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    Do bodybuilders suffer from B D D?

    Or a certain milder form of it?

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    Body Dysmorphic Disorder (**D) is a mental disorder, which involves a disturbed body image. Body dysmorphic disorder is generally diagnosed of those who are extremely critical of their physique or self image, despite the fact there may be no noticeable disfigurement or defect.

    Most people wish they could change or improve some aspect of their physical appearance, but people suffering from **D, generally considered of normal apearence, believe that they are so unspeakably hideous that they are unable to interact with others or function normally for fear of ridicule and humiliation at their appearance.

    **D combines obsessive and compulsive aspects which has linked it to the OCD spectrum disorders among psychologists. People with **D may engage in compulsive mirror checking behaviors or mirror avoidance, typically think about their appearance for more than one hour a day and in severe cases may drop all social contact and responsibilities as they become homebound. The disorder is linked to an unusually high suicide rate among all mental disorders.

    It is estimated that **D affects 1-2% of the population,[citation needed] mostly developing in adolescents. Chronically low self-esteem is characteristic of those with **D due to their value of oneself being so closely linked with their perceived appearence. The prevalence of **D is equal in men and women, and causes chronic social anxiety for those suffering from the disorder.

    (Replace the ** with B & D).
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    I think most of society does.. not just body builders..

    My sister has anoriexia/ bulimia - she never sees how skinny she is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    I think most of society does.. not just body builders..

    My sister has anoriexia/ bulimia - she never sees how skinny she is..
    talk about stark contrasts... in twins no less!

    (you are talking about the twin sister, right?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stunner5000pt
    talk about stark contrasts... in twins no less!

    (you are talking about the twin sister, right?)
    yup she tells me i make her wanna puke because of the way i look.. but shes tiny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    yup she tells me i make her wanna puke because of the way i look.. but shes tiny
    awww... thats shitty

    the next time she asks you for coffee, sneak in some whey in there!

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    i know i do....everyone tells me i'm big & look great but i dont see it...I want to be bigger & look better no matter how good i actaully look.

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    i do

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    Quote Originally Posted by getnjakked
    i know i do....everyone tells me i'm big & look great but i dont see it...I want to be bigger & look better no matter how good i actaully look.
    Im the same way.If i look at myself i really cant tell i workout.but other people tell me i big.Not to brag

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBT
    Or a certain milder form of it?

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:-

    Body Dysmorphic Disorder (**D) is a mental disorder, which involves a disturbed body image. Body dysmorphic disorder is generally diagnosed of those who are extremely critical of their physique or self image, despite the fact there may be no noticeable disfigurement or defect.

    Most people wish they could change or improve some aspect of their physical appearance, but people suffering from **D, generally considered of normal apearence, believe that they are so unspeakably hideous that they are unable to interact with others or function normally for fear of ridicule and humiliation at their appearance.

    **D combines obsessive and compulsive aspects which has linked it to the OCD spectrum disorders among psychologists. People with **D may engage in compulsive mirror checking behaviors or mirror avoidance, typically think about their appearance for more than one hour a day and in severe cases may drop all social contact and responsibilities as they become homebound. The disorder is linked to an unusually high suicide rate among all mental disorders.

    It is estimated that **D affects 1-2% of the population,[citation needed] mostly developing in adolescents. Chronically low self-esteem is characteristic of those with **D due to their value of oneself being so closely linked with their perceived appearence. The prevalence of **D is equal in men and women, and causes chronic social anxiety for those suffering from the disorder.

    (Replace the ** with B & D).
    darn man, that sounds just like me i keep looking at my face thinking it is all jacked up looking but it is not (or so says my gf and my family and friends). i think i am fat, but i am not it is amazing how much this disorder is like me. should i see a pshych about it?? i thought about killing my self i am sad to say (this happend when i was 16) i am always in the bathroom checking out my face about 10min every hr i take mics on my cell and look at em then throw em away well i am 230 lbs 14%BF 6,2

    my 500mgs test cycle makes me feel better (make me feel normal)

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    Yeh, definately me. I'm constanty looking at myself in mirrors flexing, anwhere, friend's house, mall, any reflective surface I look at to see how look. Damn... I hope I don't commit suicide

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    the problem is looking into a mirror/ judgement.

