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    Im reading a bunch of classic books this summer just to learn some new shit. This one book called Sperm Wars will blow your f@#$ing mind. It explains exactly why women and men cheat, uses about 40-50 situations then exlpains in detail biologically why they cheated, not psychologically.
    Baker (the author) says everything men and women do is behavoir that emulates the sperm and egg. Some crazy quick facts about sperm.

    *Some sperm have 2 heads, 3 heads, and 4 at the most.
    *Young sperm (newly produced) are the killers (kill other mens sperm, 20%) as they age their role changes to the egg-getters (20%) than the blockers (60%).
    *If you take different sperm from 2 men and mix it under a miscroscope, than add a drop or 2 of cervical fluid from a female, her fluid sends a chemical message to the sperm that causes them to fight and kill each other while searching for the egg. (But in that case will die and never find it)
    *All sperm contain a capful of lethal poison in thier heads which can kill 4-5 other sperm, the older sperm commonly engage in suicide killings.
    *Evolution as a species relies on "smart vaginal muscles" inside a women and thier ability to use cervical fluid to filter out weak sperm. A womans body will actually encourage healthier sperm (better DNA) and will make the weaker sperms job harder (during flowback, all women know what that is, hopefully men too)
    *Men masturbate between regular intercourse for one main reason. His job as a male is to be a reproductive success. So by frequent (or not so frequent, get to this later) ejaculation, he sheds himself of the weak old sperm. A sperm onece releases only has 4-5 days to find the egg before death. Too many old sperm clog up the cervical fluid and prevent younger egg-getters from finding the egg. Masturbation = younger sperm = more chance of fertility (whether or not the man wants to impregnate the woman)
    *Frequency of masturbation is dependent upon the actual size of a mans testies, as men age testies shrink and so does sperm production. Men with bigger testies produce more sperm and have more of a need to shed the stress of more frequent production through masterbation.
    *A man's job to = reproductive success, is to fertilize as many females as possible. A womans job to = reproductive success, is to pick the healthiest sperm with the best DNA. Both have fairly rational reasons to cheat from a biological standpoint.
    *A womans job is to hide her fertility from a man (and herself). In less sophisticated species that dont hide fertility, like monkeys, the men will often fight, mame or rape each other or the female to fertilize her. Human females to constantly evolve (which requires not ro die) are programmed with certain mechanisms to hide fertility from the male aka PMS (which not all women get but explained in book) PMS happens when women are in thier most fertile state and her mood swings are natures way of pretecting her from a male who without the mask of PMS would get highly aggressive with her. Depends on a females liklihood to demonstrate fertility and her need to cover it up.
    *A study was done where men sniffed tampons in a test tube at different weeks of a womans cycle. All men said the smell was most pleasant at the time the women happened to be most fertile, and had the worst smell after releasing her most recent egg.
    *(this one blew my f*&&*kn mind) Back in the day as primates, yes we use to engage in oral sex, but not for pleasure. "Nuzzling the vulva" even today although we have developed certain areas of our brain to "appreciate" such activity that we didnt posses thousands of years ago serves much deeper functions. When we perform oral sex, subconciously our minds are gathering data, 3 main things. 1) Is this women diseased (disease smells and prevents our chance of reproductive success) 2) Has she recently been fertilized by any other males (which instantly causes men to want to inseminate the female) A lot of rapes are commited after the instance a man discovers his womens infedility. 3) How fertile she is, its been documented sweeter smell always = more subconcious incentive to engage in actual intercourse.

    Again all this is governed by subconcious behavoir. Whether or not you disagree with me, read the book and see for yourself. This guy turned age old biological assumptions on thier head with this book.

    So if anyone likes reading classics, this book is a must.

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    BS You can't make a conclusion about how humans act sexual based on what your sperm does...it's so much deeper than that, so many factors involved, mainly your mental stability, morals, values, self awerness etc.

    This line was pretty interesting: "A study was done where men sniffed tampons in a test tube at different weeks of a womans cycle. All men said the smell was most pleasant at the time the women happened to be most fertile, and had the worst smell after releasing her most recent egg."

    How would any test tube be considered "pleasant" smelling?

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    There are 300,000,000 sperm per mL in american guys semem!

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    Males are hunters. You might not realise it but when you lock your eyes on a nice looking woman there is more to it than just morals and values.
    It all boils down to our primal instincts and our urge to find a compatible mate.
    For exmaple, we'll take a famous female who many people consider hot ( Angelina Jolie) .
    nice breasts, good figure, clear skin, nice lips, good posture. People consider these traits to be attractive but most of us don't know WHY.

