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    jensen, quit being obstinate..anyone who knows about FUNCTIONAL training will tell u, for efficiency and strength, theres obviously a way to train thats specifically for attaining applicable strength while maintaining/slightly increasing an optimal weight..which dependent upon the individual, of course. oly lifters and sprinters fall under this category, just as an example. i definitely lift, and im definitely strong for my size and people bigger than me, but im DEF not big by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDTR
    I have larger quads at a lower bodyfat than some 1000lb squaters at similar heights, why am I not squatting 1000lbs? They are not trying to curve weight for competion either, these are superheavy weights.

    Cause your weak..

    Same here though.

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    u have to read everything i said brah.... i said i wasnt comparing one persons size/strength to anothers... and I then was applying that statement as a GENERAL rule. I also was talking about a person who wanted to "gain weight" as well as strength...
    read left to right, top to bottom...

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    hmmmm waffle press

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    Strength and size are not interchangeable.

    By training for strength, you will get bigger muscles yes, but you also make your muscles more efficient. When a person flexes his bicep, not necessarily all the fibers are contracting. By training properly your central nervous system will learn to fire more fibers per contraction. So, you can up your bench without getting any bigger, just by becoming more muscularly efficient.

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    Technique plays a big role too. Most people really have no idea how to bench or squat properly. They might be able to add a few pounds to their lifts just by making a few small changes with the way they set up, how they breathe, arching their back, keeping their shoulders tight, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDTR
    For size or strength?
    For size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Stamos' Nephew
    yes, they work hard but you see lotsa peeps work really hard in the gym but they get poor gains 'cause they don't use massive amounts of AAS.

    massive amounts of AAS are sweet. jay cutler, ronnie coleman, gunther schlierkampf, chris cormier, what do they all have in common?

    massive amounts of AAS.


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    Funny i thought it was the Growth Hormones ... silly me.. i guess its all about the AAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitnessNY
    BDTR posted his back routine a few weeks ago. Does anyone have a link or know what it is?
    http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...70&postcount=1


    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    I didnt even see that you said this... why are you even arguing with me?

    I will say though that strength DOES EQUAL weight

    Bodybuilders train for size by using reps of 8-12
    Powerlifters train for strength by using reps of 2-3

    1.If i trained for 12 months like a bodybuilder, I will have gained more size in those 12 months than 2.

    2.If i trained for 12 months for power (2-3reps) i would have more strength than size. Proving bdtrs statement that it is dependant upon training methods and not direct coalition between strength and size

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    this is what i was saying
    STRENGTH= WEIGHT lifted

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