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    a strange thread for sure. Why do so many people seem to be struggling with mavs intentions? he explained in his opening post exactly what the crack was here, his reasons for wanting to leave, his reasons for addressing these issues publicly. OK, i agree, he seems rather paranoid about being found out online when he has no pictures on here, but also, someone addressed this earlier, its not just that, he DOESNT like the fact that he is a member and regular user of a forum which now promotes porn. How hard is it to understand?

    Timmy's final thought:

    In an internet world of codes, HTML, email, anonyminity, debauchery, randomness, internet toughguys, photoshop, embellished facts, half truths and blatant lies, what does any of this matter? No offence to mavs, as I know many enjoy his posts and viewpoints, but he is just a bunch of letters on a screen, just like I am, and all of you guys are too. Yes, we feel like we know each other, and many have actually met up in real life due to this site, but if Mavs is gone tomorrow, this site wont be any different.

    I also find a porn section unnecessary, although someone did make some valid points about it being an 'adult lounge', which made me think of it alittle differently, and has more of a purpose in my head now.

    In any case, chill out, relax, hell, touch yourself for all i care (i know I will, yay for test!) and let mavs go, if he doesnt get banned, and then wiped from our AR world, he wont post anyway i wouldnt imagine, as he is not comfortable here any longer. Shame, but not the end of the world

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    I posted this in the other thread but i was hoping Mav's would see it

    I honestly feel bad for you.
    That you aren't aloud to enjoy a website you like to come to. because you religious friends may find out and judge you. I'm just saying really is that the kind of people you want to be around. I know you don't judge people. So why would you want to be surrounded by people who would judge you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I posted this in the other thread but i was hoping Mav's would see it

    I honestly feel bad for you.
    That you aren't aloud to enjoy a website you like to come to. because you religious friends may find out and judge you. I'm just saying really is that the kind of people you want to be around. I know you don't judge people. So why would you want to be surrounded by people who would judge you?
    I think you got it wrong here man. Its not about being judged. Its about his JOB. Why is it so hard to understand, his job may be in jeopardy being a member here now.

    It's like saying to a Cop who would be fired for using AAS. Dont let people judge you man, just keep using AAS, screw your job.

    HE FEARS HE WILL LOSE HIS JOB BEING HERE. It has nothing to do with a moral dilemma or being judged.

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    OK Admin I will restore all of the posts. I am on my way out now so it will be doen later this evenign when I get home.

    Sorry Mavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    I think you got it wrong here man. Its not about being judged. Its about his JOB. Why is it so hard to understand, his job may be in jeopardy being a member here now.

    It's like saying to a Cop who would be fired for using AAS. Dont let people judge you man, just keep using AAS, screw your job.

    HE FEARS HE WILL LOSE HIS JOB BEING HERE. It has nothing to do with a moral dilemma or being judged.
    I understand. I'm not trying to cause an issue. But it really is being judged. AAS is illegal porn isn't. Its just against their morals or beliefs. So i would consider that judging.

    I understand its about is job and i wouldn't want him to loose it. Its just sad there could be a possibility of loosing a job because he is a member of an Internet site that in 1 section has porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    I think you got it wrong here man. Its not about being judged. Its about his JOB. Why is it so hard to understand, his job may be in jeopardy being a member here now.

    It's like saying to a Cop who would be fired for using AAS. Dont let people judge you man, just keep using AAS, screw your job.

    HE FEARS HE WILL LOSE HIS JOB BEING HERE. It has nothing to do with a moral dilemma or being judged.

    He makes like $100,000 a year as a tech rep or something for a big company He chooses to do the youth stuff It's a "moral" objection, nothing more, nothing less!!! ps the part about the well fare of my family, I find it messed up

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    Funny how when you hear all the facts that things seem different, huh?

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    I would still like to know how his church would feel about him being on a STEROID board even without porn??????

    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    Mavs, just out of curiosity, what would the church have said had they known you were on a steroid discussion board??

    even though you say you are Natural, do you think they would believe you?
    what other reason for being on a steroid board if you are not at least interested in steroids ??

    I understand you do not want to be linked to any porn, and again I respect that

    just wondering if it would have affected you the same way had your church known you were here even before the porn?

    and if they think that way of you, what would make them think you need to come here to see porn....if you have a computer you could be looking at porn anywhere....just saying if that is their mentality, they can accuse you of it anyway right?? Just like they could accuse you of using steroids...the burdon of proof would be yours either way

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    I even bought into the "I'm leaving" crap awhile back and even started a thread to voice support after the message threads were stopped, now I feel like a sucker! Every time he doesn't like something, he comes on here and threatens to leave Now it sounds like he will lose his only means of support all the while he makes a good check from his "real" job! Just telling the facts for anyone that wants to flame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    I even bought into the "I'm leaving" crap awhile back and even started a thread to voice support after the message threads were stopped, now I feel like a sucker! Every time he doesn't like something, he comes on here and threatens to leave Now it sounds like he will lose his only means of support all the while he makes a good check from his "real" job! Just telling the facts for anyone that wants to flame.
    Its scary when you are the rational one.