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    Wow thats awesome how it is actually good to beat off regularly, i thouht i was gonna be in deep shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slob
    Males are hunters. You might not realize it but when you lock your eyes on a nice looking woman there is more to it than just morals and values.
    It all boils down to our primal instincts and our urge to find a compatible mate.
    For exmaple, we'll take a famous female who many people consider hot ( Angelina Jolie) .
    nice breasts, good figure, clear skin, nice lips, good posture. People consider these traits to be attractive but most of us don't know WHY.
    When you over look the importance of human emotions, values, morals, goals, conscience etc. your basically studying an ape. And I wasn't talking about being turned on by a hot girl, yes that happens on its own. But when deciding whether or not that hot piece of ass is worth cheating on your g/f, other factors come into play. Factors that weren't even mentioned in the original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAdam
    BS You can't make a conclusion about how humans act sexual based on what your sperm does...it's so much deeper than that, so many factors involved, mainly your mental stability, morals, values, self awerness etc.

    This line was pretty interesting: "A study was done where men sniffed tampons in a test tube at different weeks of a womans cycle. All men said the smell was most pleasant at the time the women happened to be most fertile, and had the worst smell after releasing her most recent egg."

    How would any test tube be considered "pleasant" smelling?
    Whats deeper than the simplest, most fundamental form of life that contains the fabric of your whole future wrapped up in a little DNA cell contained in the head of a sperm. Your DNA serves a great function in dictating your "mental stability, morals, values, self awareness etc"
    His point is not that we "wind up" emulating the sperm, but that the sperm "initiates" impulses that are tempered with our indivual environments. If your family teaches you to repress sexual urges (brought on by your biology) they (+ a few other major factors) may be the reason why go rape a chick. But ultimately fighting you biology or your nature is one of the most self-destructive things in the world.
    As far as the "BS" comment, Im sure thats why his book was written in 20 different countries and read by millions of people world wide as far as receiving rave reviews from some of the most reputable publishers in the world. Dont even being to think BS before you open the book and read it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slob
    Males are hunters. You might not realise it but when you lock your eyes on a nice looking woman there is more to it than just morals and values.
    It all boils down to our primal instincts and our urge to find a compatible mate.
    For exmaple, we'll take a famous female who many people consider hot ( Angelina Jolie) .
    nice breasts, good figure, clear skin, nice lips, good posture. People consider these traits to be attractive but most of us don't know WHY.
    What about the millions of (retarded) guys who like girls that look like little boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAdam
    When you over look the importance of human emotions, values, morals, goals, conscience etc. your basically studying an ape. And I wasn't talking about being turned on by a hot girl, yes that happens on its own. But when deciding whether or not that hot piece of ass is worth cheating on your g/f, other factors come into play. Factors that weren't even mentioned in the original post.
    Of course, factors like A) will i get away with it B) if not, does the benifit of cheating outweigh the incuring punishment of getting caught.
    And for the record, emotions, morals, goals are ALL the most common elements of conflict. Cheating is about one thing, enhancing reproductive success. Dont tell me you cheated cause "she was hot i wanted to *&ck her" thats the lamest most unthoughtout explanation in the world.
    You cheated to relieve a stress your body placed on you. Your not sure how that stress got there, cause you have "emotions, values, and goals" that conflict with basic impulses to increase your reproductive success. Not dismissing any of what you say, just offering the an opposite perspective. Its ultimately a mixture of biology and psychology that produces any person. And it would be illogical to dismis either area as equally responsible for a persons behavoir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69
    Whats deeper than the simplest, most fundamental form of life that contains the fabric of your whole future wrapped up in a little DNA cell contained in the head of a sperm. Your DNA serves a great function in dictating your "mental stability, morals, values, self awareness etc"
    His point is not that we "wind up" emulating the sperm, but that the sperm "initiates" impulses that are tempered with our indivual environments. If your family teaches you to repress sexual urges (brought on by your biology) they (+ a few other major factors) may be the reason why go rape a chick. As far as the "BS" comment, Im sure thats why his book was written in 20 different countries and read by millions of people world wide as far as receiving rave reviews from some of the most reputable publishers in the world. Dont even being to think BS before you open the book and read it yourself.
    Based on what you posted I'm still going with BS. "But ultimately fighting you biology or your nature is one of the most self-destructive things in the world." Fighting your biology is what made societies possible, if we all went around doing what we felt like doing ex.(**** every hot girl you see) what would we be? Baboons.