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    Hell yeah I do, being your own worse enemy is the only way to achieve greatness

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    Hell yeah I do, being your own worse enemy is the only way to achieve greatness
    hmmm.....i like this statement

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    I have to agree with this, I myself no matter what I look like I see the same fat kid in the mirror that was me .. no matter what i look like ... hell i have been training for over a decade .... and trained with s few guys that were HARD core competive BB and always followed that routine .... and people would always say MAN why dont you compete... you look YADA YADA .. what ever .... i always made ecuess ... than can the time i was going to compete i trained so hard ... than came show day .... 245 @4.5%bf I chickend out becasue when I look at my self I still sceen the same fat kid that everyone made fun of and did'nt want to do it

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    Amazing thread. Since I was kid I have always wanted to be big. I ate faster and more food than anyone I knew. When I was five, my grandfather scolded me because my favorite magazine was "Muscles and Fitness." He said that was for adults and I should be interested in kid things. I loved that magazine. Now I have all the time, education, money, and resources to do it and I am. I am amazed by the fact that the deeper into this lifestyle I go, the more memories as a child I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBT
    Or a certain milder form of it?

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:-

    Body Dysmorphic Disorder (**D) is a mental disorder, which involves a disturbed body image. Body dysmorphic disorder is generally diagnosed of those who are extremely critical of their physique or self image, despite the fact there may be no noticeable disfigurement or defect.

    Most people wish they could change or improve some aspect of their physical appearance, but people suffering from **D, generally considered of normal apearence, believe that they are so unspeakably hideous that they are unable to interact with others or function normally for fear of ridicule and humiliation at their appearance.

    **D combines obsessive and compulsive aspects which has linked it to the OCD spectrum disorders among psychologists. People with **D may engage in compulsive mirror checking behaviors or mirror avoidance, typically think about their appearance for more than one hour a day and in severe cases may drop all social contact and responsibilities as they become homebound. The disorder is linked to an unusually high suicide rate among all mental disorders.

    It is estimated that **D affects 1-2% of the population,[citation needed] mostly developing in adolescents. Chronically low self-esteem is characteristic of those with **D due to their value of oneself being so closely linked with their perceived appearence. The prevalence of **D is equal in men and women, and causes chronic social anxiety for those suffering from the disorder.

    (Replace the ** with B & D).

    Will Rogers said, "I never met a man I didn"t like". Body builders say, "they never saw a mirror they didn't like". I think that might be the opposite of Body Dysmorphic Disorder. Have you ever noticed in some gyms the mirrors make you appear to be bigger. Must be something like "subliminal advertising".
    Like the time we took the tape measure in the gym and wet it, then stretched it. When the guys measured their arms it showed their muscles had gotten smaller so they began to work out like crazy doing curls, etc. ha ha was funny at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobligator
    Will Rogers said, "I never met a man I didn"t like". Body builders say, "they never saw a mirror they didn't like". I think that might be the opposite of Body Dysmorphic Disorder. Have you ever noticed in some gyms the mirrors make you appear to be bigger. Must be something like "subliminal advertising".
    Like the time we took the tape measure in the gym and wet it, then stretched it. When the guys measured their arms it showed their muscles had gotten smaller so they began to work out like crazy doing curls, etc. ha ha was funny at the time.
    well if you are looking at the gym then more than likely it was after your workout and you had a pump

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBT
    Or a certain milder form of it?

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:-

    Body Dysmorphic Disorder (**D) is a mental disorder, which involves a disturbed body image. Body dysmorphic disorder is generally diagnosed of those who are extremely critical of their physique or self image, despite the fact there may be no noticeable disfigurement or defect.

    Most people wish they could change or improve some aspect of their physical appearance, but people suffering from **D, generally considered of normal apearence, believe that they are so unspeakably hideous that they are unable to interact with others or function normally for fear of ridicule and humiliation at their appearance.

    **D combines obsessive and compulsive aspects which has linked it to the OCD spectrum disorders among psychologists. People with **D may engage in compulsive mirror checking behaviors or mirror avoidance, typically think about their appearance for more than one hour a day and in severe cases may drop all social contact and responsibilities as they become homebound. The disorder is linked to an unusually high suicide rate among all mental disorders.

    It is estimated that **D affects 1-2% of the population,[citation needed] mostly developing in adolescents. Chronically low self-esteem is characteristic of those with **D due to their value of oneself being so closely linked with their perceived appearence. The prevalence of **D is equal in men and women, and causes chronic social anxiety for those suffering from the disorder.

    (Replace the ** with B & D).
    The 1-2% is said to be underdiagnosed because people with B.D.D. are too embarassed to talk about. BUT you cant possibly diagnose a whole group of people. Youd have to individually interview them.

    People with **D dont forget have accompanied emotional problems, the disorder usually covers more than one aspect. LIke they're not just concerned about muscle, but the shape of thier teeth, head etc.

    Heres a few questions to answer:


    Do you believe there is a defect in a part of your appearance?


    Do you spend considerable time checking this "defect"?


    Do you attempt to hide this defect with surgery, dieting, or exercise?


    Does the belief cause you significant distress, embarassment or torment?


    Does the flaw intefere with your ability to function at school, social events or work?

