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  1. 04-22-2006, 09:35 AM #1
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    Passing a drug test for a BB show?

    I want to know how guys pass these drug tests at "natural" shows....I know some shows do polygraph tests while others do piss test. I know of MANY guys who juice and do natural shows and pass these drug tests. I know there are a few ways to beat a piss test but how do you beat the polygraph test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    I want to know how guys pass these drug tests at "natural" shows....I know some shows do polygraph tests while others do piss test. I know of MANY guys who juice and do natural shows and pass these drug tests. I know there are a few ways to beat a piss test but how do you beat the polygraph test?
    I've heard of tricks. Put a thumb tack in your shoe. Everytime they ask you a question press down on it.
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  5. 04-22-2006, 09:50 AM #5
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    Personally if you cycle, why do a natural show? Why go through the whole process of having to lie. You can't handle the competition at an untested NPC show where you know everyone juices?
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    in my eye's why are you trying to do a natural show with juice

    why not just do a normal show
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    Im not doing a natural show.....I know plenty of guys that do natural shows that use gear year round and pass the polygraph and piss test.....I am curoius as to how they are doing it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    Im not doing a natural show.....I know plenty of guys that do natural shows that use gear year round and pass the polygraph and piss test.....I am curoius as to how they are doing it....
    If you know all of these guys why are you asking us and not them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    If you know all of these guys why are you asking us and not them?
    The one million dollar question
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  12. 04-22-2006, 01:05 PM #12
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    They all say they are clean!One of my pretty close friends is just one of the guys that competes in natural shows and I know he is not natural. ALL of these guys claim to be natural but it is SO obvious that they are not. My one friend in particular competed in his first show at the age of 19 and ended up placing 2nd overall he weighed in at around 210 ripped to the bone and he is on the short side....he has acne all over and is alway complaining he cant get it up in the sack....so I always tell him to lay off the gear and he still swears that he is clean.Best of all his trainer just got busted for selling gear to an undercover DEA.....I go to these natural shows to cheer my buddies on and it is pretty obvious who is juicing and who is clean. I was just wondering how these guys do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
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    exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    They all say they are clean! One of my pretty close friends is just one of the guys that competes in natural shows and I know he is not natural. ALL of these guys claim to be natural but it is SO obvious that they are not. My one friend in particular competed in his first show at the age of 19 and ended up placing 2nd overall he weighed in at around 210 ripped to the bone and he is on the short side....he has acne all over and is alway complaining he cant get it up in the sack....so I always tell him to lay off the gear and he still swears that he is clean. Best of all his trainer just got busted for selling gear to an undercover DEA.....I go to these natural shows to cheer my buddies on and it is pretty obvious who is juicing and who is clean. I was just wondering how these guys do it.
    Oh, so you don't know for sure they cycle. If they're passing drug tests and lie detector test guess what... THEY MAY BE TELLING THE TRUTH. Maybe they have better genetics.

    Don't hate and accuse them of something they say they're not doing. Until you see these guys with needles hanging out their asses then you don't know for sure.

    I was a gymnast for 20 years of my life and for YEARS guys accused me of juicing because I was so lean. They would walk up and ask me what I cycle and if I take winny. I had no clue what they were talking about. I was natural.
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    ya but carlos, read what you didnt highlite lol, 210 ripped on the short side, **** i hate suspecting everyone is on juice just because they got something i cant naturally lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~fuelforfire~
    ya but carlos, read what you didnt highlite lol, 210 ripped on the short side, **** i hate suspecting everyone is on juice just because they got something i cant naturally lol
    People jump to conclusions. Sometimes it's jealously. He's short and 210. Good for him. Until you know for sure then it's just an accusation.
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    Look Carlos I have been around this sport for long enough to know when someone is using or not. I have 5 cycles under my belt and I am bigger than my friend who was ripped at 210 so no I am not hating......

    Another perfect example is this guy who is 275 at 10%bf at the very most he has very visible abs he benches 405 for reps easy....he claims he is natural OH WAIT best part he is 24 years old.But let me guess I am just hating right?

    Bottom line is I know how to spot a guy in the gym who uses because I have been there before, this thread is about passing a polygraph/piss test when they are NOT clean....And I am so sure of it I am willing to bet my brand new car and every penny I have that they are not clean
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    Look Carlos I have been around this sport for long enough to know when someone is using or not. I have 5 cycles under my belt and I am bigger than my friend who was ripped at 210 so no I am not hating......

    Another perfect example is this guy who is 275 at 10%bf at the very most he has very visible abs he benches 405 for reps easy....he claims he is natural OH WAIT best part he is 24 years old.But let me guess I am just hating right?

    Bottom line is I know how to spot a guy in the gym who uses because I have been there before, this thread is about passing a polygraph/piss test when they are NOT clean....And I am so sure of it I am willing to bet my brand new car and every penny I have that they are not clean
    If that is the case then it makes me wonder why they go through all of the trouble to lie and do a natural show. It's easier to do a none tested NPC show. I would never do a natural show, I ain't natural. I wouldn't do a tested NPC show either.

    Could it be these guys have been off for a couple of years? That can account for them passing the drug tests. The lie detector, like I said, put a tack in your shoe.
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    maybe they know someone on the inside, they will never get caught
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    Well both the guys I mentioned do natural shows but they also do NPC shows...they one dude just placed first place in the HW division in an NPC show and placed 2nd overall, it was just a couple weeks ago in Illinois dexter jackson was the guest poser.
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    i hate when people jump to conclusions all the time when people say they arnt juicing.... leave them alone... i have seen freaks... i just recently competed at nationals for powerlifting and i saw so many freaks...there was a dude that was 165 and looked like he never lifted a weight in his life and pulled over 630lbs thats just a few
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    Why do you need to juice to do a natural bb show?
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    Dude, do you not read? I AM NOT DOING A NATURAL SHOW!....I am not doing ANY kind of show period. This thread is about OTHER guys who get away with it.
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    the tack trick is used for stress elevation. U only use it when you are telling the truth. then when you lie the stress elevation will look the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    Dude, do you not read? I AM NOT DOING A NATURAL SHOW!....I am not doing ANY kind of show period. This thread is about OTHER guys who get away with it.
    yeah i didnt read i just kinda skipped to the bottom on this one i was in a rush haha
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    is slin okay in a natural show?

    I know its not a steroid and all ..but still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    is slin okay in a natural show?

    I know its not a steroid and all ..but still...
    how about Clen ?
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