arms overtraining

**chest6** · 02-24-2006, 01:09 PM

On my current routine:

Monday-Chest/shoulders
Tuesday-Back/Traps
Wed-off
Thurs-off
Friday-Arms
Saturday-legs

My biceps get more sore from Tuesdays back workout than they ever will from Friday. By Friday, my biceps are still sore. I don't really think working them out would be a good idea, probably overtraining. My triceps get sore from chest/shoulder push day on Monday, but they really aren't sore anymore by Friday. My arms are really lagging and I don't want to overtrain them and add to the problem. Is my only real option to revert back to my Chest/Tricep / Back/Bicep routine??

**chest6** · 02-24-2006, 01:10 PM

dammit wrong forum...I coulda sworn I was in the workout forum..Could a mod move this

**steve0** · 02-24-2006, 01:12 PM

why did u post this here you otta know better

**steve0** · 02-24-2006, 01:14 PM

chest/bis
back/tris
shoulder/tris
legs

**Myka** · 02-24-2006, 01:22 PM

your biceps are more sore on back day because the back excersices work to stretch the biceps etc...

Im starting to be an advocate of just working out muscles by listening to my body...rather than setting them on a certain day...JMO...

**63190** · 02-24-2006, 01:33 PM

I go
chest
back
legs
shoulders
arms
legs
repeat.

**taiboxa** · 02-24-2006, 02:15 PM

how about looking at my regiemtn and giving it a shot.. lots of people are loving it.

lil hard on the body but if u take an extra day off every now and then its perfect for me.

**chest6** · 02-24-2006, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by steve0

why did u post this here you otta know better

Originally Posted by chest6

dammit wrong forum...I coulda sworn I was in the workout forum..Could a mod move this

didnt mean to my bad

Originally Posted by taiboxa

how about looking at my regiemtn and giving it a shot.. lots of people are loving it.

lil hard on the body but if u take an extra day off every now and then its perfect for me.

Ill take a look at it one sec..

**Anna Bollick** · 02-24-2006, 05:29 PM

It might be or it might not be overtraining. Depends a lot on you, and also on how many sets/reps you do. Mostly, I am beginning to think that overtraining is an urban myth. Remember, the old guys used to train daily, doing either full body or two part split, without gear, and some of them looked pretty durn good, Girlfriend.

Here is something someone gave me recently:
Day 1 upper back
Day 2 quads
Day 3 chest
day 4 abs
day 5 shoulders
day 6 biceps
day 7 forearms
day 8 triceps
day 9 Hams, glutes, erectors
day 10 calves
Off cycle, do as written, no more than two exercises and no more than two sets of each. On cycle, do the scheduled bodypart and also the part that is 5 days away. For instance, immediately after upper back, do biceps. Oh quads day, also do forearms. On chest day, also do triceps. etc etc. A day off only when you feel like it.

Actually, as given, it was laid out graphically, like a spoked wheel with 10 spokes, each labeled with a body part, and on cycle, just add the opposite spoke's body part to each day's workout, and progress clockwise around the circle. Off cycle, just do the indicated body part. You can draw this out on paper. It is like fabulously easy to keep track of what you are doing, Girl!

Love
Anna

**ShnouzedUp** · 02-24-2006, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Anna Bollick

It might be or it might not be overtraining. Depends a lot on you, and also on how many sets/reps you do. Mostly, I am beginning to think that overtraining is an urban myth. Remember, the old guys used to train daily, doing either full body or two part split, without gear, and some of them looked pretty durn good, Girlfriend.

Here is something someone gave me recently:
Day 1 upper back
Day 2 quads
Day 3 chest
day 4 abs
day 5 shoulders
day 6 biceps
day 7 forearms
day 8 triceps
day 9 Hams, glutes, erectors
day 10 calves
Off cycle, do as written, no more than two exercises and no more than two sets of each. On cycle, do the scheduled bodypart and also the part that is 5 days away. For instance, immediately after upper back, do biceps. Oh quads day, also do forearms. On chest day, also do triceps. etc etc. A day off only when you feel like it.

Actually, as given, it was laid out graphically, like a spoked wheel with 10 spokes, each labeled with a body part, and on cycle, just add the opposite spoke's body part to each day's workout, and progress clockwise around the circle. Off cycle, just do the indicated body part. You can draw this out on paper. It is like fabulously easy to keep track of what you are doing, Girl!

Love
Anna

That wouldn't do diddly shiat for me, BOY!

