Saddam Is Hangd Ok!! But this is a very uncomfortable filosofik now.!! nothing more!!

[Doc.Sust]

I try to understand this word the politc stands for..Human rigths here and human rigths ther , but thay do a nother thing instead.
when is it ok to kill civilian??
when is it ok to kill enyway 500mil from home!!

what is it thay whant to say when thay say thay belive in human rigths when
some one kill & go for a war?.


Us/we Human have create from the begining a norm and from that invention.
from that Invention is what we all call Human Rigths to day and it is also a Norm from our creation that we of "somthing" are , and is expekting somthing from it!!


I dont car if we takinga bout japan , sweden or russia ora a war that not have come yet.

human right have been being viloated since the begining of time, this is nothing new nor will it change anytime soon.society is still for the most part barbaric at best in a majority of many countries.
the USA didnt start this, not iraq,japan or russia. it has been happening since the time humans started to record history and no amount of bickering and pointing out the obvious will make a change.
i agree, it isnt right,it isnt fair, but life in general isnt always fair, it is far from fair, why would this be any different?

[J-Dogg]

again i ask YOU what makes YOU so much better ,what have you contributed,what have you done??you started this.come on tough guy, step up to the plate, what have you sacrificed? unless you yourself are overseas fighting, than you realy have nothing to say here pal

I can’t understand why you assume from anything I typed that I believe I am better than you. I do feel I am more open minded, and less apt to put my foot in my mouth, but I don’t really need to explain this to anyone who logically reads the thread.

My entire purpose on this post was simply to open your mind. You seem to feel the USA is better than Sweeden, and asked about what they had done. From your previous post (which you stand behind) you seem very pleased with the accomplishments of your country. I was simply wondering if you were someone who was actually involved with the accomplishments of the USA or just someone along for the ride.

I do enjoy the 5th grade taunt though of calling me “tough guy” and “step up to the plate”. Stick with it, easy way out of an actual semi intelligent argument.

[The OutLord]

i have no clue what this is supposed to mean

This words is extemly rare and speak the truth.

But You have a very exact point when you say the winner allways write the history book for thay own advantage and make the history on a comfortable way.

And that is what all humans children will gong to learn in school no matter what it is for a land!.

Everything is just corrupt policy and bettween that I dont understand where and when the policy give a damn about human rigth and it is no concern enymore.

What do we know about the radio/Televitons information,
what is it the camera dont show us?


so i say agen!!

Us/we Human have create from the begining a norm and from that invention.
from that Invention is what we all call Human Rigths to day and it is also a Norm from our creation that we of "somthing" are , and is expekting somthing from it!!


maby this help me.. I am ver bad on englich

[Doc.Sust]

My entire purpose on this post was simply to open your mind. I was simply wondering if you were someone who was actually involved with the accomplishments of the USA or just someone along for the ride.

I do enjoy the 5th grade taunt though of calling me “tough guy” and “step up to the plate”. Stick with it, easy way out of an actual semi intelligent argument.

i also am still simply wondering if you are someone who is actualy invloved in the accomplishments of the USA.(as you aske me and i answered)yet again, you have no answer to my question. fair enough, you silence speaks much louder than words.

P.S. thank you SOOOO much for opening my mind with your your clever ruse and jedi mind tricks, you surely are a master of your domain

[Doc.Sust]

This words is extemly rare and speak the truth.

But You have a very exact point when you say the winner allways write the history book for thay own advantage and make the history on a comfortable way.

And that is what all humans children will gong to learn in school no matter what it is for a land!.

Everything is just corrupt policy and bettween that I dont understand where and when the policy give a damn about human rigth and it is no concern enymore.

What do we know about the radio/Televitons information,
what is it the camera dont show us?


so i say agen!!

