ALL READ THIS! Bush administration!!!

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Here is some food for thought guys, it does skirt around the AIDS problem, but at the end of the day who are steroids and hGH produced for.

One of the initiatives that the Bushies signed in to was an agreemend with the United nations to support the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, TB and Malaria,
set up bt the UN Secretary General Kofi Annan in 2001. The fund needs were estimated at $10-15 billion per year. Bush's 2004 budget froze U.S. funding at $200 million.

Bush's new promise to provide generic AIDS drugs to poor countries conflicted directly with Bush trade policies aimed at protecting pharmaceutical companies from generic competition. The vast majority of the more than 22 million deaths from AIDS so far had occured in poor countries, where drug companies had long refused to lower the prices of AIDS drugs and opposed importation of generics, and where treatment therefore remained largely unaffordable. Only two months before Bush announced his plan, the administrationurged the World Trade Organization (WTO) to ban exports of generics. Drug companies holding AIDS drug patients were among the GOP's biggest contirbutors.

In Brazil, govornment-supported labs had become leading manufacturers of generic AIDS drugs, free distribution of which had cut annual deaths from AIDS in Brazil in half. Worse (from the U.S. drugs industry point of view) than just producing its own drugs, Brazil offered assistance to the other countries seeking to set up similar programs. So, in Bush's second montho in office, the U.S. filed a complaint with the WTO alleging Brazil was violationg the WTO's Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property (TRIPS) Agreement. A,month later, thirty nine major pharmaceutical companies, with strong U.S. backing, sued the south african govornment under TRIPS for permitting the manufacture and importation of generic AIDS drugs. The U.S. threatened trade sanctions against other poor countries that imported generics.

[Renesis]

Wow... I hate this country.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Pretty obvious what is going on though dont you think. Looks like they have gone after the big boys before. Now its just China that is left. I would like to see the US sue their govornment... that was a joke.

[Atomini]

Saw this on the news this morning.

What a bunch of bullshit.

America is a land of contradiction.

[Renesis]

I wonder why people hate us so much and want to blow us the fvck up... Oh wait I know why cuz our gov't pulls shit like this!

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Saw this on the news this morning.

What a bunch of bullshit.

America is a land of contradiction.

That is so freaking weird!!!!! i found it in a book belonging to my missus from when she did her Masters in security studies

[number twelve]

this shit is rediculous...i hate all this two faced alternate motive b.s.

[Atomini]

Who else here thinks this is ALL because of the Bush administration?

This all seems to have become like this after he got into power.

[Renesis]

Yup yup. Can't wait till he GTFO out of the president seat.

[RuhlFreak55]

Wow... I hate this country.

so do i...maybe it's finally time the citizens started doing something about it?

[Atomini]

Yup yup. Can't wait till he GTFO out of the president seat.

Vote Ron Paul. lol.

The ONLY reason i'd want to be an American right now is if I could vote for him.

In the meantime, i'll continue to juice safely up here in Canada.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

the bush administration does seem to have an awful lot to answer to.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

While their disdain for Americans' civil liberties and privacy rights was evident before 9/11, the war on terror provided the Bushies with a pretext for extrordinary expansions of presidential and law enforcment power as well as extraordinary intrusions up democratic rights of Americans, which alarmed liberals and conservatives alike. The weeks following 9/11 saw the hurried enactment of probably the most sweeping of expansion of presidential power ever, the USA PATRIOT ACT "anti-terrorism" bill, along with a series of far reaching curtailments of Americans' freedoms and privacy proclaimed simply by presidential decree. Thease measures attacked the right to a fair and open trail, teh presumption of innocence, lawyer-client confidentiality, and constitutional protections against unreasonable searches and survaillence, secret arrest and detention, seizure of property, summary loss of citizenship, and deportation. Definitions of "terrorism" were expanded to cover almost every conceivable crime, exposing even minor offenders and nonviolent political activists to severe punishments.