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    I respect your convictions, but I don't understand why you would need to be banned. It seems to me if you remove your pictures, then just stop posting, even if someone from your church happens to see the board (although I don't see why they would) and recognizes somehow who you are, you could simply state that you left this board because of the porn, and the dates would coincide.

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    sorry to see u go mavs, i understand wat ur saying exactly. u know what u need to do and thats all good.im with those that thinks the porn needs to go.that is one of the main reasons i chose this board in the first place, it was cleaner and u didnt have to be wary of pornographic avys. i spend most of my time on here in my family rm with my family around and even before the changes i felt uncomfortable with some of the avys, now they r just getting worse. if it continues to dergrade i'll probably have to cut it off as well as my kids r always poppin in and out and around and its kinda hard to explain why they cant look at the screen cause its got a half naked woman on there. now most of u dont see a problem with it but i do and thats my perogative to find it inappropriate just as its yours to be ok with it. anyway i hope admin see's all the resistance to the porn and kills it, this board has not been improved by the addition of it, in fact respected members r very against and 1 is leaving.anyway no one would cry if i left or quit posting but maybee if enough people protest something will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    sorry to see u go mavs, i understand wat ur saying exactly. u know what u need to do and thats all good.im with those that thinks the porn needs to go.that is one of the main reasons i chose this board in the first place, it was cleaner and u didnt have to be wary of pornographic avys. i spend most of my time on here in my family rm with my family around and even before the changes i felt uncomfortable with some of the avys, now they r just getting worse. if it continues to dergrade i'll probably have to cut it off as well as my kids r always poppin in and out and around and its kinda hard to explain why they cant look at the screen cause its got a half naked woman on there. now most of u dont see a problem with it but i do and thats my perogative to find it inappropriate just as its yours to be ok with it. anyway i hope admin see's all the resistance to the porn and kills it, this board has not been improved by the addition of it, in fact respected members r very against and 1 is leaving.anyway no one would cry if i left or quit posting but maybee if enough people protest something will happen.
    Nothing against you. But the other point is the board is made for 18 and over. There is no nudity in avatars and the porn is a separate section. If you dont go into that section the board is un cahnged. Why should a lot of good respect members not be aloud to have something they want because of your kids. ( I don't mean it against you personally just the other views side)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    Its scary when you are the rational one.

    I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    Be very, very quiet, I'm hunting titties

    pwsss pwss pwsss , here kitty kitty kitty. Come into this closet .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    Nothing against you. But the other point is the board is made for 18 and over. There is no nudity in avatars and the porn is a separate section. If you dont go into that section the board is un cahnged. Why should a lot of good respect members not be aloud to have something they want because of your kids. ( I don't mean it against you personally just the other views side)
    u r correct in this this, it is for 18 and over for the reason of the AAS as it is a steroid based site. im not going to lock myself in a closet so i can be on this site and for the most part its not necesary but the avys have gotten worse(deff not as bad as on other boards) but still a little too much for my kids.i come on this site to learn about safe AAS usage and diet and training and for worthless chat at times because i enjoy interacting with many of the people on this site. point of this site is responsible AAS usage, not porn, that is my point. this board is going to go the direction the owners/mods want it to go, im just posting up my viewpoint is all, and im sure im not alone in my concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    u r correct in this this, it is for 18 and over for the reason of the AAS as it is a steroid based site. im not going to lock myself in a closet so i can be on this site and for the most part its not necesary but the avys have gotten worse(deff not as bad as on other boards) but still a little too much for my kids.i come on this site to learn about safe AAS usage and diet and training and for worthless chat at times because i enjoy interacting with many of the people on this site. point of this site is responsible AAS usage, not porn, that is my point. this board is going to go the direction the owners/mods want it to go, im just posting up my viewpoint is all, and im sure im not alone in my concerns.
    The board is not responsible for your kids, YOU ARE. If you are viewing this site with your kids around then your a negligent parent.
    Last edited by DSM4Life; 07-26-2007 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    u r correct in this this, it is for 18 and over for the reason of the AAS as it is a steroid based site. im not going to lock myself in a closet so i can be on this site and for the most part its not necesary but the avys have gotten worse(deff not as bad as on other boards) but still a little too much for my kids.i come on this site to learn about safe AAS usage and diet and training and for worthless chat at times because i enjoy interacting with many of the people on this site. point of this site is responsible AAS usage, not porn, that is my point. this board is going to go the direction the owners/mods want it to go, im just posting up my viewpoint is all, and im sure im not alone in my concerns.

    So where do you hide your needles

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodcents
    So where do you hide your needles
    You think he is regretting that post yet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    The board is not responsible for your kids, YOU ARE. If you are viewing this site with your kids around then your a negligent father.