Us/we Human have create from the begining a norm and from that invention.
from that Invention is what we all call Human Rigths to day and it is also a Norm from our creation that we of "somthing" are , and is expekting somthing from it!!


maby this help me.. I am ver bad on englich

i didnt say anything about the winner writing the history book,but i do see your point, and understand your gripes, but you want is a utopia like society, and right nowm inb the day and agem it isnt going to happen, we dont live in a perfect world, and not all countries are ready to bow down to the idea of human rights first. it would be amazing if possible, but i dont see this happening in my lifetime, but we can always try to make changes for the future

[king6]

Let us win your hearts and minds........Or we'll burn your huts down.

Semper Fi

[The OutLord]

human right have been being viloated since the begining of time, this is nothing new nor will it change anytime soon.society is still for the most part barbaric at best in a majority of many countries.
the USA didnt start this, not iraq,japan or russia. it has been happening since the time humans started to record history and no amount of bickering and pointing out the obvious will make a change.
i agree, it isnt right,it isnt fair, but life in general isnt always fair, it is far from fair, why would this be any different?

I agree , It will not make eny diffrents.. it`s crazy..

Precidents , diktators , goverments.. people in power (EU Kofi Atta Annan.)
Agree thay have a nice smile..
And their mouth just go and go and go and taking and taking how rigth it is to live up to human rithgs and how importent it is when pople share and in the same time civil war is in Afrka and the people in power just smille more and nothings happends and after that thay must have a conference.

I dont understand the words.
when the words is coming from their mouth`s when thay are taking about the human rigths.

I dont like when people in power play gods!!
I feels/think and asking my self some time -:Are thay Schizofren.
people in power have rose`s in ther left hand and a gun in the other rigth hand!!.

[king6]

i didnt say anything about the winner writing the history book,but i do see your point, and understand your gripes, but you want is a utopia like society, and right nowm inb the day and agem it isnt going to happen, we dont live in a perfect world, and not all countries are ready to bow down to the idea of human rights first. it would be amazing if possible, but i dont see this happening in my lifetime, but we can always try to make changes for the future

Yeah no utopia in the future.
A man tried to create a utopia about 80 years ago, he even wrote his plan for doing so. His name was Karl Marx, and his book was the Communist Manifesto.

[Doc.Sust]

I do enjoy the 5th grade taunt though of calling me “tough guy” and “step up to the plate”. Stick with it, easy way out of an actual semi intelligent argument.

still here waiting for your semi inteligent answer. as you see, i didnt take an easy way out of any argument

[king6]

people in power have rose`s in ther left hand and a gun in the other rigth hand!!.

No country has ever survived by being a pushover.

[Doc.Sust]

Yeah no utopia in the future.
A man tried to create a utopia about 80 years ago, he even wrote his plan for doing so. His name was Karl Marx, and his book was the Communist Manifesto.

we all know how well that worked out!LOL!

[Doc.Sust]

No country has ever survived by being a pushover.

well said!!!

[The OutLord]

i didnt say anything about the winner writing the history book,but i do see your point, and understand your gripes, but you want is a utopia like society, and right nowm inb the day and agem it isnt going to happen, we dont live in a perfect world, and not all countries are ready to bow down to the idea of human rights first. it would be amazing if possible, but i dont see this happening in my lifetime, but we can always try to make changes for the future

ok my falt.


no I dont belive in a perfekt world.

I just dont understand the words about human rigths when people in poer speek about it.. thay dont give a damn about it enyway!!!.

[J-Dogg]

I officially declare myself ineligible for the Special Olympics as a coach.

I never planned on attacking you, some how I was lured into it. I never flaunted the accomplishments I or my country have made which is why I never found it necessary to post my political accomplishments.

[The OutLord]

No country has ever survived by being a pushover.

true

[king6]

ok my falt.


no I dont belive in a perfekt world.

I just dont understand the words about human rigths when people in poer speek about it.. thay dont give a damn about it enyway!!!.

Only the violent dictators don't care about human rights.

[Doc.Sust]

ok my falt.


no I dont belive in a perfekt world.

