Thinking of doing a part time degree, what do you guys think?

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-17-2008, 06:11 PM

Just wondering, im feeling like im going no where in life and it is basically down to being in a kinda dead end job.
I joined the Fire Brigade at 19 and stayed there ever since.

I dropped out of collage when i was 18 and knackered the chances of going to Uni to do a Degree in Architecture. After joinign the fireserivce and gettign my feet under the table i realised the mistake i had done and regretted it for so long.

So, im thinking of doing a part time BSc (Hons) in Arcitectural technology... any guys know anything about that industry, as i know pretty much nothing?
All comments will be valued.

**Oki-Des** · 02-17-2008, 07:35 PM

Although I would usually suggest for you to go to school. If you need money now or are considering going to school to get a job, you can get one without your degree. Many employers want the next interviewer to be the person who gets the job. Think about it; it is their job to find a new employee. The sooner they do the sooner they can get back to their lives. This is why they truly want you to be the right fit. You just have to make it through the interview without proving them wrong. If the next time you go into an interview you have the confidence to know you will get the job, you actually might. Just remember not to be nervous. I use to go to job interviews for jobs I never could get. I would interview for $200K jobs that asked incredibly difficult questions. But then when I would apply for a $50K job, closer to my actual ability the interviews were a breeze. Just as a woman wants a man with confidence so do employers. Go into every interview knowing you have something to offer. Many companies expect to have to train you for everything you will need to know, therefore do not worry about details. What an employer cares about is whether you are going to show up on time, look good, show respect and have the capacity to learn. They can and will teach you the rest. You can do what you want and do not be afraid to try. Each interview is an opportunity to learn even if you do not get that specific job. I am the CEO of a large medical device manufacturing company and know what employers are looking for. Build up your confidence, press your suit, put together a resume and start looking for local employment. Good Luck!

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-17-2008, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Oki-Des

Although I would usually suggest for you to go to school. If you need money now or are considering going to school to get a job, you can get one without your degree. Many employers want the next interviewer to be the person who gets the job. Think about it; it is their job to find a new employee. The sooner they do the sooner they can get back to their lives. This is why they truly want you to be the right fit. You just have to make it through the interview without proving them wrong. If the next time you go into an interview you have the confidence to know you will get the job, you actually might. Just remember not to be nervous. I use to go to job interviews for jobs I never could get. I would interview for $200K jobs that asked incredibly difficult questions. But then when I would apply for a $50K job, closer to my actual ability the interviews were a breeze. Just as a woman wants a man with confidence so do employers. Go into every interview knowing you have something to offer. Many companies expect to have to train you for everything you will need to know, therefore do not worry about details. What an employer cares about is whether you are going to show up on time, look good, show respect and have the capacity to learn. They can and will teach you the rest. You can do what you want and do not be afraid to try. Each interview is an opportunity to learn even if you do not get that specific job. I am the CEO of a large medical device manufacturing company and know what employers are looking for. Build up your confidence, press your suit, put together a resume and start looking for local employment. Good Luck!

Thanks for that, somethign i have never thought about to be honest! Its all too easy to get caught up in this "credentials" thing.
Im currenly doing a Cisco sert and although its just for omething to do, if i actually pass, ill take heed in what you just said, if i jack the FB and try a bit of IT.
The Architecture is more a thing i always wanted to do but dipped out when i actually had the chance. Now i have time to study while working i figured now is the time. just depends if i could actually last 5 years studying, but saying that ive done the last 8 years practically wsting time and listening to the same bollox over and over again from people i no longer respect (because i know deep down im better at my job than they are).

Thanks all the same like i said ill deffinately heed that advise!

**sphincter** · 02-19-2008, 05:32 PM

do what makes you happy and you will find success.

and Oki-des.. if that's supposed to be Japanese for "I'm big" you left of the 'u' on the end of "desu" thought it is usually not pronounced

**rockinred** · 02-19-2008, 07:35 PM

I noticed you have been posted that in the UK they are a lil bit smarter than US... you should just move over here and use some of that natural smarts to become a millionaire... no need to go to school...

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-20-2008, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by rockinred

I noticed you have been posted that in the UK they are a lil bit smarter than US... you should just move over here and use some of that natural smarts to become a millionaire... no need to go to school...

Hmmmm... now there is a thought, after all they do call it the land of opportunity

**Flagg** · 02-20-2008, 09:16 AM

How old are you now?

I got a mate doing a Full Time degree at Liverpool Uni in Architecture and it's SEVEN YEARS LONG. Dunno how long a part time one would take. Can you really not afford to go Full Time? Im 30 and only just going to Uni full time this year, kinda for the same reasons, felt like I hit a dead end, wasnt going nowhere with my job etc.

**kfrost06** · 02-22-2008, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by undermined

Pursue whatever makes you happy today, or you might regret that you did not in the future.

well put! Use your potential while you have it.

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-22-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

How old are you now?

