Friend with no confidence

[southmadejd]

Okay everybody I have a slight dilemma. One of my closest friends for about 9 years now needs some serious help. He is about 6'3" and about 140lbs. He could actually be somewhat of an attractive guy if he would gain about 50 lbs and bleach his hideous looking teeth.

So I brought up to him the other day that for him to gain weight he may need something else. Now this is one of those guys who could seriously eat everything in sight and probably gain about 5 lbs in a year. I am sure you all no the type of people I am talking about.

I told him maybe he should consider a cycle. I told him about maybe just doing a test only cycle for about 12 weeks and I promised him he could gain around 20 lbs or more. Now of course I would tell him he needs to work out for about 4 months before even touching a steroid .

Well he has this misconception that steroids is a horrible horrible drug. I guess it is what the media has portrayed it to be but I have tried to convince him over and over that it isn't. I just think it would raise his confidence about 150% and he might even actually get some pussy out of it. I mean it sucks for him to even go out with us because girls will look and start discussing which one of them is actually going to have to talk to him. I know this may sound a little ruthless but I just want the dude to get laid and get some confidence.

But I just don't think any weight gainers will do it for him. Any suggestions???

[Kärnfysikern]

If he isnt into lifting getting him to juice to put on pounds is a realy realy bad idea.

A guy with bad confidence realy cant be "forced" to improve. Sooner or later he will realise he isnt happy beeing that way and will take charge of it his own way.

[Liftnainez]

6'3 140, huh?
I mean he could on juice im sure it would help.. but people who say they eat everything and cant gain weight= BULL$HIT!!! Tell him to REALLY EAT, WORKOUT and im SURE he will put on weight naturally very QUICKLY..

[southmadejd]

6'3 140, huh?
I mean he could on juice im sure it would help.. but people who say they eat everything and cant gain weight= BULL$HIT!!! Tell him to REALLY EAT, WORKOUT and im SURE he will put on weight naturally very QUICKLY..

Yeah I guess you are right but he has said that he has tried every weight gainer there is and he still can't gain any weight. And I mean I used to be roommates with the guy about 5 years ago so I know he does eat a lot and it is quality food. Even if he could gain weight I don't think that he could gain the amount that he needs to gain.

[southmadejd]

If he isnt into lifting getting him to juice to put on pounds is a realy realy bad idea.

A guy with bad confidence realy cant be "forced" to improve. Sooner or later he will realise he isnt happy beeing that way and will take charge of it his own way.

You are right Johan and I would never ever force anybody to do anything. I guess it just frustrated me because he has no respect for himself. I mean how can someone just let their body look like that. If he doesn't respect himself how could he ever respect anybody else.

[notanormalgent]

Show him the HBO special on steroids .

[nirish_mark20]

u want him to train for 4 months then do a cycle? man wise up! he needs a lot more than that, some people do weights for a year then realise they hate it, he needs to get a good feel and love for this man!! what happens if he does the cyce then stops the weights??? hel lose his gains! u need to get him to a gym, get him trainer hard, eating hard and learning the right way to do things!!

[southmadejd]

u want him to train for 4 months then do a cycle? man wise up! he needs a lot more than that, some people do weights for a year then realise they hate it, he needs to get a good feel and love for this man!! what happens if he does the cyce then stops the weights??? hel lose his gains! u need to get him to a gym, get him trainer hard, eating hard and learning the right way to do things!!

No you are right Mark but I have talked to him about this. I told him that if he were to train hard and then do a cycle that it is possible for him to lose all of his gains if he doesn't keep up the intensity in his workouts. But I honestly believe that if you work out for 4 months and really get serious about it then your body would be used to lifting and he would be able to do a cycle. I mean he is already so skinny that his BF must be under 15%. The only problem is I don't think he has that much muscle either.

[Liftnainez]

Its really good that your trying to help him out bro.. Juice may not be the answer just yet.. bring him to the diet forum and show him the mass bulk diet stickies..

[southmadejd]

Its really good that your trying to help him out bro.. Juice may not be the answer just yet.. bring him to the diet forum and show him the mass bulk diet stickies..

Yeah I will try that out. And I am not saying Juice is definitely the answer. I just brought it up as one of the solutions.

[Liftnainez]

yea i hear you bro..

[Kärnfysikern]

You are right Johan and I would never ever force anybody to do anything. I guess it just frustrated me because he has no respect for himself. I mean how can someone just let their body look like that. If he doesn't respect himself how could he ever respect anybody else.

