · 03-23-2005, 11:35 PM

i think we win this arugment john stamos! lets give a big
OWNED

**J.S.N.** · 03-23-2005, 11:48 PM

mmkay...

pwned!!!!!!!

besides i already said gasoline is the best auto fuel source currently used... not exactly ultra left-wing tree-hugging ranting.

i just said us fuel suppliers would rather develop hydrogen cells than water cells because they can then sell hydrogen at service stations. let's face it, no matter what happens internal combustion engines will not be possible to use some time in the relatively near future given our current technology (discounting hanger 18 ultrafuel of course).

**Hed** · 03-23-2005, 11:48 PM

Pssssst...........THE BILL WAS SIGNED TO TAP ALASKA! GET WITH IT

The bill was signed last week to begin drilling in the Arctic Natl. Wildlife refuge.......Im not a tree hugger by any means, but thats just retarded. They are gonna absolutely destroy that place, for gas to drop like $.15 a gallon. Big friggin deal.

**thickmass** · 03-24-2005, 01:26 AM

What you talkin' bout Willis?

In Sydney it's about to hit (the equivalent of) $3.50 a gallon

**Vito_Gatti** · 03-24-2005, 01:40 AM

Where I live the 87 is 2.33 and the premium is 2.53.

**BUBBA74** · 03-24-2005, 02:43 AM

Yeah its starting to suck around here! Reg is 2.10

***xxx*** · 03-24-2005, 03:28 AM

bah, u and ur cheap gas prices - and still whining! we pay 5,40$ for a gallone so pls...I actually think it s a good development in the US. time for u ppl to get some more efficient cars...

***G-1000*** · 03-24-2005, 09:51 AM

im in north jersey and it's $1.97 for 87oc

**ire** · 03-24-2005, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by swoll4589

We also have to keep in mind the exteremly fast growth rate of other countrys. China will eventually get wealthier and alot more of them will be driving instead of riding bikes. China accounts for 1/4 of the worlds population. The demand for oil is gonna be going up big time.

Exactly, its the growth in India! So much for outsourcing, corporate america.

**Juggernaut** · 03-24-2005, 10:03 AM

Paid $2.14 a gallon this morning! I shall now start working on my Nuclear power automobile tonight. Anyone know where I can get some plutonium?

**Maraxus** · 03-24-2005, 10:04 AM

2.23 regular. 2.39 supreme this morning

**ire** · 03-24-2005, 10:04 AM

Been $2.20 for 87oct/Regular here in IN for while now.

**Red Ketchup** · 03-24-2005, 10:54 AM

$0.98 per litre here in montreal this morning

Thats roughly $3.70 per gallon

Red

***asymmetrical1*** · 03-24-2005, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by swoll4589

Ok these gas prices are getting fukkin crazy. Im paying $2.06 a gallon here i realize thats not as bad as some of you have to pay but still. Its gonna break people. Especially the trucking industry. Whats up the the dam federal government these days.

how about 1.20euro/liter ........

**punchrf** · 03-24-2005, 11:13 AM

i just payed $2.45 a gallon last night for the cheap stuff. i couldn't imagine putting 91 octance in. i just filled up a couple 5 gallon gas cans for drag racing this weekend and it was like $6.00 a gallon for 110 octane.

**Deezuhl** · 03-24-2005, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by punchrf

i just payed $2.45 a gallon last night for the cheap stuff. i couldn't imagine putting 91 octance in. i just filled up a couple 5 gallon gas cans for drag racing this weekend and it was like $6.00 a gallon for 110 octane.

we are at 770 a gallon for 116 octane. thats man made anyway so the rise or decline in gas prices dont matter anyway for race gas.