one thing that seems to be popular with some of the juicers in my gym is "superdrol". i find it funny when there are dudes i know from the gym that are like 20 years old, known to sell juice, tell me or anyone that they gained all their quick size from superdrol. i understand trying to cover yourself but some of these guys i know personally and helped out with some of their questions about trying it..lol.. i guess it may sound better then the excuses i used to give of "lots of protein shakes"