I just dont understand the words about human rigths when people in poer speek about it.. thay dont give a damn about it enyway!!!.

you are correct, and for the most part of history, most leaders,dictators. presidents, and prime ministers all speak of human rights and yet there actions controdict their words

[king6]

It's so nice to have an intelligent discussion for once, and not one about tits and ass, and who's girlfriend just dumped them.

[Doc.Sust]

I officially declare myself ineligible for the Special Olympics as a coach.

I never planned on attacking you, some how I was lured into it. I never flaunted the accomplishments I or my country have made which is why I never found it necessary to post my political accomplishments.

boy that is a real,REAL weak answer!

but on the bright side,about your first statement, i do declare you may be able to be a participant instead of a coach congratulations!

[Doc.Sust]

It's so nice to have an intelligent discussion for once, and not one about tits and ass, and who's girlfriend just dumped them.

dont worry, it wont last.

[Tesla]

I try to understand this word the politc stands for..Human rigths here and human rigths ther , but thay do a nother thing instead.
when is it ok to kill civilian??
when is it ok to kill enyway 500mil from home!!

what is it thay whant to say when thay say thay belive in human rigths when
some one kill & go for a war?.


Us/we Human have create from the begining a norm and from that invention.
from that Invention is what we all call Human Rigths to day and it is also a Norm from our creation that we of "somthing" are , and is expekting somthing from it!!


I dont car if we takinga bout japan , sweden or russia ora a war that not have come yet.

I don't understand the point of this thread. Are you suggesting we all smoke peace pipes and let butchers like Saddam continue to torture, rape, and kill his own people? Is that your idea of human rights?

[J-Dogg]

It's so nice to have an intelligent discussion for once, and not one about tits and ass, and who's girlfriend just dumped them.

I agree,

The depth behind the topic is going to generate a lot of different views and lead to some disgruntle arguments but in the end no harm done.

While being raised in the US some times I feel I don’t belong because I am so against capital punishment. I just cannot understand how a government can be given the okay to kill someone, even if they are evil.

[The OutLord]

Yeah no utopia in the future.
A man tried to create a utopia about 80 years ago, he even wrote his plan for doing so. His name was Karl Marx, and his book was the Communist Manifesto.

we all know how well that worked out!LOL!

I agree totaly..

[Doc.Sust]

I don't understand the point of this thread. Are you suggesting we all smoke peace pipes and let butchers like Saddam continue to torture, rape, and kill his own people? Is that your idea of human rights?

i think he is saying it is a 'catch 22" to kill someone like saddam.the fact of how he trampled humans rights time and time again and his final punishment was death,which is another example of a breach of human rights. i think he is saying the crime is just as bad as the punishment(not that i agree, but this is what i have taken from what he has wrote)

[The OutLord]

It's so nice to have an intelligent discussion for once, and not one about tits and ass, and who's girlfriend just dumped them.

very funny


True... I is only empty words..
and after that a man/girl go for a new girl/man and after that it`s the same circus agen!!!

[king6]

I agree,

The depth behind the topic is going to generate a lot of different views and lead to some disgruntle arguments but in the end no harm done.

While being raised in the US some times I feel I don’t belong because I am so against capital punishment. I just cannot understand how a government can be given the okay to kill someone, even if they are evil.

Because with Sadamm alive he is an inspiration to people like him. They think that while he is alive, even if he is locked up, there is still hope that he will resume his regime. Also it was the atrocity of his crimes. He use a VX nerve agent in 1988 against Kurds, killing over 5,000 of them. I will tell you as someone who has been trained in biological and chemical weapons that VX is a horrible way to die, it ranks up there with burning to death. It was his torture techniques and his disregard for human life that got him at the end of a rope.

[Doc.Sust]

I agree,

The depth behind the topic is going to generate a lot of different views and lead to some disgruntle arguments but in the end no harm done.

agreed.let us agree to disagree on are former argument, and i wont make this a personal attack like i did before(that was my mistake) and move fwd. the different views do generate alot of heat and arguments, that is the base of politics!