The Bushies' appropriations of new powers continued "under the radar" for the next year and a half, as they prepared a second and even more draconian legislative package dubbed "PATRIOT ACT II," which critics termed a "quantum leap" in executive branch power. Meanwhile, the pentagon and homeland security deparments set up computer systems of unprecedented size and power to collect information on Americans' private activities. As for the courts, in March 2003, Supreme court justice Antonin Scalia said matter-of-factly that Americans could expect that "protections [of their rights] will be ratcheted down to the constitutional minimum". That proved a gross understatment.

Under the Patriot Act, rules and proceedures that had been created for the gathering of foreign intelligence, and were exempt from key constitutional restrictions on unreasonable searches, could be used widley in ordinary, domestic criminal investigations of Americans. The FBI could secratly search citizens' homes, offices, or records, or conduct electronic surveillance of phone and internet use, without providing probable cause (i.e the likley hood of criminal activity or intent) as the Fourth ammendment explicitly required, by obtaining a warrant from the secretive FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVILLENCE COURT.

[RuhlFreak55]

yep seeee...we're ****ed

[Odpierdol_sie!]

I got so much more on this subject it may take a bit of time to tell you all, but ill keep cracking at it.
It would'nt surpise me that many Americas are not aware of these amendments.

[RuhlFreak55]

i've known of some of them.....the question is what can we really do in this day and age? we'd need some sort of mobilizing source....something that gets everyone so to the edge of sanity about this that they'll actually take action

[wantmoremass]

The administration is protecting American pharma business, plain and simple. It's too bad that the only way to get elected is to have the support of big business, which then needs to be pandered to in order to get elected again. Something like AIDS, to me, should go beyond business and politics - how their consciences will allow the halt of production of life-saving medication for the sake of a buck is beyond me. I guess as long as it doesn't hit home and you keep getting elected, the rules are for the rich and powerful.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

As a result of abuses in teh 1970's, when the CIA engaged in widspread spying on political dissdents and other American, the lead role in gathering foreign intelligence within the U.S was supposedly given to the justice department. The Patriot Act put the CIA back in charge and permitted domestic law enforcment to share information gathering in criminal investigations, including wire taps and internet captures, with the CIA, which could in turn share information with other agancies, including foregn governments

The PA vastly expanded teh goverments access to citizens' banking, credit card, medical, internet, airline, hotel, bookstore purchase and libary loan records---indeed, any records---held by third paries
Under loosened FISA rules, the government no longer had to show evidence that the subject of such a search was an "agent of foreign power". They didnt even have to show that the records were related to criminal activity, much less meet teh 4th ammendment requirment to probably cause. Now, the feds merely had to ay the request was related to a terrorism or foreign intelligence investigation.
judges had no authority to refuse the issue of such a warrant rendering judicial oversight virtually non-existent.
Surveillance could result from books that individuals read, web sites visited, or letters or articles they may read or have written - a violation of the First Amendment (free speech rights).
A third party forced to turn over records was prohibitated from disclosing the search to anyone (a free speech violation), including the surveillance subject. who would never find out his pr her personal records has been examined by the government, and who therefore lost the ability to challenge illegitimate searches (a fourth amendment violation)

[Mr Tick]

Arnold should run for prez. Well i mean if he could. If he was to get into office he would reverse the crackdown on steroids I know it!! Shit he might even make them legal.

[Atomini]

http://www.infowars.com/

EDIT: No, FFRob, I wouldn't want Arnold as president. That guy took the biggest 180 ever. Back in his prime during the 60s and 70s, he was such a rebellious hippy liberal-minded back then. Now he is a neo-conservative protecting family values and social morals (not that those two things are a bad thing), and has gone completely anti steroid .

[BigLittleTim]

You weren't concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties until they came for your steroids ?



Hooray us!

[Atomini]

You weren't concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties until they came for your steroids ?



Hooray us!

Well isn't that the way it always happens?? Nobody gives a shit as they one by one systematically restrict your freedoms until they next come for what YOU care about most.

Recall this little story/poem?

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

never a truer word spoken

[Carlos_E]

You weren't concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties until they came for your steroids ?



Hooray us!