**TADOLFI** · 02-24-2006, 09:29 PM

Chest - I'd give it about three weeks and see where you're at. What part of the bicep is sore?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 02-24-2006, 10:57 PM

dude same with me,,,more sore from a back workout than arm workout.

**chest6** · 02-24-2006, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by TADOLFI

Chest - I'd give it about three weeks and see where you're at. What part of the bicep is sore?

Hard to describe. Above elbow on the outer side?

**Tren Bull** · 02-24-2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

On my current routine:

Monday-Chest/shoulders
Tuesday-Back/Traps
Wed-off
Thurs-off
Friday-Arms
Saturday-legs

My biceps get more sore from Tuesdays back workout than they ever will from Friday. By Friday, my biceps are still sore. I don't really think working them out would be a good idea, probably overtraining. My triceps get sore from chest/shoulder push day on Monday, but they really aren't sore anymore by Friday. My arms are really lagging and I don't want to overtrain them and add to the problem. Is my only real option to revert back to my Chest/Tricep / Back/Bicep routine??

i try to think of my back workouts as also a bicep workout. the thing to know about biceps is that they get taxed on normal day to day activities. its good to give them lots of time to rest. training the sh_t out of then is good as long as you give them time to rest and grow

**chest6** · 02-24-2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anna Bollick

It might be or it might not be overtraining. Depends a lot on you, and also on how many sets/reps you do. Mostly, I am beginning to think that overtraining is an urban myth. Remember, the old guys used to train daily, doing either full body or two part split, without gear, and some of them looked pretty durn good, Girlfriend.

Here is something someone gave me recently:
Day 1 upper back
Day 2 quads
Day 3 chest
day 4 abs
day 5 shoulders
day 6 biceps
day 7 forearms
day 8 triceps
day 9 Hams, glutes, erectors
day 10 calves
Off cycle, do as written, no more than two exercises and no more than two sets of each. On cycle, do the scheduled bodypart and also the part that is 5 days away. For instance, immediately after upper back, do biceps. Oh quads day, also do forearms. On chest day, also do triceps. etc etc. A day off only when you feel like it.

Actually, as given, it was laid out graphically, like a spoked wheel with 10 spokes, each labeled with a body part, and on cycle, just add the opposite spoke's body part to each day's workout, and progress clockwise around the circle. Off cycle, just do the indicated body part. You can draw this out on paper. It is like fabulously easy to keep track of what you are doing, Girl!

Love
Anna

that actually looks pretty good..theres a few really short days in there

**Tren Bull** · 02-24-2006, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by 63190

I go
chest
back
legs
shoulders
arms
legs
repeat.

so you have no rest days?

**Tren Bull** · 02-24-2006, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

how about looking at my regiemtn and giving it a shot.. lots of people are loving it.

lil hard on the body but if u take an extra day off every now and then its perfect for me.

that is a great idea. if you are feeling sore, like training a certain muscle group is no good, then give that muscle group a break. its also a good idea to occasionally take a full week off from trining.

**Tren Bull** · 02-24-2006, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by ShnouzedUp

That wouldn't do diddly shiat for me, BOY!

its all about figuring out what works for you. i know that some guys would defiantly gain off a routine that wouldn't do sh_t for me

**chest6** · 02-24-2006, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Tren Bull

i try to think of my back workouts as also a bicep workout. the thing to know about biceps is that they get taxed on normal day to day activities. its good to give them lots of time to rest. training the sh_t out of then is good as long as you give them time to rest and grow

I was thinking about this. Some days, I'll get a shitload of groceries and carry them from the parking garage like 50 yards away..down all these stairs and my biceps will be burning 100x worse than they ever do from a bicep workout. Ive been concerned that this is really hampering their growth.

**Tren Bull** · 02-24-2006, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

I was thinking about this. Some days, I'll get a shitload of groceries and carry them from the parking garage like 50 yards away..down all these stairs and my biceps will be burning 100x worse than they ever do from a bicep workout. Ive been concerned that this is really hampering their growth.

its all good bro. you just have to see this bullsh_t, and compensate for it. make a point of doing regular activities without taxing your muscles as much as possible.

**Tren Bull** · 02-24-2006, 11:24 PM

if you got to carry groceries or whatever, keep your arms straight, and give your biceps as much rest as possible

**chest6** · 02-25-2006, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Tren Bull

if you got to carry groceries or whatever, keep your arms straight, and give your biceps as much rest as possible

Yep, when I carry stuff I always try to keep my arms fully extended and never bend them. This ends up making my shoulders burn, so I never win, but oh well, I see what you are saying.