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    What the hell is this phone call?

    Didn't know where to post this...but today I got a phone call from a private number saying that my mail is under investigation. I have not ordered anything in a long time. They said ill be getting some paperwork shortly...they didn't say who they were or anything. I just listened...what the F?

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    Why didnt you ask who they were?

    Was it a recorded voice or a real person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Why didnt you ask who they were?

    Was it a recorded voice or a real person?
    A real person...a woman. Sounded like she didn't know much...just like reading from a paper or something. I told her i had no idea what she was talking about. She said she didn't know any details...just that the fed govt. is investaging recent packages....i told i havent orderd anything. what do you think?

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    u better give a homie like 20 bucks to use their adress .and cancell your Flex subscription

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    Sounds suspect to me...

    Normally either they bust ya, write to ya if ya had a package seized, or leave you alone.. not give you a warning for no reason...

    Would like to hear some more guys chime in on this.

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    Some practical joke perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrick View Post
    Didn't know where to post this...but today I got a phone call from a private number saying that my mail is under investigation. I have not ordered anything in a long time. They said ill be getting some paperwork shortly...they didn't say who they were or anything. I just listened...what the F?
    the feds, police, DEA dont call they knock

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39+1 View Post
    the feds, police, DEA dont call they knock
    Bingo!

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    could it be that a mailing list of your supplier got siezed??????

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    y would u give your supplier your real number! like someone said above they knock not a call to let you know to clean your place out!

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    feds dont really give to much of a warning.

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    sucks bro...but more than likely is a prank

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    its a prank, they don't call from a private numbers.

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    Definately a prank,,,,,,,they do not call about stuff like that.....they dont want to give the guy any forwarning......they will usually just come knock on the door....or in the case of my buddy, they kick the door down and arrest you......THEY WILL NOT CALL YOU!!!!

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    I work closely with lawyers on a daily basis and had the chance to converse with an prodominent lawyer (wont give names) who is known to defend for cases involving AAS etc for high profile bodybuilders/users etc. He informed me that the FEDs currently are in cooperation with much of Europe/China and that many companies are under a plea agreement in which they will operate as if nothing is wrong, but then hand over a list of those who purchased from the US to the FED's in order to get off a little lighter due to cooperation. He said that in the next couple of months there will be over 100,000 arrests (I am not exaggerating there).

    Now take this for what its worth. It did come from a lawyer and I am not trying to stir the pot and as of now its hearsay, but it was said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTliftVT View Post
    I work closely with lawyers on a daily basis and had the chance to converse with an prodominent lawyer (wont give names) who is known to defend for cases involving AAS etc for high profile bodybuilders/users etc. He informed me that the FEDs currently are in cooperation with much of Europe/China and that many companies are under a plea agreement in which they will operate as if nothing is wrong, but then hand over a list of those who purchased from the US to the FED's in order to get off a little lighter due to cooperation. He said that in the next couple of months there will be over 100,000 arrests (I am not exaggerating there).

    Now take this for what its worth. It did come from a lawyer and I am not trying to stir the pot and as of now its hearsay, but it was said.
    I can see how that would happen

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    Thats crazy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTliftVT View Post
    I work closely with lawyers on a daily basis and had the chance to converse with an prodominent lawyer (wont give names) who is known to defend for cases involving AAS etc for high profile bodybuilders/users etc. He informed me that the FEDs currently are in cooperation with much of Europe/China and that many companies are under a plea agreement in which they will operate as if nothing is wrong, but then hand over a list of those who purchased from the US to the FED's in order to get off a little lighter due to cooperation. He said that in the next couple of months there will be over 100,000 arrests (I am not exaggerating there).

    Now take this for what its worth. It did come from a lawyer and I am not trying to stir the pot and as of now its hearsay, but it was said.
    So you think there are already top guys working with FEDS that are still selling?
    I think it'd be pretty difficult to arrest 100,000 end users if they are aware and clean house and new PC's and stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJuicer View Post
    So you think there are already top guys working with FEDS that are still selling?
    I think it'd be pretty difficult to arrest 100,000 end users if they are aware and clean house and new PC's and stuff?
    not when your IP address and order info and whatever form of pmt you provided is handed over on a silver platter by that company...pretty easy actually. however i do agree that it seems a little outlandish

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    Its great living in a place where I dont have those concerns.
    Hate that Paranoid feeling of "shit who's outside"

    I pity you guys.........nah shlt - shame on you law breakers ha ha

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    That would suck, to just be sitting there one day and your door gets kicked in and your arrested for something you did months ago.....i would be like Damn.......

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    Deny, Deny, Deny..... 'I have no idea what your talking about'. 'I had a roommate back then, we had a falling out, don't know where that guy is, but he owes me money'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTliftVT View Post
    I work closely with lawyers on a daily basis and had the chance to converse with an prodominent lawyer (wont give names) who is known to defend for cases involving AAS etc for high profile bodybuilders/users etc. He informed me that the FEDs currently are in cooperation with much of Europe/China and that many companies are under a plea agreement in which they will operate as if nothing is wrong, but then hand over a list of those who purchased from the US to the FED's in order to get off a little lighter due to cooperation. He said that in the next couple of months there will be over 100,000 arrests (I am not exaggerating there).

    Now take this for what its worth. It did come from a lawyer and I am not trying to stir the pot and as of now its hearsay, but it was said.
    ive heard the same thing from my ex girl who works with lawyers...thats why im kinda sketched out. They lady on the phone said i was gonna get some paperwork very soon.??

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    so if i had anything.....get rid of it asap or what????

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    clear your stuff out of your house just to be safe

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    what about stuff form lion...is it a bad idea to order pct stuff from them?