They need a wakeup call. I was kind of like that when I was young. But I was majorly fat and slobby.

[SwoleCat]

Tell him to eat and then brush!

Seriously, at a whopping 140, steroids are the last thing this guy needs.

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[DutchCowboy]

get him in the gym and have him start pounding the core movements. Focus on legs and he should put on some descent size in a short time.
he can eat all the weight gainers in the world and it isn't going to help. He needs to prime his body (workout) to be able to use the additional nutrients without crapping them out. You say he eats everything in site and still doesn't grow? B.S., put him in the gym and then tell him to eat everything in site. Bet he grows like a weed.

Here is an idea. Instead of him juicing, why don't you juice your balls off and let him see the results of your hard work in the gym. maybe that will inspire him when he sees you packing on pounds of muscle.

Cheers

[southmadejd]

Tell him to eat and then brush!

Seriously, at a whopping 140, steroids are the last thing this guy needs.

~SC~

You really don't think it would help him at all Swole?

[southmadejd]

get him in the gym and have him start pounding the core movements. Focus on legs and he should put on some descent size in a short time.
he can eat all the weight gainers in the world and it isn't going to help. He needs to prime his body (workout) to be able to use the additional nutrients without crapping them out. You say he eats everything in site and still doesn't grow? B.S., put him in the gym and then tell him to eat everything in site. Bet he grows like a weed.

Here is an idea. Instead of him juicing, why don't you juice your balls off and let him see the results of your hard work in the gym. maybe that will inspire him when he sees you packing on pounds of muscle.

Cheers

Yeah you are right man. he should try that for awhile. Just some people get discouraged when they don't see any results.

[DutchCowboy]

Just some people get discouraged when they don't see any results.

thats why YOU do the juice and it will give him something to strive for when he sees you putting on weight.

[southmadejd]

I like your thinking Dutch.

[rake922]

I told him about maybe just doing a test only cycle for about 12 weeks and I promised him he could gain around 20 lbs or more. Now of course I would tell him he needs to work out for about 4 months before even touching a steroid.

4 months? and then he's ready to start injecting?

That's ridiculous, he has no base at all...

[DutchCowboy]

Something else too. I wouldn't fill his mind with too much info on him from this forum; any forum for that matter. My reasoning is that the more he reads, the more he will realize how much he doesn't know. That in itself may discourage him even more.
Try to get him in the gym and teach him what you have learned from all the folks on this here site.

[Carlos_E]

Okay everybody I have a slight dilemma. One of my closest friends for about 9 years now needs some serious help. He is about 6'3" and about 140lbs. He could actually be somewhat of an attractive guy if he would gain about 50 lbs and bleach his hideous looking teeth.

So I brought up to him the other day that for him to gain weight he may need something else. Now this is one of those guys who could seriously eat everything in sight and probably gain about 5 lbs in a year. I am sure you all no the type of people I am talking about.

I told him maybe he should consider a cycle. I told him about maybe just doing a test only cycle for about 12 weeks and I promised him he could gain around 20 lbs or more. Now of course I would tell him he needs to work out for about 4 months before even touching a steroid .

Well he has this misconception that steroids is a horrible horrible drug. I guess it is what the media has portrayed it to be but I have tried to convince him over and over that it isn't. I just think it would raise his confidence about 150% and he might even actually get some pussy out of it. I mean it sucks for him to even go out with us because girls will look and start discussing which one of them is actually going to have to talk to him. I know this may sound a little ruthless but I just want the dude to get laid and get some confidence.

But I just don't think any weight gainers will do it for him. Any suggestions???

Very bad advice. Steroids are not a quick fix.

[THE_DOME]

through that kid in the military or a martial art

[no1snowman]

He wants to gain lots of weight..become a truck driver...thats the only
advice I can give....but yet would like to help out...

[beuleux]

take him to the local massage parlour

[daytrader]

Yeah I guess you are right but he has said that he has tried every weight gainer there is and he still can't gain any weight. .

Now tell him to try eating.... like chicken and steak every 2 hrs.... i agree... i cantgain weight is a copout excuse...

[Anabolios]

i seen something about a pizza buffet..tell this beanpole to eat til he feels sick anything in sight..i did it and put on some fat now im evening out its worth it

[taiboxa]

i would say he has hyperthyroidism get that shit checked

[SwoleCat]

You really don't think it would help him at all Swole?

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[taiboxa]

~SC~

is that a yes?no? ><

[Carlos_E]

i would say he has hyperthyroidism get that shit checked

I have hyperthyroidism. I take my meds now look at me. :-)