Who was the greatest commander/leader ever

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Who do you think was the best commander/leader of all time? I think my top 4 are Caesar, Ghengis Khan, Alexander the great or Napoleon. cant make up my mind

[Grappler13]

Hands down

[Kale]

Field Marshal Montgomery !!

[RA]

George Bush

That should stir up the bastards.

[G-1000]

George Bush

That should stir up the bastards.

That shoudl get this locked

[collar]

adolf hitler

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adolf hitler

haha hitler? he was a good leader but not close to the greatest

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not to mention he was crazy

[RA]

That shoudl get this locked

[G-1000]

adolf hitler

He was one of the smartest.

[JDawg1536]

Hannibal Barca

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He was one of the smartest.

borderline crazy, a lot of his relatives were diagnosed with severe mental illness

[Beefyman]

George Bush

That should stir up the bastards.

[Beefyman]

adolf hitler

he was def smart as hell got a freaking nation to follow him in a few years

[kyjelly]

Jesus

[kyjelly]

As far as military speaking, no doubt General George Smith Patton, Jr.

He was one hell of a guy

[JDawg1536]

As far as military speaking, no doubt General George Smith Patton, Jr.

He was one hell of a guy

He was given a lot of credit for some things he didnt do.

Hannibal did more with what he was given than any of the others mentioned. All the others were leaders of some of the biggest powers in the world. Its not too hard to lead a big, well funded military. Hannibal didnt have shit, and he brought together many different groups of men and kicked the the crap out of Rome for years. He was in charge of the bloodiest battle in history, in which up to 70,000 Romans were killed or captured in one day.

[kyjelly]

He was given a lot of credit for some things he didnt do.

Hannibal did more with what he was given than any of the others mentioned. All the others were leaders of some of the biggest powers in the world. Its not too hard to lead a big, well funded military. Hannibal didnt have shit, and he brought together many different groups of men and kicked the the crap out of Rome for years. He was in charge of the bloodiest battle in history, in which up to 70,000 Romans were killed or captured in one day.

lol well damn.

but yeah, Hannibal doesnt have anything on the J man.

what if hannibal was jesus. wow. Jesus didnt have anything....he brought ev1 together...he kicked ass... That explains why he killed 70000 romans. its all coming together now.

[Psychotron]

Hitler and Napolean where both great commanders, they both lost their shit due to the same attack. Though Hitler's mental decline was significant by the time he decided they should keep attacking russia.

Hannibal wasn't really that great, he just managed to get the best of Rome on a few occasions. Sun-Tzu comes to mind as best of all time.

[JDawg1536]

lol well damn.

but yeah, Hannibal doesnt have anything on the J man.

what if hannibal was jesus. wow. Jesus didnt have anything....he brought ev1 together...he kicked ass... That explains why he killed 70000 romans. its all coming together now.

Reminds me of the South Park where Jesus boxes Satan.

[kyjelly]

Reminds me of the South Park where Jesus boxes Satan.

o yeah!


that was funny

love southpark

[JDawg1536]

Hannibal wasn't really that great, he just managed to get the best of Rome on a few occasions.

Well can you name anyone else that got the best of Rome on a few occasions? The Romans adopted many of his tactics and strategies after he kicked their ass. He captured the second largetst city in the empire, but lacked the manpower to move on. He would have taken over Rome if that werent the case.

[Teabagger]

Are you forgetting Russell Crowe?? Shit...he kicked a bunch of ass.

[Psychotron]

Well can you name anyone else that got the best of Rome on a few occasions? The Romans adopted many of his tactics and strategies after he kicked their ass. He captured the second largetst city in the empire, but lacked the manpower to move on. He would have taken over Rome if that werent the case.

Almost everyone who attacked after 100 AD

[kyjelly]

saddam or bin laden....not trying to piss anybody off.

I hate them, but to plan an attack like they did, that was pretty damn slick.

Another guy, Castro...


I hate them all though.

[JDawg1536]

Almost everyone who attacked after 100 AD

I failed to add "in their prime". The empire was in decline by that time. Thats like saying Chicago has the best defense ever because they shut out Brett Favre.

[FRANK WHITE]

Russell Crowe! LOL Thats a good one. Maximus was a kick ass dude in Gladiator.

I would have to go with Ghengis Khan. With an Army of never more than 250,000 Mongols he was the greatest conquerer in history. He conquered All of Russia, China, most of the middle east, and half of Europe. He invented lightning war which the Germans later adopted and called Blitzkrieg. Rommel stated most of his ideas were based on the tactics of the Mongols. His use of mobile horseman who where experts with their powerful recurve bows, tough as hell Soldiers, and ruthless but very skillful tactics led him to endless victories.

I believe the only time the Mongols ever really lost a major battle was when they tried to invade Japan and were wiped out by a Typhoon. Read some stuff on The Mongols if you like military history. They were as hardcore as it gets.

[LatinoPR]

As far as military speaking, no doubt General George Smith Patton, Jr.

He was one hell of a guy

The best ever...!!!

[Prada]

Who do you think was the best commander/leader of all time? I think my top 4 are Caesar, Ghengis Khan, Alexander the great or Napoleon. cant make up my mind

I would agree with all those and maybe even add Hitler, yet it's hard to compare them being from a different era. Also have the Ottoman empire as well as the persian.

[humungus88]

As far as commanders, I would say Patton or Rommel. They both had an enormous amount of respect for eachother. I read that Rommel found some of Patton's men stranded in the dessert, and instead of letting them die, he gave them water and supplies. Patton responded by sending Rommel a box of cigars, and a case of champagne.

[JDawg1536]

As far as commanders, I would say Patton or Rommel. They both had an enormous amount of respect for eachother. I read that Rommel found some of Patton's men stranded in the dessert, and instead of letting them die, he gave them water and supplies. Patton responded by sending Rommel a box of cigars, and a case of champagne.

I met Rommel's great grandson or somethin alon those lines. Kid got a 1600 on his SATs.

[Prada]

Russell Crowe! LOL Thats a good one. Maximus was a kick ass dude in Gladiator.

I would have to go with Ghengis Khan. With an Army of never more than 250,000 Mongols he was the greatest conquerer in history. He conquered All of Russia, China, most of the middle east, and half of Europe. He invented lightning war which the Germans later adopted and called Blitzkrieg. Rommel stated most of his ideas were based on the tactics of the Mongols. His use of mobile horseman who where experts with their powerful recurve bows, tough as hell Soldiers, and ruthless but very skillful tactics led him to endless victories.

I believe the only time the Mongols ever really lost a major battle was when they tried to invade Japan and were wiped out by a Typhoon. Read some stuff on The Mongols if you like military history. They were as hardcore as it gets.

Indeed. Mongols and Ghengis Khan were a dominant empire.