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    Pretty sad that you can get *******, ****** ****, etc 50 times easier than steroids . Those plague society far worse than people trying to get buff. I will never understand some things....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrick View Post
    Didn't know where to post this...but today I got a phone call from a private number saying that my mail is under investigation. I have not ordered anything in a long time. They said ill be getting some paperwork shortly...they didn't say who they were or anything. I just listened...what the F?
    You should have said you are expecting a large order of vibrating cucumbers, and told the bitch to go **** herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbuffguy View Post
    u better give a homie like 20 bucks to use their adress .and cancell your Flex subscription

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTliftVT View Post
    I work closely with lawyers on a daily basis and had the chance to converse with an prodominent lawyer (wont give names) who is known to defend for cases involving AAS etc for high profile bodybuilders/users etc. He informed me that the FEDs currently are in cooperation with much of Europe/China and that many companies are under a plea agreement in which they will operate as if nothing is wrong, but then hand over a list of those who purchased from the US to the FED's in order to get off a little lighter due to cooperation. He said that in the next couple of months there will be over 100,000 arrests (I am not exaggerating there).

    Now take this for what its worth. It did come from a lawyer and I am not trying to stir the pot and as of now its hearsay, but it was said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39+1 View Post
    the feds, police, DEA dont call they knock
    not always. the postal inspector called me first then stopped over. i would play it safe and clean your house. a source you used was probably busted and your name and address was probably retrieved from his hard drive

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    even with order info no bust can take place without goods in hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    even with order info no bust can take place without goods in hand.
    thats good news....but yeah i cleaned house already. Now what about stuff from lion for pct and anti e's? Would it be safe to still order that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    even with order info no bust can take place without goods in hand.
    yes it can! It's unlikely but a paper trial, info on your hard drive, WU #s, tracking #s, plea deals and testimony can all be used. They can also make your life hell and go in to your place of work and seize the computer there, interview co-workers and friends for the sole purpose of harassment, the government is sleazy and the people in that field of drug enforcement like being arses. They only need PC(probable cause).

    Most likely(if it's not someone playing a sick joke on you) is your name and/info was found when someone else got busted. They may need witnesses and/or evidence agianst the suspect and they are researching client list. Don't do anything to "stand out" like mouthing off to them. If your someone they can embaress like a professional sports player, etc they will.

    In a seperate thread in the lounge, Carlos posted how 5 NYPD cops were suspended when they're names were found on a list of clients in a steroid bust.

    Steroids are in the spotlight now, there is a war going on, look at the healines, almost eceryday it's something new. We have reached the zenith of use, it's going to get harder and more risky.

    I am thinking, in the future, do not use your own computer when ordering, use a public computer, do not keep the WU form, and never stock pile. We will just have to be more vigilant in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    yes it can! It's unlikely but a paper trial, info on your hard drive, WU #s, tracking #s, plea deals and testimony can all be used. They can also make your life hell and go in to your place of work and seize the computer there, interview co-workers and friends for the sole purpose of harassment, the government is sleazy and the people in that field of drug enforcement like being arses. They only need PC(probable cause).

    Most likely(if it's not someone playing a sick joke on you) is your name and/info was found when someone else got busted. They may need witnesses and/or evidence agianst the suspect and they are researching client list. Don't do anything to "stand out" like mouthing off to them. If your someone they can embaress like a professional sports player, etc they will.

    In a seperate thread in the lounge, Carlos posted how 5 NYPD cops were suspended when they're names were found on a list of clients in a steroid bust.

    Steroids are in the spotlight now, there is a war going on, look at the healines, almost eceryday it's something new. We have reached the zenith of use, it's going to get harder and more risky.

    I am thinking, in the future, do not use your own computer when ordering, use a public computer, do not keep the WU form, and never stock pile. We will just have to be more vigilant in the future.
    well said....appreciate the info!

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    its a prank.... trust me! In any event deny, deny, deny, thats what i do with my girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    yes it can! It's unlikely but a paper trial, info on your hard drive, WU #s, tracking #s, plea deals and testimony can all be used. They can also make your life hell and go in to your place of work and seize the computer there, interview co-workers and friends for the sole purpose of harassment, the government is sleazy and the people in that field of drug enforcement like being arses. They only need PC(probable cause).

    Most likely(if it's not someone playing a sick joke on you) is your name and/info was found when someone else got busted. They may need witnesses and/or evidence agianst the suspect and they are researching client list. Don't do anything to "stand out" like mouthing off to them. If your someone they can embaress like a professional sports player, etc they will.

    In a seperate thread in the lounge, Carlos posted how 5 NYPD cops were suspended when they're names were found on a list of clients in a steroid bust.

    Steroids are in the spotlight now, there is a war going on, look at the healines, almost eceryday it's something new. We have reached the zenith of use, it's going to get harder and more risky.

    I am thinking, in the future, do not use your own computer when ordering, use a public computer, do not keep the WU form, and never stock pile. We will just have to be more vigilant in the future.
    only if someone testifies and since nobody knows who he is nobody can testify. i had something like this happen to me and even though they knew i was the one getting the shipments they couldnt touch me without gear in hand or a confession. of course i walked

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    only if someone testifies and since nobody knows who he is nobody can testify. i had something like this happen to me and even though they knew i was the one getting the shipments they couldnt touch me without gear in hand or a confession. of course i walked
    Well my asshole just unpuckered a little bit to that statement...
    Last edited by VTliftVT; 04-10-2008 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrick View Post
    Didn't know where to post this...but today I got a phone call from a private number saying that my mail is under investigation. I have not ordered anything in a long time. They said ill be getting some paperwork shortly...they didn't say who they were or anything. I just listened...what the F?
    The feds don't call buddy they knock at your door.Some body's probably fukin with you,I hope,good luck.

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