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    "Its ultimately a mixture of biology and psychology that produces any person. And it would be illogical to dismis either area as equally responsible for a persons behavoir."

    I think we're saying the same thing then.

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    I can atest to this
    "*Frequency of masturbation is dependent upon the actual size of a mans testies, as men age testies shrink and so does sperm production. Men with bigger testies produce more sperm and have more of a need to shed the stress of more frequent production through masterbation."

    It would bring some credibility if the author had an editor, whats masterbation?
    A master masturbator?

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    thats a paraphrase of what he wrote in my own words, im not sure i know what you mean though..
    if you spend your time looking for mispelled words in a classic disseration of humanity, that usually signifies a serious lack of any real concrete evidence to support what you believe, and is nothing short of time well wasted imo.
    But again, its me who cant spell not the author, so that means you should disagree with everything i say..

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAdam
    Based on what you posted I'm still going with BS. "But ultimately fighting you biology or your nature is one of the most self-destructive things in the world." Fighting your biology is what made societies possible, if we all went around doing what we felt like doing ex.(**** every hot girl you see) what would we be? Baboons.
    our biologies def dont dictate our every action, but they do hold a place in almost every thought or emotion we have, we keep bouncing back and forth from one extreme to another, im not saying **** every hot girl you see, but that if we didnt give into our biologies, and fought all our urges and repressed them, we certaintly wouldnt exist.
    and sometimes i think if i was a baboon id be less sexually frustrated than as a human with a brain who has to court and seduce women than just nuzzle thier vuvla and bend them over.

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    some of that is a bit erotic

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    yeh the "can i nuzzle ur vulva" question always works..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69
    yeh the "can i nuzzle ur vulva" question always works..
    I don't think that was the clincher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69
    Of course, factors like A) will i get away with it B) if not, does the benifit of cheating outweigh the incuring punishment of getting caught.
    And for the record, emotions, morals, goals are ALL the most common elements of conflict. Cheating is about one thing, enhancing reproductive success. Dont tell me you cheated cause "she was hot i wanted to *&ck her" thats the lamest most unthoughtout explanation in the world.
    You cheated to relieve a stress your body placed on you. Your not sure how that stress got there, cause you have "emotions, values, and goals" that conflict with basic impulses to increase your reproductive success. Not dismissing any of what you say, just offering the an opposite perspective. Its ultimately a mixture of biology and psychology that produces any person. And it would be illogical to dismis either area as equally responsible for a persons behavoir.
    It was def an interesting read Bo, but I don't know if I agree with the whole "biological impulse to increase reproductive success". If I was to cheat (I don't) or even if I'm tryin to pick up chicks, I don't think it's for reproductive success. What would be the purpose for contraceptives if this were the case? Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I think it's more of a physcial thing than biological.

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    Btw way Bo, I emailed this to my girl, I'm interested to see what she thinks. If I pulled the "biological needs" card for cheating, she'd probably cut my piece off.

    Who is the author of this book? Would be interested in seeing some of his other work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNoMac
    It was def an interesting read Bo, but I don't know if I agree with the whole "biological impulse to increase reproductive success". If I was to cheat (I don't) or even if I'm tryin to pick up chicks, I don't think it's for reproductive success. What would be the purpose for contraceptives if this were the case? Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I think it's more of a physcial thing than biological.
    if humans were asexual and could reproduce without a partner, would they cheat on themselves?!?! ahaha im being dumb now. But I think for the majority we have mechanisms working in us that are going to cause us to behave first than seek an explanation for the behavoir after (an explanation that rarely justifies the true cause). All i know is i can be in the best of best relationships, not bored with my girl at all, be head over heals for her, but still i see an attractive girl and no matter what intelligent thoughts were going through my mind at that moment this inner urge ALWAYS prevails. I might not have the conscious thought "i wanna bang her" but the second i see her i know exactly what my body is telling me. When I think about it, there is absolutely no way in hell i can stop my body from doing that, no matter how much will power or mind control or rationalizing, my body still wants what it wants. And although my mind wont allow it, i just think its interesting (for me) to realize what humans use to be, how we have evolved, and how the gap between our biological primal urges, and present psychology is literally thousands of years apart. And how this gap of evolution effects us today. Im not taking everything in the book like the bible (i dont even take the bible like the bible) but it will blow your mind no matter who reads it. That i guarantee, unless they're one of those simple people.
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    oh and the author is Robin Baker..

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