    You beat me to it That post he made just kind of opened himself up

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    let me clarify something, im basically ok with this board except the adult section(yea i know i dont go in there so why should i care) and i wish they were a little more strict with the avys.i guess my concern is they've made changes for the worse IMO, i just hope it doesnt continue getting worse because it will alienate members like myself, JMO. i love this board im just not happy with the changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    The board is not responsible for your kids, YOU ARE. If you are viewing this site with your kids around then your a negligent parent.
    please dont lecture me on my children, im very care full what i expose them to, i think porn is degragating to all involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    sorry to see u go mavs, i understand wat ur saying exactly. u know what u need to do and thats all good.im with those that thinks the porn needs to go.that is one of the main reasons i chose this board in the first place, it was cleaner and u didnt have to be wary of pornographic avys. i spend most of my time on here in my family rm with my family around and even before the changes i felt uncomfortable with some of the avys, now they r just getting worse. if it continues to dergrade i'll probably have to cut it off as well as my kids r always poppin in and out and around and its kinda hard to explain why they cant look at the screen cause its got a half naked woman on there. now most of u dont see a problem with it but i do and thats my perogative to find it inappropriate just as its yours to be ok with it. anyway i hope admin see's all the resistance to the porn and kills it, this board has not been improved by the addition of it, in fact respected members r very against and 1 is leaving.anyway no one would cry if i left or quit posting but maybee if enough people protest something will happen.
    so the big banner of "LOOKING FOR STEROIDS ".. or "THE ROID STORE" are acceptable to view in your family room in front of your kids?!? Id rather get caught looking at a thong pic in someones avatar than be caught on a page that says "LOOKING FOR STEROIDS? CLICK HERE"

    testosterone and porn go hand-in-hand.. Its also located in its own section in this forum with clear warnings of whats inside. The adult section is here to stay so everyone grow up and get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    You think he is regretting that post yet ?
    no im not regretting it, im entitled to my opinion as u r to urs.if i cant be on this site in the open around my family i wont be on it period, if u cant understand that im sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    please dont lecture me on my children, im very care full what i expose them to, i think porn is degragating to all involved.
    You brought it up, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    no im not regretting it, im entitled to my opinion as u r to urs.if i cant be on this site in the open around my family i wont be on it period, if u cant understand that im sorry.
    As a father even if this site didnt have porn i wouldn't view it with my children around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    so the big banner of "LOOKING FOR STEROIDS ".. or "THE ROID STORE" are acceptable to view in your family room in front of your kids?!? Id rather get caught looking at a thong pic in someones avatar than be caught on a page that says "LOOKING FOR STEROIDS? CLICK HERE"

    testosterone and porn go hand-in-hand.. Its also located in its own section in this forum with clear warnings of whats inside. The adult section is here to stay so everyone grow up and get over it.
    thats ur view, mine is different. if my kids could read it would be different and i will be more discrete at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    As a father even if this site didnt have porn i wouldn't view it with my children around.
    why, my kids cant read yet and when they r able i wont be on here as much thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    so the big banner of "LOOKING FOR STEROIDS ".. or "THE ROID STORE" are acceptable to view in your family room in front of your kids?!? Id rather get caught looking at a thong pic in someones avatar than be caught on a page that says "LOOKING FOR STEROIDS? CLICK HERE"

    testosterone and porn go hand-in-hand.. Its also located in its own section in this forum with clear warnings of whats inside. The adult section is here to stay so everyone grow up and get over it.
    HAHAHA your post made me laugh so hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    why, my kids cant read yet and when they r able i wont be on here as much thats for sure.
    So then you admit that even without the porn this site is still not suitable for your children to be around which in turn contradicts your previous statement.

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    Sup, you left me all alone here to defend the porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    So then you admit that even without the porn this site is still not suitable for your children to be around which in turn contradicts your previous statement.
    it not appropriate if they understood it that is correct, but if u cant see the difference between a child that can read and is aware of the "written content" and a child who isnt able to read then i wont be able to explain it to u, its just common sense bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    So then you admit that even without the porn this site is still not suitable for your children to be around which in turn contradicts your previous statement.
    Not really. Porn is visual. This is reading, and if a child would read this, he wouldn't understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    it not appropriate if they understood it that is correct, but if u cant see the difference between a child that can read and is aware of the "written content" and a child who isnt able to read then i wont be able to explain it to u, its just common sense bro
    You keep digging the hole. Your statements reflect what kind of person you are. Nothing more needs to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    it not appropriate if they understood it that is correct, but if u cant see the difference between a child that can read and is aware of the "written content" and a child who isnt able to read then i wont be able to explain it to u, its just common sense bro
    I see exactly where you are coming from, I am sometimes on the site when my 2 year old is in the room, if the older kids walk in I drop it to the bottom before they get to where they can see the screen.

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    The porn is just asking for trouble. Your going to get a bunch on new members who post links to pics, you click on the link, and BAM! virus. It has happened here before. The only difference is, before porn was not allowed, so if someone posted a link to cum guzzling gutter sluts, the thread would have been deleted, but not before the linked virus claimed one or two victims.

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    dsm why does a person with more traditional values bother u so much?ive never come out against u and ur beliefs why do u feel the need to beat down everybody who doesnt see it ur way?ive posted my opinions now ur trying to tear it apart and find fault in it, going so far as to say im not a responsible parent, wat the eff is that, and wat the eff do u know?why u got to get personal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    You keep digging the hole. Your statements reflect what kind of person you are. Nothing more needs to be said.
    What kind of person is that? A concerned parent? I fail to see what is being implied.

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