[The OutLord]

I don't understand the point of this thread. Are you suggesting we all smoke peace pipes and let butchers like Saddam continue to torture, rape, and kill his own people? Is that your idea of human rights?

no... I am not.

It`s not about that... i think you must read litel more in this tree and you will understand.

It`s so ... paradoxical when people in power are taking about human rigths but when thay kill in a deklaration of war it`s sudden not so important when civil die..!!

what is human rigth for them!!

I belive in some how people in power is so rich that thay forget their neighbours.
people stopp thinking.

I think people in power must have a very low pay of every month and when thay go away from the power thay will get the whole pay of in retroactive
with some milljion!!
Only then thay dont forget others and thay will be mor earth!!

with frendly greatnings.

[Ufa]

Did Saddam make Iraq or did Iraq make Saddam?

I PM'd the link so many of you requested.

Just shows how cruel we treat each other.

[Doc.Sust]

ufa, pm me that link please

[king6]

Did Saddam make Iraq or did Iraq make Saddam?

Hatred made Sadamm. Just like hatred made Hitler.

[Tesla]

no... I am not.

It`s not about that... i think you must read litel more in this tree and you will understand.

with frendly greatnings.

Oh, okay. I understand. I didn't read everything in depth. I just glanced over everything.

[Doc.Sust]

While being raised in the US some times I feel I don’t belong because I am so against capital punishment. I just cannot understand how a government can be given the okay to kill someone, even if they are evil.

actually, i think it is much worse punishment to let someone rought in jail forever than kill them.(chances are if it didnt cost more to keep them alive, they probably wouldnt kill as many peoiple as they do) death is the easy way out, you are actually doing them a favor.prison may be the closest thing to"hell on earth"(no biblical reference intended)

[J-Dogg]

agreed.let us agree to disagree on are former argument, and i wont make this a personal attack like i did before(that was my mistake) and move fwd. the different views do generate alot of heat and arguments, that is the base of politics!

Agreed, I made my best friend by getting in a fight with him the first day of 2nd grade. It's just how I operate

I'll PM you the link of the video

[Doc.Sust]

Agreed, I made my best friend by getting in a fight with him the first day of 2nd grade. It's just how I operate

I'll PM you the link of the video

i have a similar story to that myself, i understand ,thanks for the link

[The OutLord]

actually, i think it is much worse punishment to let someone rought in jail forever than kill them.(chances are if it didnt cost more to keep them alive, they probably wouldnt kill as many peoiple as they do) death is the easy way out, you are actually doing them a favor.prison may be the closest thing to"hell on earth"(no biblical reference intended)

yes and maby thay will know how it feels to pick up the soap in the shower

[J-Dogg]

I've been to jail for a period of time when I was younger, a good learning experience I cannot take back and would not if I could. I did not have the best up-bringing and had to learn the hard way.

It's not that bad really, the worse part for me was the process of going and inspirational people to me knowing I was going.

You hear many stories about prison and how bad it is. In truth most people there are in the same situation you are and can relate, it actually generates a strong bond among inmates.

[Ufa]

Sorry Doc. I just pm'd you.

[Doc.Sust]

Sorry Doc. I just pm'd you.

got it thanks

[Doc.Sust]

I've been to jail for a period of time when I was younger, a good learning experience I cannot take back and would not if I could. I did not have the best up-bringing and had to learn the hard way.

It's not that bad really, the worse part for me was the process of going and inspirational people to me knowing I was going.

You hear many stories about prison and how bad it is. In truth most people there are in the same situation you are and can relate, it actually generates a strong bond among inmates.

i had a similar experience for a short time, and the fact that you really have every human right take away from you is the worst feeling in the world and the fact that the people in charge can literaly get away with anything and you can do a damn thing about it. i dont think it is a place i would want to be forever, i would rather be dead.