A lot more than usual noobs

[shifty_git]

Have noticed there have been a lot more threads created by 16-19 year olds on here recently in the main forum and something someone else said to one of these guys has made me think....

the quote was...

Originally Posted by Amorphic
i dont, im tired of people looking for the easy solution, there needs to be more respect for natural training among noobs these days

my reply was...

"agreed.

aas are not magic beans.. seems the media's effort of trying to make ass an evil substance has in a way back fired, and infact brought them into the limelight. so more average lads see them as bad (in a cool street sense) cause there an easy illigal option, and lads love being 'badboys'

after all, when they show steroids on tv, they always show huge guys... n what guy doesnt wanna look huge, ripped and attractive / something special...

and its the medias image that guys on steroid pick up a peice of paper and they have muscles like arnie, just cause there on steroids.
but they never put across the hard work put in at the gym, the conviction of eating the correct diet constantly, and the will to better ones self....

I blame the media for the poor effort to get ratings by unfounded shock stories that have actually glorified steroids..."


anyone else agree with this?

[qualityclrk1]

yes i agree...ass is nothing close to an evil substance....i love it

[Juicy J]

think of it like icing a cake. u put a lot of hard work into the cake already(diet,training,etc)But a little icing will make it a little better

[dupa95]

As i wrote earler I lovetraining with or with out.

[Lexed]

as long as they get educated before they start its fine by me

[Ajc330]

i feel it is the easy road to a great body.. i know two (2) ppl my age who have used aas (18 yrs old) and the one kid ate like shlt which included never eating protein besides muscle milk and always eating junk fast food and cookies and shit for meals, and he was huge and fvckin lean too
i honestly feel it gets you huge without dieting all day every day

i know i am going to get stoned for posting this but remember i am just posting this based on my personal knowledge and experience w/ aas users

[Amorphic]

i feel it is the easy road to a great body.. i know two (2) ppl my age who have used aas (18 yrs old) and the one kid ate like shlt which included never eating protein besides muscle milk and always eating junk fast food and cookies and shit for meals, and he was huge and fvckin lean too
i honestly feel it gets you huge without dieting all day every day

i know i am going to get stoned for posting this but remember i am just posting this based on my personal knowledge and experience w/ aas users

that of course could be due to genetics. I find a lot of younger guys obviously have better builds, however of course this it not the case with everyone. I can eat pretty crappy and stay lean but i try to focus on diet as being of critical importance.

I still do think not enough people respect natural training like i said before.

[facile]

Have noticed there have been a lot more threads created by 16-19 year olds on here recently in the main forum and something someone else said to one of these guys has made me think....

the quote was...


my reply was...

"agreed.

aas are not magic beans.. seems the media's effort of trying to make ass an evil substance has in a way back fired, and infact brought them into the limelight. so more average lads see them as bad (in a cool street sense) cause there an easy illigal option, and lads love being 'badboys'

after all, when they show steroids on tv, they always show huge guys... n what guy doesnt wanna look huge, ripped and attractive / something special...

and its the medias image that guys on steroid pick up a peice of paper and they have muscles like arnie, just cause there on steroids.
but they never put across the hard work put in at the gym, the conviction of eating the correct diet constantly, and the will to better ones self....

I blame the media for the poor effort to get ratings by unfounded shock stories that have actually glorified steroids..."


anyone else agree with this?

I agree, all the negative attention has created a whole generation that believe AAS are an easy solution to laziness, it is not magic, training is all about sacrifice and hard work. Of course occasionally an 18 yr old gets great results eating like shit barely training and taking D-bol, but as Amorphic says he probably had great genetics and could have achieved that state with some hard work naturally.

Our society is always looking for short cuts, look at all the diet pill infomercials, they sell snake oil and make millions, because people want the easy road.

I never knew of AAS at 18, now every kid knows about them and a good majority will blindly take anything they can get their hands on, regardless if it the right thing to do or potentially dangerous to them.

[J*U*icEd]

there are way too many here... when i started here it was like a sub-culture or a cult, now this shit is soo main stream... i remember there would only be like 300 people at most viewing the main thread now there is constantly 900 or more....

[Amorphic]

there are way too many here... when i started here it was like a sub-culture or a cult, now this shit is soo main stream... i remember there would only be like 300 people at most viewing the main thread now there is constantly 900 or more....

its only going to get worse. Even in the relatively short time ive been here ive noticed a huge increase in the amount of new members, and a proportionately large decrease in peoples ability to use the search button or do some research themselves

[J*U*icEd]

its only going to get worse. Even in the relatively short time ive been here ive noticed a huge increase in the amount of new members, and a proportionately large decrease in peoples ability to use the search button or do some research themselves

lol... to become a member here you should be required to read the stickys and informationals and have to pass a test... this crap is getting outta hand... there hasnt been an intelligent debate or topic on here since i got involved in the sustanon "injection frequency" thread... and ohh yeah merc.'s posts are also intelligently written and very very informational....

[Amorphic]

lol... to become a member here you should be required to read the stickys and informationals and have to pass a test... this crap is getting outta hand... there hasnt been an intelligent debate or topic on here since i got involved in the sustanon "injection frequency" thread... and ohh yeah merc.'s posts are also intelligently written and very very informational....

the problem in this is that these noobs and new members make money for the board and sponsors, so from a business perspective it is going great for the people that profit financially here. For the rest of us that actually care about the board and have gotten to know a lot of the members, it can just get annoying.