    Do friends or family tell you there is nothing wrong or that the defect is minor?

    Still these are only indications, not hard proof.
    Its said 4 percent of adolescents suffer from it. I personally believe its closer to 7-8 percent. Doing research on somatoform disorders right now actually for psych.

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    fvckin a...I always need to look better...that's why i started hitting the gym twice a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69
    The 1-2% is said to be underdiagnosed because people with B.D.D. are too embarassed to talk about. BUT you cant possibly diagnose a whole group of people. Youd have to individually interview them.

    People with **D dont forget have accompanied emotional problems, the disorder usually covers more than one aspect. LIke they're not just concerned about muscle, but the shape of thier teeth, head etc.

    Heres a few questions to answer:


    Do you believe there is a defect in a part of your appearance?


    Do you spend considerable time checking this "defect"?


    Do you attempt to hide this defect with surgery, dieting, or exercise?


    Does the belief cause you significant distress, embarassment or torment?


    Does the flaw intefere with your ability to function at school, social events or work?

    Do friends or family tell you there is nothing wrong or that the defect is minor?

    Still these are only indications, not hard proof.
    Its said 4 percent of adolescents suffer from it. I personally believe its closer to 7-8 percent. Doing research on somatoform disorders right now actually for psych.
    god man those are ALL me. i try 2 forget it but i can't. i ask doc. they can fix it! but its gonna cost me 20k. i am willing to pay for it. BUT everyone can't see it like me. i know my body is good and my health but i hate the way my face looks it is crazy how you nailed it

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    bigger and stronger thats been my drive. why? its not like i need to be bigger or stronger......ive got to have a mental disorder or two

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    uh yea, im constantly trying to improve my body and my mind. dam disorders

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    BB are the furtherst from that description. They wnt to get bigger and stronger cause they can but there some of the most confident ppl in the world. They get up in front of the world, smile and bust out there guns and pose. How can they be?

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    alot of people who have disorders such as this hide them - i think.

    you won't always know someone is a suffer.. some people are wicked at hiding what should be right in ur face - spcifically if they feel itmakes them dramtically different from others.

    Not everyone wants the world to know they have a problem

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    yeah I am just saying in contrast to the definition bb have no issues with going in front of millions and showing off there body. By definition they do not suffer from this paticular disease IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizfit
    alot of people who have disorders such as this hide them - i think.

    you won't always know someone is a suffer.. some people are wicked at hiding what should be right in ur face - spcifically if they feel itmakes them dramtically different from others.

    Not everyone wants the world to know they have a problem
    i think every guy here will agree with me when i say you're so much hotter than that nurse. pleeeeeaaasse change your avy back

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    Quote Originally Posted by zodiac666
    i think every guy here will agree with me when i say you're so much hotter than that nurse. pleeeeeaaasse change your avy back
    halloweeen - i think tis actually a dude in drag

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    I don't know about bodybuilers but I think I definitely suffer from a little bit of that...and maybe bigorexia too (no matter how big you get you still think you're small.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyAddyct
    I don't know about bodybuilers but I think I definitely suffer from a little bit of that...and maybe bigorexia too (no matter how big you get you still think you're small.)
    "Bigorexia". I like that. A new construct. Like my user name. Maybe they should include bigorexia in the DSM 1V. (Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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    I'm a psychiatrist and a body builder. I think that most of us have prime examples of **D. Its not a very well understood condition though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBT
    Or a certain milder form of it?
    Well, duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Todd
    I'm a psychiatrist and a body builder. I think that most of us have prime examples of **D. Its not a very well understood condition though.
    Very true. Thing some people fail to realize is theres BB's who compete and show off thier bodies, than theres the rest of BB's. And i havent done any research but ill throw a rough estimate out there and say maybe 8% of BB's actually compete.

    That leaves 92% of people who are going to the gym everyday and NOT showing off thier bodies publically. Even when outsiders show intrigue in thier physique and they show them that still doesnt dismiss **D as a diagnosis. The rapid esteem surge can cause **D symptoms to freeze up for brief periods.

    Even when **D is dismissed as a diagnosis many BB's exhibit forms of OCPD (not OCD but Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder, different from OCD for those who dont know) The DSM imo is one of the most interesting things to study. I always had reservations about the DSM untill i actually started studying it and it is one of the most interesting references ive ever tried to comprehend before. There SOO much more to it than just a book full of labels.
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    Yup. I'm extreamly critical of the way I look. I think I'm way too fat, and have not nearly enough muscle.

    Now, I am both those currently, and I have no problem admiting it. But I'll always think like that. I could be 300lbs at 5% body fat, and I'd still think about it.

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    Definately suffer from it...

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    lol i know a few people who need to suffer from it..

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    that was a joke btw

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