I got a mate doing a Full Time degree at Liverpool Uni in Architecture and it's SEVEN YEARS LONG. Dunno how long a part time one would take. Can you really not afford to go Full Time? Im 30 and only just going to Uni full time this year, kinda for the same reasons, felt like I hit a dead end, wasnt going nowhere with my job etc.

Im 28 in July. yeah i was thinking of doing a BSc in Architecture
I have been thinking about doing a Foundation in that subject though as i would really have to get my ass in gear.
The part time BSc is 5 years as opposed to 3 years full time, with my work if i could get the time off for the day is need to be in uni i could easy do it in 5 years! taking that in to account, if i do the foundation first so i dont jump in feet first, ill be 34 when i finish. still gives me a good chance of getting fully qualified by 37-38.
Thats the goal, but money is tight, i cant really stop working and go to uni coz i got too many commitments.

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-22-2008, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by undermined

Pursue whatever makes you happy today, or you might regret that you did not in the future.

Good point, i know the feeling!

A bit off the cuff but if anyone reads "Fighters Only" my friend is an editor and was reading about why he took the chance and got in to MMA, because its something he felt strongly for and in his words was sick of the "McjJob" lifestyle.

What really made me think though was that he said he never stops working, its 24/7 for him. He added: "but i dont care that im working every hour god sends as its not a real job, its a passion i have. To anyone in the same position dont go to jobs for money go to them because its what you want to do, if you find a job that you really like, you never work another day in your life!".
Never a more a true word spoken i say.

**Flagg** · 02-22-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Odpierdol_sie!

Im 28 in July. yeah i was thinking of doing a BSc in Architecture
I have been thinking about doing a Foundation in that subject though as i would really have to get my ass in gear.
The part time BSc is 5 years as opposed to 3 years full time, with my work if i could get the time off for the day is need to be in uni i could easy do it in 5 years! taking that in to account, if i do the foundation first so i dont jump in feet first, ill be 34 when i finish. still gives me a good chance of getting fully qualified by 37-38.
Thats the goal, but money is tight, i cant really stop working and go to uni coz i got too many commitments.

Even though im at college now (doing an Access course) im still having to working 30 hours a week. Money will always be tight when you're a student im starting to think but you just have to remind yourself why you're putting yourself through that.

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-22-2008, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Even though im at college now (doing an Access course) im still having to working 30 hours a week. Money will always be tight when you're a student im starting to think but you just have to remind yourself why you're putting yourself through that.

Yeah totally, thing i have is i wouldnt earn the same amount of money as i would where i am now. im kind of stuck in a rutt if you get me. But the time off i get seems like a good way to get as much studying done as possible.

**Flagg** · 02-22-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Odpierdol_sie!

Yeah totally, thing i have is i wouldnt earn the same amount of money as i would where i am now. im kind of stuck in a rutt if you get me. But the time off i get seems like a good way to get as much studying done as possible.

Being stuck in the UK is in itself a giant rut, I heard architecture is very competitive in this country, don't know if that applies everywhere but I know I really would like to work elsewhere once I get my degree, thats providing I don't look into doing a Masters afterward.

**Mazzive_T** · 02-22-2008, 04:11 PM

id do it mate. Im on a foundation engineering and technology program at a uni in the uk at the moment but its full time (well, 2 1/2 days) not part time. I love every single minute of it. It is a challenge, but its so rewarding when you get things right and come out on top.

your never to late to do something you want to do. And you can teach an "old dog" new tricks.

my lecturers tell me the foundation year prepares you the best for the types of degrees you want to do after youve completed that year. and statistics say, 70% of the people that left my uni with 1sts, all came out of a foundation programme for that particular subject.

PM me if you want to chat about it, or more info on foundation programmes, also theres a bit on my training log about it i think.

All the best anyhow buddy. T.

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 02-22-2008, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Being stuck in the UK is in itself a giant rut, I heard architecture is very competitive in this country, don't know if that applies everywhere but I know I really would like to work elsewhere once I get my degree, thats providing I don't look into doing a Masters afterward.

Thing is once you do get your degree, doors will open for you.
What are you doing?

**Flagg** · 02-22-2008, 06:58 PM

Environmental Science. It's quite an open course where the third year gives you a myriad of options like Marine Biology, Welfare Conservation or Earth Geology plus you get a "gap year" where you get the chance to do some work experience over-seas which would be very cool. When I was a kid I always wanted to be a dinosaur archaelogist, I was fascinated by dinosaurs and that period of Earth...with this degree I could do a Masters in Paelentology or Zoo Archaeology which would be pretty cool.

***Doc.Sust*** · 02-24-2008, 09:43 PM

do it.

**Bojangles69** · 02-24-2008, 10:21 PM

Yeh one thing I was told in life that if you ever have the thought to do something (and its legal) and then you have another thought of why you shouldn't do it, you should usually act on the first thought.
Like if you ever see a girl and have the thought "damn I'd like to talk to her" than you second guess yourself. Its not bringing you any closer to what you really want. And despite the end result at least you went for it. Theres never really any regret in that at least.