[IamtheChitt]

I love ass!

[Amorphic]

I love ass!

case in point.

[J*U*icEd]

case in point.

lol... yea i guess i forgot about the business perspective of it all... it's definatly more profitable to get as many members on here as possible... but what made me think that was the fact that back when i joined here there wasn't a board sponser and there was nothin for sale here... so yea from a business standpoint i see how it all works...

[Amorphic]

I wish i would have joined earlier to have seen the board the way it was back in the day

[J*U*icEd]

I wish i would have joined earlier to have seen the board the way it was back in the day

yea it was definatly alot calmer around here... and to be honest alot more educational threads were floating around... i guess b/c for about the first 2 years i was here it was all the same people and you knew all 300 members, they were all very educated on the subject and very knowlegdable in general... not to say u arent or that many of the other members arent but there were alot less idiots... also the board members were alot tighter... like i said it was kind of like a cult around here back then... but really i don't know if it's cause i know pretty much everything there is to know on this board or if its the retardly stupid questions that are asked on an hourly basis that keeps me from answering every one of them...

[Amorphic]

what we need is a senior member forum, where 'the group' can get together and discuss things beyond the typical noob questions. but then again that wouldnt be fair to 'hide' information or experiences from new members i suppose.

[J*U*icEd]

you know after a while it gets kind of redundant and boring answer the all famous "what should my first cycle be" thread...

[J*U*icEd]

what we need is a senior member forum, where 'the group' can get together and discuss things beyond the typical noob questions. but then again that wouldnt be fair to 'hide' information or experiences from new members i suppose.

i think that would be a great idea... but take away the noobs posting privilages and just let them read... that would be amazing!

[Amorphic]

you know after a while it gets kind of redundant and boring answer the all famous "what should my first cycle be" thread...

lol, ive gotten to the point where i'm recommending most of these noobs not even cycle at all. Most of them are eithe 1. too young. 2. completely uneducated. 3. havent been training for long at all. 4. dont know anything about diet. 5. are completely out of shape and want a quick fix.

[Amorphic]

i think that would be a great idea... but take away the noobs posting privilages and just let them read... that would be amazing!

maybe we should post it up in a new thread and see what everyone thinks

[J*U*icEd]

maybe we should post it up in a new thread and see what everyone thinks

ill talk it over with a couple of the older and senior members before i post something about it... i wana see what some of them have to say about it... good idea no?!

[Amorphic]

ill talk it over with a couple of the older and senior members before i post something about it... i wana see what some of them have to say about it... good idea no?!

roger that

[fitnessNY]

what we need is a senior member forum, where 'the group' can get together and discuss things beyond the typical noob questions. but then again that wouldnt be fair to 'hide' information or experiences from new members i suppose.

Maybe a senior membor section where only senior+ members can post, but everyone can read them?

edit: i didnt read the whole thread and just saw that juiced had the same idea first.

[Kratos]

Kids hear about all the pro athletes being busted for steroids and think that it's what they need to be a good athlete. When I was a kid and saw the rocket pitch in Boston the last thing on my mind was if he was on steroids or not. Kid logic and steroids and idols in the media is not a good thing. These things need to be handled like breaking wind in class, keep it quiet but get it done.

[J*U*icEd]

Maybe a senior membor section where only senior+ members can post, but everyone can read them?

edit: i didnt read the whole thread and just saw that juiced had the same idea first.

yes sir, thats the idea...

[qualityclrk1]

yes sir, thats the idea...

but then how many older guys would come back to the newb's regularly and answer their questions. I'd be afraid of more bad information being passed off to newbies such as myself.

[Z-Ro]

I agree with what you have said 100%.

Way too many people join that could care less about lifting naturally long term to make gains and use juice.

The biggest blame is the govt. and the media...I was at work and literally heard this quote:

"After seeing all this stuff on the news about steroids , it makes me want to use them and really see what all the hype is about them. Are they really that good? I don't know but I want to found out now, I am interested in it."

[Amorphic]

I agree with what you have said 100%.

Way too many people join that could care less about lifting naturally long term to make gains and use juice.

The biggest blame is the govt. and the media...I was at work and literally heard this quote:

"After seeing all this stuff on the news about steroids, it makes me want to use them and really see what all the hype is about them. Are they really that good? I don't know but I want to found out now, I am interested in it."

thats the exact attitude that makes my blood boil.

[goodcents]

They love newbies, they buy stuff (any stuff) in the hopes of getting bigger

[DSM4Life]

I wish i would have joined earlier to have seen the board the way it was back in the day

Join date 2007 ? To the back of the bus noob !

[Amorphic]

Join date 2007 ? To the back of the bus noob !

[goodcents]

You knew it was coming newbie

big sexy

[Amorphic]

You knew it was coming newbie

big sexy

haha, yeah i had it coming

[DSM4Life]

haha, yeah i had it coming

Aww you need a lap to cry on ? Come here twingle toes, ill protect you.

[Amorphic]

Aww you need a lap to cry on ? Come here twingle toes, ill protect you.

wrap me in your soothing embrace.....

[goodcents]

You grab one end and I'll take the other end

[Amorphic]

You grab one end and I'll take the other end

who says you're invited huh? huh?

[goodcents]

wrap me in your soothing embrace.....

I think the embrace will be a little rougher than you thought